I hope the Obama campaign didn't get Wright to go on this media blitz

[JCMach1]

If they did, it was a very bad strategy... It's everywhere (in a negative way) in the MSM today.

Please, don't consider this a judgment of Wright. That's not what I mean at all.

The MSM is just spinning it in a particular fashion and it's not good for someone who is MOST likely to be the nominee of the party.

Has there been any comment on this by the Obama campaign?

Was this their idea?


Things are really bad today.

[rucky]

1. Shows how fucked up media and politics are.

He could've delivered the Sermon on the Mount and would've been clobbered.

[JCMach1]

4. that's not my point... was it Wright? or the campaign? who thought

dealing directly with the MSM would be a cunning plan...

[rucky]

8. maybe not your point

but the point that should be addressed if we ever want to win one on our terms.

[JuniperLea]

13. That's politics

Same goes for DU. The Obama camp will pile all over Hillary, and the Hillary camp will pile all over Obama. Takes tough skin to be in this business.

Wright does Obama no good by making these appearances... only serves to rile up the Hillary folk against him... and as for those of us who have no dog in this race, there's some interesting talk if you look for it. I for one like Wright a whole lot more than I do Obama.

[rucky]

16. well, since you put it that way...

give this thread a little love for me:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x5717779

[JuniperLea]

27. You got it, Dude!

I never thought we'd be agreeing... :) Happy to say, we are.

[noel711]

2. Do you really think Obama runs Wright and his church?

Take a look at Wright... does he allow a 'politician'
to tell him what to do and what to say?

[JCMach1]

5. Is Wright a lose cannon then relative to the campaign?

[EFerrari]

6. No. He was very careful in his comments.

Don't let the whore media freak you out. That's all they're trying to do. If it weren't Wright, it would be something else. They needed a story.

[JuniperLea]

22. I like Wright

More than I do Obama, actually. People are going to read far too much into all this, and it's for this reason I think Wright should have zipped it. Wright is so right! I've been saying it here for years... MLK's image has been sterilized and most people really don't remember all the good work he did for the poor and the weak, they chose to remember only the tip of the iceberg and I think that sucks out loud. Wright is also right about Israel/Palestine, and I whole-heartedly agree with his TRUE CHRISTIAN beliefs in this regard, which are polar opposite of Obama's. This is only a very small part of my thoughts on this man, but I encourage everyone to watch the repeats of his interview with Moyers. Stunning and powerful, and very, very Christ-like. I love a man who walks the talk, they are so few and so precious! I would probably step outside my self-imposed Agnostic shroud if I were to ever hear him preach in person.

Wright is an awesome man. He makes Obama look so-so by comparison.

[EFerrari]

30. Wright is the reason I'm voting for Obama.

:)

[JuniperLea]

35. Unlike a lot of Obama supporters here...

You must be paying attention! Good for you!

I voted for Edwards on super Tuesday... I'll vote for a Democrat in the GE... no matter who that is.

[scheming daemons]

10. Rev Wright has no role in the campaign whatsoever... Obama can no more "control" him than....

he can control any free man from saying what he wants to say.

[JuniperLea]

25. As long as he keeps talking, he will be part of the campaign

Whether Obama likes it or not. The barn door has been left open and the horse has already galloped off... there's no putting him back in the barn now. Too late.

I really like Wright, but if I were Obama, I'd tell him to keep it zipped.

[BlooInBloo]

11. Way to leap for the jackass fuckwit alternative, as if that's the only remaining option.

[JCMach1]

17. Ummm bite me... It's a legitimate question

Wright is damaging the candidate...

[David Dunham]

3. I bet Obama's people did not do it. Rev Wright could cost him the nomination

[ProSense]

9. Oh BS on both counts. I hope Wright shows up on every TV station in every living room.

The American people need to be exposed to truth, which they certainly don't get from the constant media spinning.

[fed_up_mother]

31. The American people FIRST need to vote out the thugs in Washington

Unfortunately, Wright could make that less likely.

Why? Hell, yeah, we still have racism in this country.

Hell, yeah, we have folks who aren't really racists but are stuck on stupid.

I still think the more appropriate time for this discussion is after Obama is PRESIDENT.

[ProSense]

36. "Unfortunately, Wright could make that less likely." Again, BS! n/t

[fed_up_mother]

43. Don't believe there's racism, huh?

:sarcasm:

People are racists to varying degrees - hopefully lesser degrees, but it's still there. Probably a lot of folks voting for Obama who still harbor ingrained racial thoughts or stereotypes even though they don't realize it. Someone like Wright could easily turn some of them away, imo.

I'm an Obama supporter. I'd like him to WIN - not have to deal with Wright's statements.

The time to deal with that is after he's WON.

[DearAbby]

7. What does Obama have to do with the Media

covering a NAACP speech, and when was the last time they did this? Obama has that much power over the Media?

[JCMach1]

14. Wright could have bowed out of this... knowing what's at stake

:(

[ShortnFiery]

12. Another inane theory? Now tie it into the supposition that Rev. Wright's a CIA operative?

:crazy: :tinfoilhat:

[Armstead]

15. I'm sure they didn't -- I'm guessing there's a lot of ....

cursing and kicking of furniture at Obama HQ today.

[JCMach1]

18. Time to get out in front of all this???

:(

[featherman]

19. NYT: Obama campaign "furious" over Wright PR tour

"Our colleague Jeff Zeleny tells us that associates of Mr. Obama said privately that his campaign was furious at Mr. Wright’s decision to step forward so publicly, but that they were unable to do anything to control this. They added, however, that the pastor’s actions prove that he and Mr. Obama are not that close, otherwise why would Mr. Wright do this now?"

http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/04/28/rev-wright-defends-church-blasts-media/

[JCMach1]

21. Thank you... and they should be furious

[bevoette]

26. i think that is actually going to be the eventual 'verdict'...

seriously...watching the feeding frenzy this morning, i was thinking two things along these lines: 1) this might actually just garner some sympathy for Obama, as most people (as reflected even here) will probably come away thinking "daaaamn, that guy is seriously trying to fuck up Obama's chances!" and 2) "wow...if Wright's willing to do this to Obama, i guess they really AREN'T that close!"

[2rth2pwr]

20. Yesterday there was a slew of OP's here that were celebrating Wright's PR blitz.

""He is brilliant! Now every one will see the real Wright! I hate religion but I would join his church!""

What happened from then to now, to cause such a change?

[JCMach1]

23. Honestly, doesn't matter what anyone says when the media spins it in a particular way

and they are spinning it BAD BAD BAD!

[madfloridian]

29. Sorry JC it damn well better matter.

.

[JCMach1]

34. It's a media blind alley at this point... the narrative on Wright/Obama has been told

So, should Obama defend Wright? that would just confirm the negative narrative

Should Obama throw Wright under the bus? he seems to have rejected that option

Obama is truly stuck on this issue...



It has the exact same FORM as the Swiftboat attack on Kerry. Kerry didn't respond strongly for the exact same reasons.

As I know you are aware, all of this story originated with FOX... FOX is controlling the news agenda in the election cycle at this point and the rest are following the lead.

The media is the enemy in this fight... along with McCain et al.

[madfloridian]

38. Sorry we must disagree.

.

[Innocent Smith]

24. Obama is not stupid

He knows how much Wright is hurting him and I'd bet that right now (wright now! :)) he and his staff are very unhappy.

[madfloridian]

28. Read this. Do NOT blame Obama.

http://journals.democraticunderground.com/madfloridian/2039

[JCMach1]

32. Let's place the blame where it is due... not Obama, for sure

but the MSM/ Check
Rev. Wright/ Check (He has nothing to gain by this media push...)

[madfloridian]

33. You don't blame Hillary's campaign? Did you read the words I posted?

http://journals.democraticunderground.com/madfloridian/2039

Did you see what Wasserman Schultz said, and McAuliffe and Ickes?

She used a man of God to divide the party. Read their words.

[JCMach1]

37. It's hardball and you know it... there is a full-court press on all the delegates right now

Donna Brazile, yesterday, was back onto the 'There Will be Blood' metaphor to scare Super Delegates.

Regardless of which side you are for, the SD's are majorly getting hammered from ALL sides at this point.


Hillary, barring a meltdown, most likely will not be the nominee. However, when the media metastasizes a story the way it is at the moment the Obama campaign takes a step towards that melt down.

At this point, I am not willing to say that's a good thing.

[madfloridian]

39. Do you know who started the blood on the floor?

If you don't tell me...I do.

For you to even insinuate this is Obama's fault, is shocking to me.

[JCMach1]

41. It's the surrogate game... everyone plays it to get their message out

And, of course, Hillary is doing the SAME THING.

And the reality is, the Wright thing IS an issue because FOX news et al says it IS. That's the disgusting reality of it... frankly it makes me want to :puke:

[madfloridian]

40. Okay, I am going to look up old stuff about Bill's oval office blow job.

That must be fair game now....like a pastor is fair game.

I had arguments with family over that...today I would not stand up for him.

[JCMach1]

42. Obama was right with his 'crazy uncle' metaphor- I buy that

Of course! you can't control what everyone says.

However, when you are running for office, you might ask uncle to stay in the house most of the time... at least until after the election.

:(

[Beregond2]

44. I sometimes wonder

what planet the people on this board live on. I have read two newspapers this morning and watched two news shows. Not a mention of Wright anywhere.

Wright is not on a "blitz." He made one appearance on Moyers, and did one speech, no doubt booked months in advance, for the NAACP. What is he supposed to do, go into hiding while the MSM defames him and his church?

[JCMach1]

45. He was all over FOX, MSNBC, CNN, BBC, AL Jazeera this morning