MSNBC Is Beating This Wright Thing To Death

[DemocratSinceBirth]

I'm not a Obama supporter but this is overkill... This reminds me of impeachment when it was all Monica, all the time...

As to what Senator Obama should do I don't know.... Reverend Wright is making himself an issue as is his right.....I do think the Reverend Wright, who is a very bright man and knows exactly what he is doing, isn't helping Senator Obama's cause...

[Seen the light]

1. I think Wright is pissed off with Obama

That's the only thing I can figure. He knew good and well before he started this press tour that he was going to be covered nonstop for the days to come and become a distraction YET AGAIN. Yet he did it anyway.

So he's either trying to personally sabotage Obama for petty stupid reasons or he's a complete moron. Probably some of both.

[gateley]

7. Ego. It can get the best of most of us.

Even Gravel said he had to deal with his over-expanded ego when he was in the Senate. Gravel!

I'm with you in that I think Wright might feel kind of dissed by Obama's distancing himself from him.

[haymakeragain]

13. Only a true moron would call Wright a moron.

One thing this guy is NOT, that's a moron. I think you might just be a little bit timid for that Obama moniker you are sporting. If Obamans are anything, it ain't timid.

[Seen the light]

20. I call it like I see it

He's giving Hillary and the Republicans even MORE ammunition to use at this point. If he had any political savvy WHATSOEVER, he would keep his mouth shut or at least not continue to give them more stuff to twist to make Senator Obama look bad. Yet he continues to do it. He keeps talking and talking and talking and talking and talking and talking and talking when the best thing he could do right now is to either say nothing or at least stay clear from anything that could be twisted in the slightest way to be inflammatory.

[AlinPA]

41. Political savvy? He said that he was not a politician.

[Seen the light]

46. How about common sense then?

Why not talk to the Obama campaign about this first and see what they had to say about it? I assume he didn't do that because I have more faith in the campaign to approve Rev. Wright continuing this story up until at least next week.

[AlinPA]

77. One thing for sure, the media will keep Wright loaded on Obama's back for a long time.

[Klukie]

34. He may be pissed with Obama....

but he has every right to defend himself.... The media whipped up this controversy by using sound bites to portray him as a monster. They tore him down constantly for quite some time now. The man is entitled to defend himself and it has nothing to do with Obama.

[Seen the light]

45. I agree he has the right to defend himself

But why now and why in the manner that he's doing it?

No matter WHAT Rev. Wright says, the media spins it as somehow racist and/or unpatriotic. They also have forever linked Rev. Wright and Senator Obama. Keeping that in mind, why didn't he defend himself a month ago or whenever the controversy first erupted? Why wait this long and give the story constant play up until Indiana and NC? And why, when defending himself, does he has to do it in such a stupid manner, giving the media even MORE sound bites to use?

Just stupid stupid stupid.

[Butch350]

37. Yeah...It was like a tag team match...

[Butch350]

53. Maybe wright is working

For the Clintons. It sure seems like it.

Now is not the time to start solving racial problems in America when people are losing their homes, have no health insurance,
no jobs, and current jobs being shipped out of the country.

With that said...I have watched the wright speech and I don't really see what all the fuss is about.

But now Barack is gonna spend all of his time explaining the rants of a retired minister who is taking advantange of the moment
to push himself and his book.

[EFerrari]

75. WTF?

"Now is not the time to start solving racial problems in America when people are losing their homes, have no health insurance,
no jobs, and current jobs being shipped out of the country."

:wtf::wtf::wtf::wtf::wtf::wtf::wtf::wtf::wtf::wtf::wtf::wtf:

[leftofcool]

2. Obama threw him under the bus.......Wright throws back in kind

[mcctatas]

3. Another Du'er nailed it...

Frenchie Cat calls it "Pastorbating" :rofl:

[madfloridian]

4. This was Hillary's idea to use this.

http://journals.democraticunderground.com/madfloridian/2039\

The words from her campaign. She is getting a pass on this.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

8. I Am Trying Not To Be Partisan

But it does seem that Reverend Wright has embarked on a press tour as is his right... I don't see how Ms. Clinton can be fairly blamed for this... All I see on tv is Reverend Wright's own words... Whether they are taken out of context is subject for debate...

[madfloridian]

44. He embarked on that tour to save his reputation...

which Hillary used in her own words and the words of her campaign.

I feel partisan about using a man of God as a political tool.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

74. Why Couldn't He Wait Until After The Election

He's a Christian so I can quote Christ " No one has greater love than this, that one should lay down his life for his friends"...

All he needed to do is remain quiet for seven months...

If you really think Ms. Clinton is solely responsible for making Reverend Wright an issue there is nothing I can do to disabuse you of that notion...

[madfloridian]

78. He is defending himself and his church. Yes, I think Hillary has stoked this.

I find that repulsive.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

79. I Disagree But

You have devoted a great deal of time and personal investment attacking her as is your right and that affects your judgement...

I see Reverend Wright on all three cable news channels...If you think Ms. Clinton is responsible for that there is nothing I can do to disabuse you of that notion... Maybe he's just a good story....

[madfloridian]

82. She is WHY he is out there defending himself.

I was not against her at all until she started demanding FL delegates. I think you should know that.

We did not start to support Obama until the day Hillary starting pushing for those delegates because she needed them to win.

I post facts of what she has done. I have seen a side of her now, and a side of Bill Clinton that make me wonder if there is hope for our party.

I spend my time posting truth, and you are most free to debunk anything I say. I welcome it.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

86. MSNC Been Beating Up Reverend Wright All Day

If you think Senator Clinton is reponsible for the Wrightapalooza there is nothing I can do to disabuse you of that notion...

My proof...

MSNBC is the station whose employees have said "the Clintons' pimped out Chelsea", that Hillary owes her job to being a cuckolded wife, that Obama's speeches give a tingling down the leg, that Hillary should be taken in a room and have somse sense put into her... They are hardly a tool for the Clintons and they are beating this story to death...

Maybe you don't have cable ...

[madfloridian]

88. Maybe you did not read the words of her campaign.

http://journals.democraticunderground.com/madfloridian/2039

Nobody seems to care that her campaign declared a man of God an issue to attack Obama.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

90. Would

Would you please explain to me how a station that is hostile to Senator Clinton would want to help her campaign by bashing Reverend Wright and connecting him to Senator Obama?


You are obviously frustrated... I suggest you vent your frustration on the folks in the MSM who are flogging this story to the detriment of the Democratic party...

[madfloridian]

93. You are giving Hillary the ok for using a pastor against her opponent

That is pathetic.

[Ronnie]

81. I also find it repulsive

that you think this.

[Texas Hill Country]

5. it is all about ratings... since it is cable, the ratings are pretty instant.

[PurityOfEssence]

6. It's news, pure and simple.

I feel sorry for Obama. Wright's on a big ego fandango and it's going to keep reverberating.

What can Obama do? There's only so far he can repudiate the guy, and any move like that makes him look disloyal.

More religion-related joy.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

12. Call Me A Rube

I actually thought the press and specifically MSNBC liked Obama... I guess they like a juicy story more...

[PurityOfEssence]

60. You're right on all counts, except for being a rube

This is a STORY! That's what's driving it. The guy said MANY, MANY controversial things in a short period of time and it puts Obama in a very tricky position.

Bob and Ray said it best: "Americans are great; they'll line up around the block to see a dead whale on a flatcar." This is news, pure and simple, and it touches on big social and racial faultlines.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

76. If It Bleeds It Leads And The Reverend Wright Makes For Good Television

I'm old enough to remember when Minister Farrakhan injected himself into Jesse Jackson's 1984 campaign and got lots of press...

[EFerrari]

15. Would you explain to me how it is egotistical to defend your self,

your oongregation and your church in the national press after all three have been dragged through the mud?

[Shine]

42. Exactly right, sfexpat. I was going to make the same point.

the man's comments have been taken out of context, over and over again.

He has the right to clear his name and provide further insight about his perspective.

I haven't listened to his full speech, but I understand from what I've read about it that it was fairly impressive.

[EFerrari]

69. The NAACP speech was a virtuoso performance.

This morning's speech was a little more tense because he was on enemy territory but he gave a wonderful overview of the tradition he is working in. :)

[WillYourVoteBCounted]

47. timing and strategy

the best revenge is winning. Obama can do more for race relations than
any other single man.

[EFerrari]

68. No, he cannot. Change doesn't come from the top down

or integration would have worked, right, when segregation became illegal.

And I asked about egotism.

[zulchzulu]

9. There isn't anything else of importance going on in the World. That's why...

...Wright is on the news.

All of the other problems have been solved, fortunately.

:crazy:

[DefenseLawyer]

10. They beat Monica story to death and what happened?

The public got sick of it and turned against the impeachment movement in a big way. You compare the two events, yet assume that this overkill will hurt Obama, where it didn't hurt Clinton. I tend to think it will have the same effect this time around.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

18. I Don't See How It's Helpful

But I am willing to hear how it can be...

[DefenseLawyer]

50. I don't know if helpful is the right word.

The point is, people have a short attention span. The media reflects this. We rarely "solve" an issue in this country, the media just reports on it incessantly until everyone is sick of it and we move collectively to the next "issue". If they beat this issue to death, with nothing new to say about it, people will just tune out. By the time Newt and the boys got around to impeachment, the country gave them a collective "shut up already!" and they went down in flames. This seems like much the same. The die hard Obama haters will eat it up, everyone else will say, "didn't we already talk about this?"

[Barack_America]

11. And ultimately beating themselves to death in the process.

Worry not.

Everything is fine.

[BeyondGeography]

14. This too shall pass; who can watch the same irrelevant shit over and over again?

Meantime, it is hard to take, so I don't take it. Baseball, hockey, movies, DU...God bless them all.

[depakid]

16. The silver lining is: better now than in the fall

Of course, they'll keep beating it to death in the fall as well- but by then, it'll have lost some of its shock value and sting.

[anonymous171]

17. Obama's going to have to denounce him.

Sad, but necessary.

[Seen the light]

21. I agree n/t

[EFerrari]

23. If Obama does, I for one will lose respect for him. nt

[BlooInBloo]

25. I'm pretty sure the poster was being sarcastic.

[EFerrari]

32. Oops!

[BlooInBloo]

39. :) Not certain, however.

[BlooInBloo]

55. I was wrong. The poster is serious. Nothing more than a fair-weather friend.

[anonymous171]

58. C'mon, the media is trying to DEAN him with this!

He needs to do SOMETHING! A counter-message of some kind, a deflection at his opponents, SOMETHING!

[BlooInBloo]

62. How about for starters, we don't immediately give up and run home crying to status quo racism?

EDIT: After that, we'll work something out. :) Gotta wait to see how the attacks fully materialize, and how Obama is inclined to address them.

[anonymous171]

65. I'm not advocating giving up.

Quite the opposite. Obama needs to put on his his boxing gloves and step into the ring and fight the media. I don't mean defend Rev. Wright, I mean fight their framing that Obama is responsible for everything Wright says or does.

[BlooInBloo]

67. Yes you are. Denouncing Wright for doing nothing wrong is giving up....

... C'mon - giving up is one thing. Giving up and then lying about it is just fucking cowardice.

[EFerrari]

64. I agree with that. Let's see what Obama comes up with.

He's a smart person. He can handle it. And, now we KNOW what the media is doing and we can push BACK.

[Cali_Democrat]

35. same here

Obama should NOT denounce this man.

[Egnever]

83. As will I, I have loved wrights comments.

not a thing to apologize for yet if you ask me.

[Tribetime]

38. self delete

[butterfly77]

72. I don't think so...

That will be playing into the republicons game, I heard one host this morning talking to this caller who is supporting Obama and the host said "All that he has to do is say the right words" The caller asked what he meant and he said just Denounce him something that will not be done...

[TheDoorbellRang]

84. No. I don't agree

I saw all three Wright appearances -- Moyers, NAACP, and Press Q&A. The more I see him, the more I like him, warts and all. And I'm a middle aged white lady, FWIW. :shrug:

[NOLALady]

94. I disagree.

[DinahMoeHum]

19. Fine by me - people will grow sick of this shit. . .

and tell the MSM to move on.

:shrug:

[Life Long Dem]

22. The media sounds like a bunch of monsters. n/t

I can't watch it.

[BlooInBloo]

24. There's nothing white folks hate more than a black man who's smarter than they are...

... Especially when he's not afraid to say it and show it.

It's actually funny in a way - being smarter than the average American is such a low bar to set, after all.

[IndianaJones]

28. There's nothing white folks hate more than a black man. There...fixed. nt.

[sandnsea]

26. Will we stand up for our fellow citizens

or let the media continue lying and denigrating and dividing.

[DerekJ]

27. Look, did you notice that McCain, and the RNC was starting to hit Obama on Wright?!!

Either let them control the tone of the message, or the Obama camp can step in and control it. What they're doing is very smart. I believe it's done in a way to show Obama not happy with it, and that Wright is acting on his own.

[yurbud]

29. Harriet Beecher Stowe said something equally harsh about our treatment of blacks:

http://professorsmartass.blogspot.com/2008/04/harriet-beecher-stowe-agreed-with.html

[book_worm]

30. I'm not too worried about Wright--he hasn't said anything so far in this press tour that can hurt O

[SeaLyons]

31. ...it's very strange

that Wright would do this. Did he think it wouldn't hurt Obama. Is he that delusional?

[JimGinPA]

33. I Think It Has To Do With The NC RNC Using Him In That Ad...

For him to hit the public eye and show he's not the caricature they've portrayed him as might be what it takes to diffuse it now, rather than the fall.

[DearAbby]

36. Just another wedge issue...

what about the economy...Is this Wright story addressing that?
What about the War in Iraq?...Is this addressing that?

How in anyway has Wright affected your day to day life? Has it at all? Its distraction mode...same old same old...Wedge issue.

It is also racist, I don't see the media putting the two other candidates, Spiritual mentors under a microscope. This is just another Bullshit distraction

[yurbud]

40. turn this around: those who get mad at Rev. Wright for looking at sins of past don't want us to

look at their sins in the PRESENT either.

They try to tell us everything is fine while they fill their pockets with our tax dollars, chase us out of our homes, and send our children to die so oil companies can increase their profit margins.

Those are as ugly and uncomfortable as the things Rev. Wright said, but like those past injustices, they won't go away just because we choose to look away, anymore than most Americans' ignorance about the Middle East and our policies there prevented 9/11.

Ignorance isn't bliss--it's a death sentence.

[Swamp Rat]

54. "Ignorance isn't bliss--it's a death sentence."

:applause:

[Freddie Stubbs]

43. Wright refuses to go away

He's supposedly retired, but is running around giving speeches to the NAACP and the National Press Club like he some kind of politician.

[woolldog]

48. Vanity. It's pure vanity.

You can see it in the way he's carrying himself during these events. He's getting worse and worse in every appearance too.

[EFerrari]

66. It's not vanity to defend yourself or your church from defamation.

Damn.

[rucky]

49. Not quickly enough. n/t

[4_Legs_Good]

51. I think he's helping Obama against McCain.

I could be wrong, but I think by the time the party nomination is "official" Americans will be sick of hearing about Wright and all the cards will be on the table. "God Damn America" clips will be sooo old news that anyone who plays them will get eye rolls - "yes, yes, we've heard it before. His former pastor hates America."

I agree about MSNBC, though, they're completely fixated with this story and have been since the get go. I bet it's all Pat Buchannon's fault. I've learned to hate that guy since this story first broke.

David

[4_Legs_Good]

52. Dupe

[Bigleaf]

56. It's really pissing them off that we aren't rolling over like we did the last 7 years.

Excuse us if we're not taking the bait after the last seven miserable fucking years of you guys lying and covering up for Bush. The name is cupid, not stupid. Change is indeed coming and the MSM is not happy. Too bad for them. They will eventually be irrelevant. We're still years away but it will happen.

[EFerrari]

61. Exactly. And how we decide to handle events such as this one

could help determine how fast that happens.

[rucky]

63. My sentiments exactly.

And fuck the enablers, as well.

[Beacool]

57. Seriously?

I thought that they had officially endorsed Obama. They have been so in the tank for him that I stopped watching MSNBC after KO's 10 minute diatribe against Hillary.

[noel711]

59. Turn them off!

Stop feeding yourself the negativity!

They are not in control, WE are.

Stop the cable crapfest now...

[Bensthename]

70. Thats beacuse Wright is more important then her sniper fire "experience"

[moondust]

71. Daytime cable news is utterly unwatchable.

All of them.

[Kali]

80. pretty much ALL of teevee is utterly unwatchable, or at least it

was more than 10 years ago when I quit watching it. From what I can glean in conversation and reading it has only gotten worse. Kill the box!

[moondust]

91. At least you saved yourself!

Some programming isn't bad if you like nature programs, some sports, comedy, etc. Cable news did a hack job on Gore and Kerry and now they're doing it on Obama. It has become really obvious in the past few weeks since he won those 11 contests in a row and has become the presumptive nominee. It's getting ugly.

[jeffrey_X]

73. They all are.

eom

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

85. Well, they know how to make a buck from the suckers that watch them.

[Lilith Velkor]

87. Live by the MSNBC, Die by the MSNBC.

:nopity:

We tried to warn you.

[cd3dem]

89. Wright does not care if he is a problem, he sees himself as the real "change" person here...

he wants America to listen to him and agree with him...

[anigbrowl]

92. Media DABDA

He did not just say that!
How dare he say that! Did he really mean that?
I wish he hadn't said that.
Well, he might have a point.

[barack the house]

95. At least those on the outsid of this are seeing it.