Hillary (Senator-Punjab) Tells Indiana It's About "Jobs, Jobs, Jobs" But She Supports Outsourcing

[KittyWampus]

New York jobs to India. By the way, we have pictures of Hillary Clinton with swarthy men wearing turbans in this thread!

Yesterday, Hillary Rodham Clinton said to Indiana voters, "This campaign, to me, here in Indiana is about jobs, jobs, jobs,"

Too bad she's been instrumental in shipping thousands of jobs overseas to India. And derailed efforts by Congress to STOP the outsourcing of jobs to India.

And received hefty donations from Indian businessmen. And Bill Clinton has gotten in on the Indian gravy train as well.

No wonder ole Hillary calls herself the Senator from Punjab.

Does Hillary care more about jobs for India or Indiana?

When Hillary Clinton threw her hat in the senatorial ring in 1999, one Sikh donor with business interests in India enriched her to the tune of $50 thousand-and she enriched him with access. The Sikh is a millionaire whose circumstances suggest may be living on “borrowed” wealth. The man is hotel-restaurant mogel Sant Singh Chatwal. Chatwal a naturalized citizen from India who initially raised $500 thousand for Clinton in a fundraiser in his Upper Eastside penthouse. Chatwal reportedly committed 14 entities controlled by him to donate $210 thousand of that amount to Hillary’s first campaign for the US Senate. Not in the least surprising is the fact that Chatwal is also a key Trustee of the William J. Clinton Foundation.

Chatwal, a US tax deadbeat since at least 1996 (and a debt deadbeat before that) began donating to Bill and Hillary Clinton early in the Clinton years. The Clintons reciprocated (that old political quid pro quo) by approving grants to Indian-American advocacy groups that were used to finance the outsourcing of jobs from the United States to India. Beginning in 1996 Cisco Systems (another major Clinton donor) began laying off $60 thousand-plus high tech employees and replacing them with new hires from Bangalore, India for about half the dollars. Cisco Systems justified the hirings, claiming they could not find qualified employees in the United States. By 1998 Cisco had only a handful of Infosys Technology workers overseas (Infosys is an outsourcer of jobs to India). Most of their 850 employees are now Indian.

Bill Clinton received $300 thousand from Cisco in 2006 for two speeches at $150 thousand per speech. Cisco employees-those who still had jobs-donated $39,450 to Hillary.

In 2005 when it appeared outsourcing would have stiff penalties, Clinton and Chatwal went to India on Feb. 28 to personally assure Hillary’s constituents in the New York suburbs of Punjab that outsourcing was safe and that the United States government would make no attempt to save the jobs being lost to outsourcing. At a recent fundraiser hosted for Hillary by Dr. Rajwant Singh at his Potomac, Maryland home-who raised $50 thousand for Clinton that evening-the Senator joked “I can certainly run for the Senate seat in Punjab and win easily.”

Meanwhile, back to Chatwal. In March, 2007-after Clinton and Chatwal returned from India-Chatwal committed to raising $5 million for Hillary’s presidential campaign. “Outsourcing,” she had assured her “Punjab” constituents in India on Feb. 28, 2007, “will continue. There is no way to legislate against reality. We are not in favor of putting up fences.” Not even, apparently, one on the border. Shortly after returning to the United States, the Delaware-based IT Professionals Association of America -which represents IT professionals nationwide-voted Hillary Clinton its “Weasel Award,” which is given each year to business and political leaders who betray the trust of the American people.

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Washington May 18th - “I am delighted to be the Senator from Punjab as well as from New York” said Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton and the former first lady of the United States of America. She received a standing ovation and thunderous applause from the Sikh Americans who had gathered in the Senate side of the Capitol Hill on May 17th for the Sikh American Heritage Dinner Event in Washington, DC. The Sikh Council on Religion and Education (SCORE), based in the nation’s capital organized this event.

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** Singh has donated the maximum $4,600 to Hillary Clinton's presidential campaign.

[DefenseLawyer]

1. That's not relevant

She is talking about jobs. You have a lot of nerve to bring up her record on outsourcing when she is talking about jobs.

[redqueen]

6. Good point! Besides - WRIGHT!

Look at what WRIGHT said! He's scary and BLACK!

Be afraid! Vote Clinton!

[roguevalley]

18. everything is fair game. I want to know everything. I remember the

punjab remark. NAFTA and all of it. She is so sad.

[Rosa Luxemburg]

63. it's worthy of being reported in the media even

[PoliticalAmazon]

2. Hillary pimps her Senate position for her India outsuorcing contributors...

...She has already promised that outsourcing would continue, and told her India corporate handlers not to pay attention to American worker anger against India for the loss of their jobs, that outsourcing would continue, and that her top priority as president would be to advance India-U.S. relations.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x5470049

[redqueen]

7. So? What, that's a problem?

What? Jobs?

Huh?

She was ALWAYS against NAFTA! Really!

[Tim4319]

3. But Rev. Wright's comments will do this country more harm than outsourcing!

[LSparkle]

4. LOL! In this "Alice in Wonderland" atmosphere ...

that's what they'd HAVE you believe.

Why isn't Obama hitting her HARD about NAFTA???? This is
maddening to me -- how can she talk about JOBS without explaining
her support for a measure that is a MAJOR cause of jobs LEAVING
this country???

[KittyWampus]

5. IMO, since India and Indiana are so close phonetically, this is the ideal time to revisit this

[redqueen]

8. Jobs?

Unemployment is down, some say.

So maybe they figure this so-called "issue" won't hurt her candidacy.

[KittyWampus]

9. pro-Hillary 527 putting $700,000 into ad targeting Obama on economy.

JOBS, JOBS, JOBS
The pro-Hillary 527 -- American Leadership Project -- is putting $700,000 into a new Indiana TV ad targeting Obama on the economy.

[redqueen]

10. That is rich, considering her cheerleading for NAFTA.

I hope Obama pushes this hard.

[KittyWampus]

11. frankly, the Obama campaign is beginning to look incompetent. They haven't controlled

a news cycle in weeks.

Attacking Hillary on outsourcing to India WHILE IN INDIANA. And highlighting the money she AND Bill have gotten and her work in Congress.

She outright said "outsourcing will continue".

[redqueen]

12. I don't know what he's said though...

perhaps he has been hammering the issue, and it's not getting covered?

:shrug:

[KittyWampus]

13. if he mentioned Senator-Punjab, it'd get mentioned. Trust me. Hillary said it HERSELF

several times.

This is her soft white underbelly. That Obama isn't ripping it open shows incompetence.

[redqueen]

14. He might not hit her with the "punjab" comment because it seems tacky.

He might be talking about outsourcing / offshoring though.

I sent the story to his campaign.

[KittyWampus]

15. Hillary said it ABOUT HERSELF (sorry for caps, but I am nearly hollering :-)

and she said it several times. About herself.

[redqueen]

16. I know... she's beyond "tone deaf" she's embarrassing.

That's far from the only idiotic comment she's made.

I hope he mentions it too... get it in the M$M that way, perhaps.

:hi:

[ima_sinnic]

22. he already did mention it at one point, a couple of months ago, and then apologized

after some Indian business group complained and was all faux indignant. I really wish he had simply ignored them. He used it in some kind of campaign letter, where he put "Clinton (D-Punjab)."

I'm too burnt out right now to look for more info, but I'm sure it can be googled.

[KittyWampus]

24. here is a link to all info.

http://www.mydd.com/story/2008/1/25/213841/090

[redqueen]

34. Yup... that's exactly what I expected.

At first I typed that he might not use it cause it might be construed as offensive... but then I thought... why?

But does it matter why? If it can in any way be construed that way, someone will.

I wonder who was offended, and whether they may have financial interests in offshoring, outsourcing, increasing the number of whatever kind of visas, etc.

[PVnRT]

45. It aired where I live in Indiana this morning

Of course, using a 527 to air attack ads against your opponent is NOT swiftboating. :sarcasm:

[KittyWampus]

17. kick

[Scurrilous]

19. K & R

:thumbsup:

[KittyWampus]

20. Senator Punjab

[tabasco]

21. REV. WRIGHT!! REZKO!! HILLARY IS VETTED!!

"I AM DELIGHTED TO BE THE SENATOR FROM PUNJAB."

Just one reason the republicans desperately want Hillary as the nominee.

[tabasco]

23. Kick!

:kick:

[Evergreen Emerald]

25. so, its ok to be racist as long as the race you are dissing is not African American?

what a bunch of hypocrites.

[ima_sinnic]

26. how is that "racist"? FAIL

just mentioning another country is not "racist" sheesh, quit with the fake indignation already.

there is no derogatory remark about a race, only about the fact that the fake "Democrat," the traitor, is shipping our jobs to another country. where is the racism?

[tabasco]

27. LOL! It's not racist to condemn outsourcing, sweetie.

"I AM DELIGHTED TO BE THE SENATOR FROM PUNJAB."

[redqueen]

35. You do know that SHE said it, right? She made that up herself. It's supposed to be funny.

*sigh*

[LoZoccolo]

66. Lame. n/t

[KittyWampus]

28. when will Obama shove her own words down her throat?

[indimuse]

29. violent much??

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[Starbucks Anarchist]

61. Your arguments match your HTML skills.

[EnviroBat]

30. Senator Hillary Punjab

That's great! That is how I will refer to her from now until she's gone like the fart-in-the-wind she truly is.

Jobs! Jobs! Jobs! for India...

[OhioChick]

31. K&R

:kick:

[catgirl]

32. Hillary is a wolf is sheeps clothing

[mod mom]

33. It was Bill Clinton who pushed MF Trade Status with China:

Clinton to renew Normal Trade Relations with China



June 2, 1999
Web posted at: 4:51 p.m. EDT (2051 GMT)


WASHINGTON (AllPolitics, June 2) -- President Bill Clinton will notify Congress Thursday that he is renewing China's most-favored-nation (MFN) trading status -- now known as Normal Trade Relations (NTR) -- for another year, CNN has confirmed.

MFN/NTR status offers low tariffs and treats countries as normal trading partners.

The formal notification, required by the Thursday deadline, is expected to trigger a major debate in the House and Senate due to allegations of Chinese espionage against the U.S. and other recent diplomatic tensions, including charges China tried to influence the 1996 presidential election with illegal campaign contributions.

One of the first speak out against Clinton decision, Rep. Nancy Pelosi (D-California), derided the president for making the decision near the 10th anniversary of the Tiananmen Square massacre.

-snip

http://www.cnn.com/ALLPOLITICS/stories/1999/06/02/china.mfn/



Clinton Proposes Renewing China's Most-Favored Trade Status

Congressional reaction mixed amidst larger China policy issues


WASHINGTON (AllPolitics, June 3) -- President Bill Clinton on Wednesday proposed renewing most-favored-nation (MFN) trade status for China, saying it was "clearly in our nation's interest" as he urged Congress to support the request.

-snip

House Speaker Newt Gingrich welcomed Clinton's recommendation for renewing MFN status for China, and vowed to work in a bipartisan manner to ensure that China receives it from Congress.

Gingrich, joined by Reps. Bill Archer (R-Texas) and Philip Crane (R-Ill.), made his comments in a letter to Clinton.

-snip

House Democratic leader Richard Gephardt issued a statement Wednesday opposing Clinton's plan to extend China's trading status for another year.

http://www.cnn.com/ALLPOLITICS/1998/06/03/china.trade/


AND NOW THAT IT'S POLITICALLY EXPEDIENT, HILLARY BACK PEDDLES ON FREE TRADE (WHILE BOTH HER HUSBAND & CHIEF STRATEGIST WERE RACKING IN THE BIG BUCKS PUSHING FREE TRADE WITH COLUMBIA. ) WAS HRC AGAINST NAFTA?



Hillary Clinton has made statements unequivocally trumpeting NAFTA as the greatest thing since sliced bread. The Buffalo News reports that back in 1998, Clinton attended the World Economic Forum in Davos, Switzerland, and thanked praised corporations for mounting "a very effective business effort in the U.S. on behalf of NAFTA." Yes, you read that right: She traveled to Davos to thank corporate interests for their campaign ramming NAFTA through Congress.

On November 1, 1996, United Press International reported that on a trip to Brownsville, Texas, Clinton "touted the president's support for the North American Free Trade Agreement, saying it would reap widespread benefits in the region."

The Associated Press followed up the next day noting that Hillary Clinton touted the fact that "the president would continue to support economic growth in South Texas through initiatives such as the North American Free Trade Agreement."

In her memoir, Clinton wrote, "Senator Dole was genuinely interested in health care reform but wanted to run for president in 1996. He couldn't hand incumbent Bill Clinton any more legislative victories, particularly after Bill's successes on the budget, the Brady bill and NAFTA."

-snip

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/david-sirota/hillary-clinton-pretends-_b_86747.html

[Romulox]

38. Al Gore was the public face of Clinton's case for NAFTA

Talk about triangulation! :rofl:

[mod mom]

44. Gore broke w the DLC in 2000:

Published on Sunday, August 20. 2000 in the Boston Globe
Thank You, Al Gore
by Robert Kuttner
A funny thing happened to Al Gore on the way to his surprisingly effective acceptance speech. He became a liberal.

The speech was as liberal as anything FDR or LBJ or Jesse Jackson or one of the Kennedys might have delivered. It was built around a commitment to fight for ordinary people, against large and powerful interests. This, of course, is precisely what made it effective.

The emotional heart of the speech, Gore's honoring of four ordinary American lives, did not just salute the struggles of workaday families, the way Ronald Reagan often did. It identified who was dishonoring their struggles - corporations. He singled out heartless HMOs who pressure a family to sacrifice a child; drug companies that force a pensioner to choose between food and medicine; corporate polluters; corporations that pay workers inadequate wages.

And he identified the solution: strong, reliable public Social Security; better Medicare; welfare reform that rewards work rather than punishing the needy; higher minimum wages; and more investment in public - not voucher - schools, so that working families don't have to send kids to crumbling classrooms.

What is the evil? Corporate power. What is the remedy? Effective government.

-snip

http://www.commondreams.org/views/082000-105.htm

[Romulox]

36. The ugly truth is that there is virtually no difference between Obama and Hillary on trade

He's a "free trader" who supports NAFTA, but promises to make some unspecified changes to the treaty.

Try to put that on a bumper sticker. :rofl:

[KittyWampus]

41. any port in a storm. We go to the polls with the pols we have, not the ones we really want.i

[redqueen]

59. Which major outsourcing / offshoring firms is he tight with, as Hillary is with TATA?

Which country is he tight enough with to call himself "the senator from (some city in that country)?"

?

[closeupready]

37. "jobs, jobs, jobs" -the rationale that James Baker offered as to why Iraq was invaded the first time

We now know where she's getting her campaign themes.

[MyNameGoesHere]

39. Why do you hate Indian people?

And you kind of lie also.

At the fundraiser hosted by Dr Rajwant Singh at his Potomac, Maryland, home, and which raised nearly $50,000 for her re-election campaign, Clinton began by joking that, 'I can certainly run for the Senate seat in Punjab and win easily,' after being introduced by Singh as the Senator not only from New York but also Punjab.

She was joking and said she could win. She did not say she was Senator from Punjab. Why do you hate Indians?

[redqueen]

43. “I am delighted to be the Senator from Punjab as well as from New York”

said Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton.

http://www.sikhcouncilusa.org/article.aspx?article=evtdinner

So you admit she said it... and joking or not, her support for offshoring / outsourcing belies her concern about jobs.

So... where's the lie?

[MyNameGoesHere]

46. Ok so again why do you hate Indians?

She obviously said it to please the crowd. And her making friends to Indians disgusts you how? Are you Indianphobic?

[redqueen]

47. Why do you think you're fooling anyone?

Nobody here thinks that pointing out Hillary's trying to have it both ways on labor has anything to do with "hating Indians".

As for saying it to please the crowd... at least one person jumped all over Obama for referring to her 'joke'. Maybe it's only offensive when nonwhites say it?

:shrug:

[KittyWampus]

53. She made the Punjab comment twice. At least.

[MyNameGoesHere]

54. But jobs have went to many countries yet you only

rag about the Punjab candidate. I am hopeful you can stop hating Indians one day.

[redqueen]

58. Your post is... just ugh... but I'll give a response a shot.

1. Even though jobs have went (sic) to many countries, we are talking about YOUR candidate, who is in bed with TATA, which is in ONE country. Clear?

2. When you call her "the Punjab candiate" you are trying to make her into a victim. That's bullshit. Would you stop it already? Nobody is falling for that weak-ass shit but her followers.

3. She is a tells voters she's interested in protecting jobs, while she's fighting for lower-paid Indian workers to come take jobs from IT professionals here who can't find work. That's lying.

4. There's really nothing I can say about your last sentence ("I am hopeful you can stop hating Indians one day.") Other than please, try to get a clue.

I'm really sick of this stupidass act so many people are putting on.

[MyNameGoesHere]

64. China has been shipping cheap goods to the USA for decades now

he has not voted against that, but INSISTS< lip service with no action again> human rights reform. He supported a free trade deal with Oman. A country that has a record of human trafficking. So is Obama the African candidate? Whoa that would get some peoples ass in a uproar hear, and cause me to be labeled as a racist. Also if i am not mistaken, although it is hard to nail down any position he holds, Obama is for increasing h1b visas? As is HRC and Mcstain. So as you can see in his statement below, he once again gives lip service with no action. Just like his against the war but okie dokie to fund it position.

"We can do better than that and go a long way toward meeting industry’s need for skilled workers with Americans. Until we have achieved that, I will support a temporary increase in the H-1B visa program as a stopgap measure until we can reform our immigration system comprehensively."

[redqueen]

65. I know they're similar on trade. This is not news.

However, she stinks more on this issue IMO...

As for her statement there - we have skilled workers. Her lies are not just her lies, but bullshit corporatist lies. Ask some IT professionals.

Jesus.

[MyNameGoesHere]

68. I am an IT professional. India has not affected me in the least.

The only ones I hear from are the racist complaining of the accents of Indian workers. I have no time for them anyway as most are just paper educated hacks anyway. By the way that quote was from Obama about temporary increase in H1B's.

[redqueen]

69. Hahahaha... well I work in the industry as well... just an admin.

But I see it differently.

:hi:

[OhioChick]

55. An Example:

Nielsen layoffs, tax breaks anger Oldsmar officials (TATA)

Published Tuesday, April 15, 2008 11:39 PM

OLDSMAR — City Council members expressed outrage Tuesday over the Nielsen Co.'s plans to eliminate 110 positions at their Oldsmar operation after accepting government money to create jobs.

"To think they have the gall to take taxpayers' money and then lay people off!" said council member Suzanne Vale. "I am so upset."

"It's just incomprehensible to me," agreed council member Janice Miller.

They were responding to news that Nielsen is outsourcing work to India-based Tata Consultancy Services after receiving at least $3.1-million in state and local subsidies mainly to create jobs in Oldsmar.

Tata, one of the world's largest providers of consulting and outsourcing services, has brought in its own workers from India.

And Nielsen, formerly known as Nielsen Media Research, says they have plans to restructure further.

The topic was raised by City Council members at the end of their regular Tuesday meeting.

Some members urged their colleagues to stay calm. Mayor Jim Ronecker reminded the council that outsourcing is a national trend.

"We can't tell them how to run their business," he said.

"No, but we can call a thief a thief when they take the taxpayers' money," said council member Greg Rublee.


http://www.tampabay.com/news/business/article458509.ece

Isn't TATA..... HRC's baby?

[Starbucks Anarchist]

60. I'm Indian, and you're full of shit.

Being against outsourcing is not anti-Indian, it's anti-greed and pro-worker.

[LoZoccolo]

67. Lame. n/t

[berni_mccoy]

40. Hillary Heard Indiana and thought She Heard India and Sent all their Jobs overseas.

[KittyWampus]

42. Teh comedy, it writes itself.

[AzDar]

48. Kick...

:kick:

[DrFunkenstein]

49. Does It Surprise You That Her Former Strategist and Current Top Pollster Lobbies For Outsourcers?

Seriously, is there anyone too scummy for Mark Penn to represent? Ok, maybe outsourcers are not on par with, say, Blackwater and the the Argentina military dictatorship. Or Phillip Morris and Bhopal. Or Ahmed Chalabi and the Iraqi National Congress.

But I've never been one to suggest that you can judge someone by the company you keep (or employ as your chief strategist).

By the way, her current campaign manager, Maggie Williams, served for years on the board of one of the worst subprime lenders (Delta Financial) before it went bankrupt after so many of its subprime borrowers defaulted on loans they couldn't afford.

[tabasco]

50. If you denounce outsourcing - YOU ARE A RACIST!

According to Hillary.

[Stephanie]

51. Just ask Buffalo, NY! She promised them jobs, she brought an outsourcing firm instead (TaTa!)

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x4919403

[OhioChick]

56. kick

:kick:

[tabasco]

52. Kick to expose the lies.

:kick:

[Buzz Clik]

57. "They took our jobs!" I'm not sure how well that's playing in Indiana.

She is spending a lot of money on the theme in her ads, but it's just not that huge of an issue.

[Rosa Luxemburg]

62. Does Indiana know about the Senator for Punjab?

does the MSM know about the Senator for Punjab?