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DearAbby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 12:27 PM
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IT'S THE MEDIA STUPID
When was the last fucking time the Media covered a NAACP Speech? They created this Wright Mess, and they are still doing it. Have they ever covered a HAGEE SPEECH? I am sure he gives them.

They are the ones bringing this attention to Wright, they created the Boogerman presona of Wright, Now they are fleshing it in. Why are you falling for it...and how is it Obama's fault?
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featherman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 12:29 PM
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1. A perfect storm to derail the Obama nomination: the MSM unites with
the RW smear machine, the Clinton campaign, the RNC, and the McCain campaign. This is a full on onslaught.
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 12:32 PM
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2. Just IMAGINE how much better this would be, if Clinton hadn't hopped on board.
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DearAbby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 12:32 PM
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4. They are scared to death of this movement
and Obama. Think about it.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 12:33 PM
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6. The fascists didn't buy control of broadcast media in the 80s and 90s to PROTECT democracy
Edited on Mon Apr-28-08 12:34 PM by blm
and truthseekers, did it?

Does anyone think House of Saud and House of Bush who control CNN are going to tell the truth about ANY open government Democrat like Obama?
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MNDemNY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 12:32 PM
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3. Wright, himself is fueling the furnace.
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DearAbby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 12:41 PM
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11. How?
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MNDemNY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 12:43 PM
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12. His mere presence on the scene, only makes his impact that much greater.
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DearAbby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 12:48 PM
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13. Why hell MNDemNY
They should have kept that uppity n***** in chains in the cellar.

He probably had that speech planned for months, long before this mess was created. What does the Obama Campaign have to do with the speaking engagements of a Former Black Minister?

Why should they muzzle Wright like a rabid dog? What has he said that was wrong. Did he foam at the mouth last night?

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MNDemNY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 12:50 PM
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15. Now your just being an asshole......
Any one that does not support your "chosen one" must be a racist. Fuck you and the whore you rode in on.
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DearAbby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 01:01 PM
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20. I am being an Asshole?
WRIGHT ISNT RUNNING FOR PRESIDENT! Obama being a Black man has to go through a "SPECIAL" set of rules to have the "SEPERATE BUT EQUAL" opportunity to become President.

Gives the appearance of fairness, but it isnt.

When are we going to hear a speech and see the spin when Hagee talks? Or how about Hillary's Preacher? Are we going to make the WHITE candidates stand up to the same set of rules?
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MNDemNY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 01:06 PM
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22. "Fairness" doesn't play-in, it's all about perception of the masses.
You can argue "fairness, and the fact that Wright speaks the truth", but that matters, not.
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Uncle Joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 01:30 PM
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26. If fairness and truth matter not to those that shape the perception of the masses,
this should tell you where the real problem lies and it's not with Wright, it's the corporate media.

If fairness and truth matter not to the corporate media, it would've made absolutely no difference whether Wright tried to set the record straight with the Moyers interview as to who he was. The corporate media would never have let up for so long as Obama was in the race.

If we just roll over and let the corporate media wage character assassination by taking snippets out of context, using the sin of omission, obfuscating statements or ignoring the whole truth, the last almost eight years will only be a sip of what is to come from a long bitter drink.

The American People deserve the best leadership and for too long the corporate media; as most people's trusted source of information has done their best to hide or demean quality leadership, while enabling the truly corrupt and incompetent to power all to suit their own selfish narrow agenda.
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MNDemNY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 01:32 PM
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28. You are correct, however, this is the hand we must play.
At this point, arguing the nuance gets us nowhere.
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Uncle Joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 01:39 PM
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30. I couldn't disagree more, if you want to use poker semantics
and your playing five card draw and the dealer only gives you four cards, are you going to play that hand or are you going to argue nuance? If you accept the former, don't bet the house on it.
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MNDemNY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 01:41 PM
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31. But the voting "masses" don't give a rat's ass that you have only four cards.
The vast majority will only see the straight -flush in your opponents hand.
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Uncle Joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 01:46 PM
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32. The voting masses don't know they only have four cards.
Edited on Mon Apr-28-08 01:49 PM by Uncle Joe
Because the corporate media; or dealer doesn't tell them, and that's precisely why we must or as apparently some here believe just accept a crooked dealer and hope things work out for the better.

I can guarandamntee you, they won't.

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MNDemNY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 01:53 PM
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35. And you are going to change this before November, how?
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Uncle Joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 02:11 PM
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40. By continually putting the truth out for the public to see.
Edited on Mon Apr-28-08 02:12 PM by Uncle Joe
Little by little they're waking up, whether we can do it all by November is a question, I haven't an answer to, but what's the alternative?

One interesting point, I've noticed, that whenever the corporate media reports Bush's dismal ratings, they accompany that with the Congress's poor ratings, of course this is comparing apples to oranges as there are 535 members of Congress belonging to both parties, but more to the point, they hardly never report their own piss poor ratings with the American Public. As I stated above I believe this because the American People are waking up to what has been done to them by our so called "fourth estate guardian watch dogs for democracy", or whatever the hell it is they like to call them selves.

One correction to my previous analogy, it is five card poker and the dealer is dealing five cards to the players, but keeping a sixth card hidden up his/her sleeve, this is what we should be exposing.
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MNDemNY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 02:14 PM
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41. Good luck with that. Righteousness may indeed triumph, but not that soon.
End result: President McCain.
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Uncle Joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 02:21 PM
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42. So when does righteousness triumph if good people remain silent?
I have no crystal ball, and I don't believe you have one either.
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stillcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 01:03 PM
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21. I'm sure you've noticed...
that the Reverend Wright issue was not going away. Why not throw some truth on the fire? The pastor's Church, with a membership of over 10,000 people is getting bomb threats, and he himself is getting death threats. And he should shut up and take it, because one member is a candidate? The media has carried out a public lynching of the man, and he should not push back? What happened to truth and justice? Does that all go away because of a political campaign?
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DearAbby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 01:13 PM
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25. Totally agree
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Bonobo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 12:32 PM
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Less are falling for it than THEY want us to think.
The jig is up. The mediacrocy is about go get a rude surprise.
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DearAbby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 12:36 PM
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10. Good to hear Bonobo
the handwringers are out in force today...
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MNDemNY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 01:54 PM
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36. Hope!
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Laura PourMeADrink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 12:32 PM
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5. You are so right and HRC's playing it like a harp - just like Rover
and Asshat did. O can not - why? becaue he's an honest
and decent person who doesn't know how to be sinister
and coniving and fake.
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rocktivity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 12:33 PM
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7. Now we know where the bitterness, paranoia and elitism are REALLY coming from.
Edited on Mon Apr-28-08 12:36 PM by rocknation
They couldn't turn Obama into an angry black man, so they outsourced the job. And they're going to keep using Rev. Wright as a weapon if only because the alternative is admitting they created it.

:headbang:
rocknation
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2rth2pwr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 12:34 PM
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8. Yesterday Obama suporters were giving props to the networks for carrying this live, so
everyone could learn about the man. Why are you upset?
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npincus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 12:34 PM
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9. exactly, the month-long MSM pastorgasm.
Obama needs to rest, clear his head, then call out the bullshit.
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SeaLyons Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 12:49 PM
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14. Obama is running for PRESIDENT!!!!
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DearAbby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 12:53 PM
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16. THAT'S RIGHT!!!
WRIGHT ISN'T! Are we going to hear a full sermon from HAGEE??? how about from Hillary's Pastor...Why does a Black man have to jump through special hoops to run for President?

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cascadiance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 01:53 PM
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34. And so is Hillary! Why don't we hear about the Daughters of the Confederacy...
Edited on Mon Apr-28-08 01:54 PM by calipendence
and how Bill Clinton has praised this group of racists on multiple occasions while she and he were "copresident"...

http://www.blackcommentator.com/274/274_clinton_udc.html

or why haven't we heard how she defends being part of "The Fellowship" with other congress critters that Democrats should love like Rick Santorum!?

Apparently because the media thinks its more important to slam Obama than her.

Why? Because it is OUR interests (the people)? HELL NO! It's because it's in THEIR interests (the corporate media), and the elites that the corporatocracy serves.
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DearAbby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 03:21 PM
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43. Why isnt the Spiritual mentors of the Other candidates
under a mircroscope like Obama's? Why the special treatment for one person in this race?

Why the SPECIAL TREATMENT for OBAMA?
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crankychatter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 12:54 PM
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17. Thank you... good grief... these Judas Goats are OBVIOUS
Edited on Mon Apr-28-08 12:59 PM by crankychatter
MSM is owned by WAR PROFITEERS that have made it their business to disinform the American people.

Clinton and McCain's Pastoral affiliations are with full blown fascists that assert we're in a War to the Death with Islam... calling for Armageddon... support an employer's "right" to discriminate... oppose all affirmative action... believe in economic darwinism... that poor folks are poor because they're morally deficient... think the END OF THE WORLD IS IMMINENT AND INEVITABLE... good grief...

they're effing WACK JOBS

I think we have some FAKE OBAMA SUPPORTERS that gradually infiltrate and then start their whining, hand wringing and snot slinging... "I support Obama but but but but but...."

THEY ARE JUDAS GOATS

if it wasn't THIS it would be SOMETHING ELSE

fuggem... let them perish in their willful ignorance.
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Writer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 12:56 PM
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18. The media do not work as a ideological collective.
They are just out to make money, so they're appealing to our basest emotions.
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DearAbby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 12:57 PM
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19. It's the JIM CROW of the 21st Century
Obama being a black man, has to run through special hoops to get a chance to become President...Poll test sort to speak.
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npincus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 01:07 PM
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23. Obama needs some SLEEP.
He needs to be refreshed, then come out swinging.
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DearAbby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 01:10 PM
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24. No...
We need to call the media out on this...It is not Obama's fault, It is not Wright's fault. Let's place the blame where it belongs.
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anonymous171 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 01:31 PM
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27. I say deflect and start attacking Clinton.
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npincus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 02:07 PM
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39. I agree w/your point wholeheartedly BUT the man needs to recharge.
20 hour days with the voracity and magnitude of the attacks on him; he needs to be at the top of his game.
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DearAbby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 01:36 PM
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29. Kicking
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DearAbby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 01:51 PM
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33. Kicking
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 02:00 PM
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37. It's also cultural blinkers on skates.
I think I just read that African Americans can't be connect to African oral tradition AND that all oral traditions are pretty much the same! :crazy:
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AlinPA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 02:04 PM
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38. The broadcast media determines the life of any 'story". They will decide.
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