My FIL(Repug), who lives in palm beach fucking loves Hillary along with all his Breakers friends.

[goldcanyonaz]

He is one of those whitey tighteys who is not racist, considering I am his DIL. He tells me that the beat in Florida is awesome for Hillary, and that she is LOVED on the Island, and in West palm where he hangs out. I think that he, and many of his friends might have a crush on her, but we will take it!!

[DrDan]

1. you would prefer he would vote for mccain?

[goldcanyonaz]

2. That is who they will vote for minus Hillary.

[FrenchieCat]

5. Why?

[EFerrari]

7. Good luck. n/t

[GarbagemanLB]

8. Isn't it obvious? They hold a lot of similar positions on the issues..especially foreign policy.

[EFerrari]

16. Castro - bad, Iraqis - bad, black people - bad.

Yes, it is obvious. This isn't exactly the party base, is it?

lol

[goldcanyonaz]

9. I know you will not like this, but....

they like her Iraq vote, and Iran position.

[anigbrowl]

63. Personally, I don't think that is anything to celebrate

Of course I don't wish to lose the election in November, but neither do I think it would be good to win by going into the election on a platform that's pretty out of line with basic Democratic principles. I mean, if Hillary were the nominee I would not feel good watching her and McCain compete to see who's going to drop the biggest bomb on Iran.

[EFerrari]

66. Not to mention 8 of 10 Americans think we're going in the wrong direction.

But, GO! RICH WHITE GUYS!

lol

[Divine Discontent]

3. I know some evangelicals that think the Clintons are great

so I'm guessing they dislike Obama, but I cannot be sure without asking them, and I haven't had the chance, and well, I don't wanna go to their place of worship and be attacked for being 'a gay'.



pro-Obama and Anti-McSame items added each week!
www.cafepress.com/warisprofitable

[hfojvt]

4. you seem to be making the case that she is Republican-lite

Not a good sales pitch for me. My own little mini-survey was 4/4 with people who either hated or were scared of another Clinton Presidency.

[goldcanyonaz]

11. SO, when Repugs vote Obama it is good, when they want Hillary it is bad?

[libbygurl]

46. Whatever It Is, It's Okay If It's For/By Obama - thou needst to read the memo, goldcanyonaz.

Official declaration of double standards.

[zabet]

83. IOKIYO

:hi:

[rodeodance]

47. nah--it is Obama who is signing up all those Repug "dems for the Day"

Hillary (not BHO) has the progressive populist message in IN & NC re: high gas prices:

[EFerrari]

6. Now THERE is a selling point!

I guess you have to give it to those 12%ers! They are enthusiastic.

[goldcanyonaz]

10. So, you are saying that rich white folk don t count?

[EFerrari]

13. LOL! Wait -- are you saying that elitists back Hillary?

:rofl:

[newmajority]

12. West Palm Beach is Limpdick land.

Of course they love Hillary, now that Mush says it's OK to.

[goldcanyonaz]

18. aww, dem rich white honkeys gotta loves dem some Hillary, rights?

Grow up. They love her just the way she is.

[proud patriot]

84. 4/27

Alert goldcanyonaz - from AquarianRealm62 (General Discussion: Primaries)
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=5707290&mesg_id=5707778
Forum: General Discussion: Primaries
Subject: aww, dem rich white honkeys gotta loves dem some Hillary, rights?
Author: goldcanyonaz


Grow up. They love her just the way she is.


Reason:
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aww, dem rich white honkeys gotta loves dem some Hillary, rights?

[libbygurl]

100. Is that the rule now, to reveal alerters to alertees?

Odd, but just curious here, mod.

[Ronnie]

28. Palm Beach, West Palm Beach:

Two different places.

[cali]

14. My mother who lives on Sanibel Island

(ok, she doesn't really live there but she has a home there) loves Obama, but she's a real dem and she'll vote for the dem. She would never, ever vote for McCain.

[JoFerret]

15. ...makes a good balance with those suffering most

in this economy who also seem to favor Hillary.
Makes sense to me.

She is one determined person.

[goldcanyonaz]

17. Hillary is a fucking fighter! MY FIL loves that the most!

[EFerrari]

19. Can you remind us of when Hillary has won a "fight" that mattered

to the American people?

I mean, when she just didn't create chaos and antagonism for nothing? Thanks!

[goldcanyonaz]

20. She fought for healthcare, or who gives a fuck, right?

[EFerrari]

23. And she didn't win that, right?

[goldcanyonaz]

29. Umm, did she fucking fight, or not?

[EFerrari]

36. Are you avoiding the question?

When did this "fighter" achieve something for the American people? Surely such an experienced fighter must have something to show for the last 30 years?

[TahitiNut]

39. She "fought" like the New York Nationals "fought" the Harlem Globetrotters.

Apparently she rated a 6.0 on her dive. :eyes: And killed universal health care for TWO DECADES at least.

... but be sure to "don't ask and don't tell."

:puke:

[EFerrari]

40. DOMA, welfare deform, NAFTA. Those were the days, my friend.

:puke:

[libbygurl]

49. She didn't win it, but WHO ELSE proposed it at the time? Now everyone's on the health care bandwagon

None of the BO believers who put this forth as a 'bad' for Hill remember that Hillary was a PIONEER in just proposing it, then trying to push for health care all those years ago, when the odds against it were much greater than they are now, when such a forward-looking idea was attacked by all sides.

Hillary LEARNED from that experience. She's become more realistic about legislation since then, and now offers universal coverage health plan that has a better chance of becoming a reality.

[EFerrari]

55. The question was about how effective a fighter she was.

Right?

[libbygurl]

98. No, it was about if she ever fought for anything.

[newmajority]

24. 1993. That was quite a while ago

What has she done as an actual elected official?

[goldcanyonaz]

32. She fought for us all back then, what a fricking bitch, huh?

[ChimpersMcSmirkers]

87. And she stopped fighting after she lost the first battle...losing the war for 16 years

[hfojvt]

76. Why aren't you giving her credit for SCHIP?

Or peace in Ireland. You hugh Hillary Hater. :cry:

[cali]

21. except she's a remarkably stupid fighter

lost the health care fight and she's losing the primaries. you need to fight smart.

[libbygurl]

52. Yeah, lost health care fight because she was not as knowledgeable about

politics and legislation then. 'Cause it's so bad that she DARED to propose that plan ALL THOSE YEARS AGO. How stupid is that.

As for 'the primaries'? She's winning the genuine primaries, with Democrats actually choosing the Dem candidate. BO 'fights smart' in the caucuses, especially, by registering Repubs and Indies as 'Dems-for-a-day', then giving them forms to register back as a GOP / Indy.

That's real smart. Real dishonest tactics just to get votes to win the Dem nom.

And more about 'fighting smart' - if BO can't handle debates effectively and complains about the moderators - is that 'fighting smart', too? Will he be able to choose which issues, problems he wants to deal with as president as well? You have to know how to handle whatever comes your way, and the questions in the debates - whatever they are - test the candidates' ability to do that.

So why is he declining Hill's invite to debate without moderators - if he complained about the moderators the last time?

And don't give me the usual arguments of 'too many debates already' (only four between just the two of them), 'Hill wants more free air time' (he'll get air time, too), blah, blah.

[EFerrari]

56. It is stupid to go into an important battle with nothing but your ego.

That's pretty much the definition of stupid.

[libbygurl]

99. Yeah, only her ego pushed her to fight for UNIVERSAL health care. Such an awful ego.

Your posts define 'stupid', actually.

[notfullofit]

22. She's got guts,

determination and a can-do attitude.

[EFerrari]

27. So do drunk drivers. n/t

[cyndensco]

31. lol

[EFerrari]

37. Welcome to DU, cyndensco.

:)

[AquarianRealm62]

35. thanks..made me spray my water

[EFerrari]

38. Welcome to DU.

:)

[AquarianRealm62]

45. Thank You!!!!!!!!

[notfullofit]

41. That was not a very nice comparison to make of a fellow dem. nt

[EFerrari]

42. Sometimes the truth isn't nice. n/t

[libbygurl]

53. Are you under the influence yourself, making such non-sequitur comments?

[EFerrari]

54. Have you never known a drunk driver?

They can do anything. :)

[libbygurl]

97. You are speaking nonsense in relation to the previous post. No more wasting time here. Bye.

[anigbrowl]

68. Buy him a Rock 'em, Sock 'em set then

http://bp3.blogger.com/_QtXzWGRwoss/Rr6DFuPFAsI/AAAAAAAAAI8/191HyaRBJD4/s1600-h/rock+em+sock+em.jpg

[cali]

26. say what?

I live in a place where unemployment is close to 8% and it's 99% white. The Northeast Kingdom went for Obama- decisively. And are you saying that those living in West Palm are all poor folks?

[Ronnie]

30. Palm Beach, West Palm Beach:

Two different places. I taught in an inner city school in West Palm Beach for many years. Believe me, poverty is not unknown there.

[JoFerret]

33. Balance. The word balance.

And demographics.

[goldcanyonaz]

34. Umm, these are the fuckers living in 5+ million $ mansions.

[cali]

79. who are you talking about?

[dkf]

25. Does he perhaps want to nuke Iran?

[rodeodance]

57. Hillary does not want to nuke Iran. grow up.

[madfloridian]

43. OK, I will ask. What's "whitey tightey"??

I will be eagerly awaiting the answer.

[newmajority]

44. Is that anything like tighty whiteys?

:shrug:

[madfloridian]

51. Me, too...

:shrug:

I want to know if I am one of those.

[goldcanyonaz]

50. I am black, so it means really, really white.

[jenmito]

48. My parents live in WPB and love OBAMA. They're pretty-well-known dancers/performers and

are going to offer to "dance (and sing/play piano)" for Obama. They're both around 70. They're VERY popular with ALL ages-from young kids to people in their 80s. My father wears a "Typical White Person for Obama" t-shirt and people love it or ask him about it if they don't get it. If/when FL is important again, probably in the GE, they WILL be advertising for Obama, whether Obama knows about it or not.

[EFerrari]

59. That's really cool, Jen.

lol

[jenmito]

90. Thanks, sfexpat!

They've opened for Connie Francis, Bobby Rydell, Peter Lemongello, Mitzi Gaynor, Marty Allen, and Pat Cooper, among others. :hi:

[Bensthename]

58. My friends mom's uncle's sister's brother in law's work out partner voted Obama I heard..

Kudos to him

[goldcanyonaz]

60. But, my FIL is richer than all of them!

[Bensthename]

62. I imagine. Ive been through the area. Some very expensive property..

[SoFlaJet]

61. yea Palm Beach-Rush Limbaugh's neighborhood

no big surprise there. Over here on the other side of the drink in Lake Worth we are all for Obama

[goldcanyonaz]

64. Umm, they like her there, so youre argument fails. HELLO!!

[EFerrari]

65. I admire the way you keep advancing Hillary's working class argument.

:rofl:

[goldcanyonaz]

67. So, rich folk can not like her too?

[EFerrari]

69. You're right. No matter how much she says that the "working class"

is behind her, when we really look, it's rich people who fund her and encourage her losing campaign.

That's pretty much how you lose a race in this country.

[goldcanyonaz]

70. I am working class, my family just happens to be rich as fuck, does that make my vote less?

[EFerrari]

71. You should ask Hillary, shouldn't you?

Will she be defending workers against the greed of the elite or will she keep taking money from the elite or -- what is her plan?

[goldcanyonaz]

72. Workers are voting for her. Obama? Not so much, even with the Unions backing him, why is that?

[EFerrari]

73. And, again, you dodge the question. Cool. Enjoy it while it lasts. n/t

[goldcanyonaz]

74. Gotta quick question for you. What has Obama ever done for us black folk?

[EFerrari]

75. Here you go:

http://www.thenation.com/doc/20070416/moberg

[goldcanyonaz]

77. Ha ha, nice try. While in the Senate?

[EFerrari]

78. You really don't get it, do you?

You've a choice between someone with roots in the community and someone who does everything she can to avoid those roots.

Good luck with that.

[goldcanyonaz]

82. Roots? to what community?

[goldcanyonaz]

80. oo

[GoldieAZ49]

86. Weak at best, shows he used it as a political platform

from your link:
After a transient youth and an earnest search for identity, Obama also found a home--a community with which he continued relationships, a church and a political identity. He honed his talent for listening, learned pragmatic strategy, practiced bringing varied people together and developed a faith in ordinary citizens that still influences his campaign message. He discovered the importance of personal storytelling in politics (and wrote short stories that refined his style).

...

--Obama and DCP protected community interests regarding landfills and helped win employment training services, playgrounds, after-school programs, school reforms and other public amenities.

One day a resident at Altgeld Gardens, a geographically isolated public housing project surrounded by waste sites, brought a notice about planned removal of asbestos from the project manager's office. Obama organized the community to find out if there was asbestos in their apartments. They persisted as officials lied and delayed, then took a bus--with far fewer people than Obama had anticipated--to challenge authorities downtown. Ultimately, the city was forced to test all the apartments and eventually begin cleaning them up.

...

But Obama grew restless and eventually went to Harvard Law School. "He said you can only go so far in organizing. You help people get some solutions, but it's never as big as wiping away problems," says Michael Evans, a DCP organizer after Obama left. "It wasn't end-all. He wanted to be part of the end-all, to get things done." But Obama kept his ties to DCP and worked out of its office when he ran a drive that registered 150,000 new voters in 1992 and became the springboard for his own grassroots campaign for Illinois State Senate.

[Zhade]

81. I grew up in Florida. Considering its conservative nature, I'm not surprised they like her.

NT!

[NJSecularist]

95. Since when is Palm Beach County conservative?

It's one of our biggest Democratic strongholds in the country.

[goldcanyonaz]

85. MY FIL ROCKS!!!

[Leftist Agitator]

88. Oy, the Breakers.

I worked streaming audio for a Bear Stearns investors conference held at the Breakers a few years back.

I have never felt more uncomfortable in a place in my entire life. Those people live in such luxury that they might as well be a different species than we lowly peons. My friend Jose, who was working the streaming audio with me, was repeatedly asked demeaning questions by guests who assumed that he was "the help" based on nothing more than his brown skin. For crying out loud, he was wearing a shirt and tie, so I can't think of any other reason why they'd assume that he would know what time a particular restaurant in the hotel closed.

:eyes:

Oh, and I especially love how when Palm Beach was smacked down by a court for trying to make their city a "private enclave", the rich assholes got their way by eliminating all of the public parking in the city. Pretentious fucks...

:mad:

[goldcanyonaz]

89. Yeah, they are fuckers, but those fuckers LOVE HILLARY!!!

[spooky3]

92. it sounds as if finally, you've come across some rational investors

who aren't going to shoot themselves in the foot by supporting Republicans if we nominate Clinton. Most investors did much better during the Clinton years than they have since then. The Clinton years were good for a lot of people. There is also evidence that over the past 60 years or so, the stock market did better during Dem. admins. in general.

[goldcanyonaz]

93. You are absolutely right!! Have not seen you in a while spooky, nice to see you!

[spooky3]

94. hi!

[Leftist Agitator]

96. Ugh, how can you deal with those rich assholes?

I've heard of marrying into money, but that kind of money is, um, stratospheric.

I'm actually pleasantly surprised that the potential oligarchs support a Democrat. It would be a lot better if they were behind Obama, but at least they aren't championing McSame, I suppose.

[sueragingroz]

91. Ke 7 R