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GarbagemanLB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-27-08 08:22 PM
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Do you want to know why it is a GOOD thing Wright is out in public?
Those 30-second loops won't be going away. Shipping him off to some other country until November will only help those who want to smear Wright (and by association, Obama).

Putting Wright himself out there is a powerful counter to those sound-bytes. More importantly, as we are seeing, it is a powerful way to truly confront the issues of race in this country. Wright knew he would be on national television, and he made sure his speech was a powerful one. He didn't back down, like some would expect. He challenged the media and us as a nation to look within ourselves, beyond those sound-bytes that will not be going away.

He needed to do this. Those clips won't be going away, even if Wright is put under house-arrest for the next 7 months.


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Hoof Hearted Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-27-08 08:23 PM
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1. I think it's fantastic. Run it all night and all day tomorrow too.
I couldn't be any happier.
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ClassWarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 12:36 AM
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33. Why?
NGU.


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krawhitham Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 01:00 AM
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36. Because that is all the Hillbot's have
The lose on all real issues
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tekisui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-27-08 08:23 PM
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2. He becomes human.
And that is exactly what Clinton and the GOP were hoping to prevent.
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MadMaddie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-27-08 08:25 PM
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4. That's exactly it isn't it. As long as they could portray him as
carciture they could destroy him. Now that this speech is out there, an inclusive speech....

Bravo!! Bravo!!
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psychopomp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-27-08 08:28 PM
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7. That's it in a nutshell
Furthermore, I believe that a Barack Obama candidacy will bring out these issues of race, class and national identity in one way or another; I am confident that we will make it through as a nation in one piece.
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-27-08 08:48 PM
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15. At a bird's-eye-view, in a fashion similar to tv humanizing black folks in the Civil Rights battles
When you see people being tossed around by firehoses, etc., it's very different from just hearing distorted 4th-generation anecdotes.
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MadMaddie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-27-08 08:24 PM
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3. Absolutely!!
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-27-08 08:27 PM
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5. CNN is screwed up on my satellite
The only channel that isn't coming in right.

:shrug:
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depakid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-27-08 08:28 PM
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6. I agree with you on that
though it comes with some risk- the trouble with most Democrats the past 15 years or so is that they've become FAR too risk averse, for fear of "offending" someone -particularly the far right.
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-27-08 08:44 PM
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11. Which is a real shame in it's own right....that we should be in fear
of offending those who have beaten on us hard for so long. Democrats are like an abused wife, in that sense. We are to kiss their hem, while they kick our ass.
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ClassWarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 12:42 AM
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35. Well, the Democratic Party establishment, at least. As for this Democrat...
...I refuse to be an abused wife!

B-)

NGU.


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CatsDogsBabies Donating Member (652 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-27-08 08:41 PM
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8. It is surprising to me that people think
Wright will hurt Obama in the GE. I read something like this earlier. With all the media attention he is getting, he will become a much tamer character to most Americans. It is quite clear that some people get off on hearing inflammatory 30 second clips over and over and over and over and over and over again, but most rational people are willing to look further once all the hype settles. Rev. Wright is on his way into the mainstream. Has anyone coined a new term yet, like being "wrighted" though I don't know exactly what the term would mean???
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chill_wind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-27-08 09:01 PM
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19. That's actually pretty good! Getting "wrighted" after being grieviously wronged.
I like it! :-)
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doc03 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-27-08 08:41 PM
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9. It's great the more we see of him the better
for Hillary.
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Hoof Hearted Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-27-08 08:48 PM
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14. Amen.
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The Doctor. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-27-08 08:59 PM
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18. Yeah... See post 17.
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rufus dog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 12:07 AM
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30. All I can say is you and I think different
Why do you think this is good for Hillary?
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The Doctor. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-27-08 08:59 PM
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17. Such ignorance.
You would love to revel in the out of context, 10 second sound bytes that portray a man you can associate Obama a a 'nutcase'. Unfortunately for Clinton, he has far too much integrity and courage to let the Right-Wing style smears you are so proud of go unanswered.

It is simply disgraceful that DUers, any DUers, will so easily fall for the very same unmitigated bullshit that has been heaped on Democrats by the RW Machine these last many years simply because of their zealotry for Clinton.

It's pathetic and transparent... sad you can't see that.
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leftofcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-27-08 09:15 PM
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22. Yep. I think he should go on more news shows.
Everytime he shows up somewhere, another O supporter gets buyers remorse.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-27-08 08:43 PM
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10. No one can watch this man and continue to see the cartoon.
:)
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-27-08 08:45 PM
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12. and those that do don't like anything Black anyways......
and considering that Obama is certainly at least 1/2 Black, they'd have a problem pulling the lever for him anyways.....cause an uncle Tom, he ain't.
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IsItJustMe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-27-08 09:59 PM
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25. Nope, he don't kiss their ass and they don't like it.
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-27-08 08:46 PM
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13. your assessment is absolutely right on n/t
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TheDoorbellRang Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-27-08 08:55 PM
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16. Absolutely. When I heard the talking heads and some here crying
"Oh, no! Keep him hidden away!" I thought that was BS. I knew just from watching the etended sermons on youtube that this guy was the real deal and no hatemonger. The ones who wanted him to stay hidden away just wanted the scary black preacher to stay in everyone's head. I say the more everyone sees of the REAL man, the better off he will be and Obama will be and America will be.
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panAmerican Donating Member (864 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-27-08 09:01 PM
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20. Obama gaining ground among Indians as well
I would say most were pro-Clinton initially, but upon seeing her devolving into this warrior-princess wannabe, Obama is being well-received.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-27-08 09:01 PM
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21. I never doubted this was a good thing, especially Bill Moyers leading
the charge, despite what the m$m posited on the damage prior to the interview. I did see it, with my DH who is far less political than I am, and we both thought he was great.

Then tonight, the NAACP speech, sealed the deal. Touch this man, a man trying to educate the people, not divide them. I loved Reverend Wright's speech and him.
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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-27-08 09:22 PM
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23. Food and gas at all time highs, people dying in Iraq daily, and the big news is some reverend?
Lovely. If I were a Republican that is.

Don
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Beregond2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-27-08 09:37 PM
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24. No, I don't agree.
Because the issues Wright has raised have everything to do with high gas prices, the war in Iraq, etc. He is talking about how the injustice of imperialism eventually turns around and bites it's perpetrators. If he makes people think a little more deeply about these issues, that is all to the good.
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IsItJustMe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-27-08 10:03 PM
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27. To me, his message is universal and this is, we are all different, but deep down, we are all the
same.
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butterfly77 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-27-08 10:02 PM
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26. I look over at fox and they are trying to...
say this is bad which we know it isn't. He is taking away their power and it won't go away because they will continue to bring it up. I noticed that Slannity is talking about the weatherunderground non-issue they don't know what to do and how they will spin it. No he is not going away and I am glad he isn't.Not this time, Not this time....
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jefferson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-27-08 10:12 PM
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28. Conservative bozo blogger Byron York might be seeing some writing on the wall - the worm turning...
And I quote ---

"But here's a question: Is there any imaginable set of circumstances in which all this exposure of Rev. Wright — giving us that much-discussed "context" we've often heard about — is a good thing for Barack Obama?"

http://corner.nationalreview.com/
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GoldieAZ49 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-27-08 11:51 PM
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29. and his mellow sensible talk is seen for what it is: damage control
there is no 'positive spin' to put on his condemnation of the USA. play them in whole or in part, forwards or backwards or upside down, doesn't change them
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GarbagemanLB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 12:28 AM
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31. It never ceases to amaze me seeing so-called progressives and liberals such as yourself feign
outrage over something that is really at the core of the progressive movement: CALLING OUT our country when it has done wrong, and not walking in LOCK STEP BEHIND IT like the repukes.


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libnnc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 12:38 AM
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34. these folks are falling apart before our eyes
interesting to watch, actually.

:popcorn:


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DeepModem Mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 12:31 AM
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32. I hope you're right. We'll see how this plays out tomorrow...
and in the coming days. I hope Pastor Wright isn't further damaging Obama. (In a perfect world, no worry, but ours is not a perfect world, or a perfect country, or a DU-like country.)
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 02:51 AM
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38. He'll be at the National Press Club, cspan 2, at 9 am Eastern. n/t
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DeepModem Mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 03:19 AM
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39. Thanks -- that should be a fascinating appearance (and I didn't know it was first thing in the a.m.)
n/t
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quantass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 02:44 AM
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37. NAIL ON THE HEAD...That is precisely why Wright should be everywhere!
Hi speech tonite was INCREDIBLE!
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goletian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 03:20 AM
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40. they thought it was going to take obama out in the dem primaries.
Edited on Mon Apr-28-08 03:21 AM by goletian
they fucked up. they shouldve waited till the general. since they played this weak card so early, people are going to be a) desensitized to him because of the issue being way overdone and b) people are going to realize hes not a bad guy after all. just the other day, i saw colmes explaining to hannity that wrights comments were actually taken out of context, and that he was actually quoting someone else and elaborating on comments from a previous fox guest when he said the "chickens roost" comment. too little too early.
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