TYT: Hillary's Popular Vote Argument Is Nonsense (Must See)

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Cenk gives plenty of info on how to counter the nonsense.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=385x124553




http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pm5ElX9sOp4
Why can't Clinton close the deal?
by kos
Thu Apr 24, 2008 at 10:28:33 AM PDT
John Cole:

If Barack is such a bad candidate, and he is so unelectable, and it is such a bad idea to have him as the Democratic nominee, why can’t Hillary beat him?

Why is she behind him in every conceivable metric? Why is she behind in pledged delegates? Why is she behind in the popular vote (and don’t insult my intelligence by trying to pass that sheer nonsense the morons at certain pro-Clinton blogs are lapping up)? Why are super delegates flocking to Obama, while Hillary has picked up only a handful in the past few months. Why has she won fewer states? Why is she trumpeting her narrow delegate pickup in PA, when it is less than the number of net delegates Obama picked up in a variety of other states? Why is she behind in fund raising? Why was she unable to turn her double digit lead a year ago into any actual primary wins? Why, with her starting financial advantage and name recognition, was she held to a tie on Super Tuesday?

Why to those questions and a hundred more like them. If your candidate is so much better, why is Obama kicking her ass? Why?

Because IF Obama wasn't black, and IF millions of people weren't supporting him, and IF he didn't raise all that money, and IF his campaign hadn't been run better than hers, and IF Red states hadn't had the gall to vote, and IF those damn activists didn't disagree with her on war in Iraq and nuking Iran, and IF MoveOn wasn't so effective, and IF latte sippers didn't vote, and IF we had the same system as Republicans, and IF the news networks weren't more like Fox News, and IF small states that don't matter didn't count, and IF Keith Olbermann didn't have it out for her, and IF Pennsylvania was the only state that mattered -- then Clinton would be the nominee.

You know, simple answers to simple questions.
http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2008/4/24/132833/040/170/502238



Clinton Campaign Logic: Who Can't Win in November
by DHinMI
Thu Apr 24, 2008 at 08:17:55 AM PDT
Barack Obama can't win, because he couldn't beat Hillary Clinton among older voters, and we can't win in November if we don't win older voters.

Barack Obama can't win, because he couldn't beat Hillary Clinton among white working class voters, and we can't win in November if we don't win white working class voters.

Barack Obama can't win, because he didn't win the primaries in California and New York and Pennsylvania, and Democrats can't win if they can't win those big states in a general election.

Barack Obama can't win, because any state or demographic group that went with Hillary Clinton didn't really prefer Clinton, they opposed Barack Obama. Therefore, all Democratic primary voters who didn't vote for Obama, like single women and members of AFSCME, are possible or maybe even likely McCain voters in November.

Hillary Clinton can't win, because she couldn't beat Barack Obama among younger voters.

Hillary Clinton can't win, because she couldn't beat Barack Obama among black voters.

Hillary Clinton can't win, because she didn't win the primaries in Illinois and Maryland and Connecticut, and Democrats can't win if they can't win those solidly Democratic states in a general election.

Hillary Clinton can't win, because any state or demographic group that went with Barack Obama didn't simply prefer Obama, they opposed Clinton. Therefore, all Democratic primary voters who didn't vote for Clinton, like people for whom the Iraq war is the most important issue or members of SEIU, are possible or maybe even likely McCain voters in November.

And while we're at it, we should point out that John McCain can't win, because he couldn't beat Mike Huckabee among conservative evangelical Christian voters, and they can't win in November if they don't win conservative evangelical Christian voters.

John McCain can't win, because he couldn't beat Mitt Romney among Mormon voters, and they can't win in November if they don't win Mormon voters.

John McCain can't win, because he didn't win the primaries in Georgia and Kansas and Utah, and Republicans can't win if they can't win those heavily Republican states in a general election.

John McCain can't win, because any state or demographic group that went with Mike Huckabee or Mitt Romney didn't really prefer Huckabee or Romney, they opposed John McCain. Therefore, all Republican primary voters who didn't vote for McCain, are possible or maybe even likely...

Wait, who the heck would they vote for?

Gee, if you follow through on the logic of the Clinton campaign, nobody will win in November.

Gosh, I guess that means that if Nancy Pelosi doesn't want to be president, Senate President Pro Tempore Robert Byrd will be our next president!

http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2008/4/24/11176/8913/935/502482