Uh oh! KO says Wright threw Obama under the bus!

[MonkeyFunk]

oh man, the cognitive dissonance is about to reach critical mass!

[IndianaJones]

1. lmao. nt

[anonymous171]

2. "He [Wright] does not speak for this campaign."

[LSparkle]

4. That's right -- he does not speak for this campaign

Obama needs to give Rev. Wright back as good as he got ...
the equivalent of the under the bus heave-ho.

[Tellurian]

95. Wright spoke from personal experience..Obama will LIE to get elected..

[Hieronymus]

98. Very funny, we all saw that video of Hillary dodging sniper fire.

[Tellurian]

101. No one cares...They want a Dem in the White House...she can win..

you can take comfort in all your slurs and slanders you've aimed at the Clintons on DU and put them under your tear stained pillow. Clinton supporters will be partying when she gets the nomination and wins the General Election for all who wanted a Dem in the WH in 09'!

[Hieronymus]

102. You don't care? .. haven't you had enough lies from the White House already?

[Tellurian]

103. Everything coming out of your mouth is nonsense..grasping at straws..

I'm done here..

[Yossariant]

9. "He is my spiritual mentor."

[anonymous171]

13. "He does not speak for this campaign."

[Hoof Hearted]

21. "I could no more disown him than my typical white racist grandma"

It's an amalgam, sure, but it saves time.

[GoldieAZ49]

46. the senator does check with his pastor before making any bold political moves.

and now we get more in depth views of those politics the pastor shares with Obama.

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/custom/religion/chi-070121-relig_wright,1,271630.story?cset=true&ctrack=1&page=2&coll=chi-religion-topheadlines

[Tellurian]

72. Wright is a live witness attesting to Obama's dubious rhetoric..

That is what Wright's Press Conference was all about yesterday. Wright said: "Obama is a politician and will say anything to get elected!"

[The Doctor.]

82. One shouldn't use full quotes when paraphrasing.

Or are you saying those really were his words?

[Tellurian]

92. The point remains the same!

[The Doctor.]

93. You deliberately misquoted him, and the point is not the same. You are deliberately misleading.

Wright said that Obama says what he does because he's a politician. At no point did Wright say, or even suggest that; "Obama is a politician and will say anything to get elected!".

You've long since crossed the line into irrational, I take it disingenuous is nothing new to you either.

[Tellurian]

97. Bullocks!

Here is the video..

Wright says Obama is a politician and says whatever he needs to say to get elected..

http://en.sevenload.com/videos/MWtCMGH-Wright-electable

[The Doctor.]

104. BWHAAHAHAHAAAA!!! Ummm.... he was quoting SOMEONE ELSE.

Oh... you are a riot and right off the deep end, aren't you?

Add to that the fact that he still didn't say; "Obama is a politician and will say anything to get elected!", and you're still misquoting the quote he quoted.


Look, you'll believe whatever you want, I don't expect to change that. I just find it hilarious that you guys will go and take the words of someone who's NOT a politician and hold it up as some kind of fault of Obama's. Then, if you have a few firing synapses left, take a look at the candidate who is actually saying "anything to get elected" including, but not limited to, elevating her party's opponent over her colleague.

There's still room in reality for you, but apparently no room in you for reality.

[Hugin]

3. No kidding.

:eyes:

[tekisui]

5. Wright tossed Obama?

I didn't think he was in a position to do that.

Oh well, whatever gets us to move on.

[Bluebear]

6. Ruh-roh!

[IndianaJones]

7. that pic is awesome. nt

[anigbrowl]

23. Here's the full picture...it's worse than we thought

[WinkyDink]

59. That's a fragile tea-cup you've picked. Just sayin'.

[mcctatas]

8. That's it...

I'm writing MSNBC to demand that KO be fired!
:sarcasm:

[Bucky]

10. At this point I don't even know what "thrown under the bus" means

Were they waiting at the same metaphorical bus stop? Who was driving this figurative bus? How how this random, senseless phrase become so popular, lately? In context it seems to mean "did or said something unhelpful." Is such minor comment really worthy of its own idiom?

[Tellurian]

94. Oh, my...claiming ignorance..

will that be the identical claim if Obama is the nominee and is slaughtered by the Republicans in the general?

We don't want to take a chance on the ignorance of Obama's supporters poor judgment in nominating a candidate that will lose in the general..I know the Clintons can win... they always do!

[blm]

11. KO is reading it wrong, imo.

.

[susankh4]

54. K.O. is always reading everything wrong.

He needs to go back to the locker room where his ignorance will be more readily appreciated.

[blm]

57. No - he's usually right. He's mistaken about this. Clintons are wrong to think people are so stupid

that they didn't deserve any truth about the deep-sixing of BCCI matters that LED to Bush2 and 9-11.

Clintons are wrong to think they could fool everybody in the Dem party by pardoning IranContra thug for Poppy and telling Dems he was just a wealthy tax evader.

Clintons think their supporters are stupid and treat them as such. They are wrong to do it - wrong and insulting to any citizen who believes that truth matters.

[rodeodance]

63. stop blaming the "clintons" for pastor wright's problems.

[blm]

67. I blame Clintons for deep-sixing BCCI matters to protect GHWBush - why don't YOU?

You want to live in a world of soundbite gotcha politics and I want to live in a world where our nations protects the truth and holds the corrupt accountable.

You want the Dem protectors of the Bushes and their global corruption to return to power so BushInc would continue to be protected into the next decade - just like Bill did throughout the 90s..

[The Doctor.]

86. 1.

[still_one]

12. I remember when King started his civil rights marches, and the wonderful

comments made then referring to King:

"he doesn't know his place"

"he is a trouble maker"

"he isn't a peaceful man"

and much worse

Frankly, I wish someone would point out to Hillary when she jumped on the band wagon regarding Wright being anti-American, that this was the same pastor giving Bill Clinton counsel when he lied about a BJ

[keep_it_real]

14. So now Wright will get the nom and Obama wont?

[ananda]

15. That's interesting.

Actually, I think Obama has made his own mistakes..
and serious ones at that.

If he wins the nomination, I will vote for him.
If Clinton wins it, I will vote for her.

But there's nothing either of them can or will do
that will mean the kind of deep change this country
and the world need to survive.. until they get free
of corporate and lobbyist influence.

Sue

[Quixote1818]

16. Well, at least now Obama can really distance himself from Wright. nt

[Bluebear]

17. Obama can no more disown him than he can disown the black community.

:hide:

[Quixote1818]

22. Maybe so. Just as long as Wright shuts up now until after the election

If he can do that, all this will blow over. If Wright keeps seeking the limelight, he could cause Obama real trouble.

[MonkeyFunk]

26. Oh, but he won't!

He has a book coming out right around election time! The gift that keeps on giving.

[susankh4]

55. What's up with that?

A book coming out in the fall???

Is he an egomaniac or what?

[Hoof Hearted]

31. "real trouble"

That ship has sailed. Real trouble is upon him.

[Hoof Hearted]

25. and his own white typical racist grandma, don't forget her.

[MyNameGoesHere]

62. you mean the one that is in

a "undisclosed location"? The sequestered one? Wonder why no one can interview her?

[Carni]

81. That stupid old white woman!

I hate those people don't you?

Oh wait! I'm white and according to Obama and company I'm old and *working class*
(UG! Gotta hate those lowly *working people*)

I only wish I could be as cool as the Obamination folks!

[Doityourself]

18. KO is entitled to his opinion of situation like everyone else..I'm still a fan of his..

[Hoof Hearted]

19. You're very brave Monkey. I can't watch that dolt anymore.

He's an embarrassment to the legitimate left, a cartoon.

[The Doctor.]

69. Wow... you people are truly vindictive... childish even.

Lemme guess, you also 'won't vote for Obama' in the General Election.

If everyone behaved like you, and stopped listening to anyone that said something they didn't like, the media would disappear overnight.

I don't agree that anyone necessarily "threw anyone under the bus", I think it's a mischaraterization. Should I behave the way you do and stop listening to KO? Well of course you want me to stop watching, he's a big bad meanie who said things you didn't like... so 'it would serve him right'!

You're children.

[The Doctor.]

87. 2.

[DeepModem Mom]

20. KO could not have been stronger in his opinion, and he used those words --

Wright threw Barack Obama under the bus. Richard Wolffe presents a sort of psychological view, indicating that Wright seems a narcissistic person, jealous of Barack's success -- and even disapproving because Barack's world/religious view is not the same as his own. Wright is not the black Church, does not speak for the black Church.

The political view is that Obama is in a really difficult place -- put there by Wright, and by the decision not to distance himself from Wright earlier. Both distancing himself further from Wright, and not distancing himself further, carry risks. It was said that Wright had a chance to be a confidante, and influence on, the next President of the United States -- that chance, needless to say, is GONE!

[Hoof Hearted]

27. But he's going to be Obama's Vice President! He said so!

[anonymous171]

28. "He does not speak for this campaign."

I could say that I was going to be Obama's VP and my announcement would have just as much weight.

[Hoof Hearted]

32. "I could no more disown him than my typical white racist grandma"

[anonymous171]

34. "I did not have sexual relations with that woman"

[Hoof Hearted]

41. Why so bitter?

[bunnies]

42. checkmate!

:rofl:

[WinkyDink]

60. Oh, right. Because serving two terms = trying to get nominated.

Whom is the laugh on?

[otohara]

38. At Least He's Not Lying - Sniper Fire in Bosnia

his granny was sharing with him what many typical white women feel in same situation! You know FEAR, that stuff Hillary's desperate commercials are filled with.

[DeepModem Mom]

33. The Rev -- what a jokester!

:)

[dbmk]

68. Can we get a specific quote and source, please?

[The Doctor.]

83. It was a joke... and he didn't even finish saying it before snickering

to himself about it.

[dbmk]

105. Exactly

I knew that. I just wanted someone willing to spout BS to waste 20 min and realise they were wrong. Bigger hopes on the first than the last, though.

[anigbrowl]

35. Consider this...

It'll be sort of hard for all these people who insist Wright has thrown Obama under the bus (of his book tour, I assume) to argue that Obama's too close to him after this, eh? Obama's just going to shrug it off from here on out. Let's face it, if Wright had gone all cryptic we'd just be hearing conspiracy theories about it instead.

I hope Wright speaks somewhere if he comes to San Francisco. I'd like to hear him even though I'm not Christian and disagree with about 40% of what I hear from him.

[otohara]

36. I Can't Watch, Not Even KO

this is a sick obsession, one week overpaid talking heads are praising Obama, says speech on race so important historians to need to teach it, now we have a media lynching going on because the pastor didn't stay put and keep his mouth shut.

[JoFerret]

52. I'll take Wright over KO any day

.

[Seen the light]

24. Obama needs to denounce/reject this money-grubbing narcissist and move on once and for all

I'm starting to see Jeremiah Wright as just as big of an enemy as the Republicans.

[Hoof Hearted]

30. Michelle won't let him.

I would bet a weeks pay on that one.

[DeepModem Mom]

37. I was actually wondering about Michelle spending a little "quality time"...

with Pastor Wright. She's one tough lady. Maybe he'd decide he'd be more comfortable back home in Chicago after all, instead of on this p.r., soon-to-be-book, tour.

[anigbrowl]

44. Screw that...denounce/reject is playing Hillary's game

Besides, I'm not sure that it isn't working in Obama's favor...now Wright is the magnet attracting the projected fears of ambivalent white people...only he's also a marine and a well-qualified intellectual...oh noes, this is confusing...I'm...I'm...thinking...make it stop!

Also, have you seen Rod Parsley, the guy that McCain calls his spiritual guide (as opposed to that Hagee guy who merely endorsed him). Rod Parsley is a total fruit loop who sells prayer cloths over the TeeVee. Seriously. He makes Jeremiah Wright look like Mr Spock.

[chill_wind]

49. !! Lol...."makes Jeremiah Wright look like Mr Spock." That was GOOD :-)

But REV. Wright, in his own Wright, has two PHd's and speaks 5 languages, which I didn't know until last night's CNN airing.


I agree. Let Wright be Wright and let Obama be Obama. Wright isn't running for office. He took great pains to point that out last night. I think most people get that by now. GOD the MSM are lazy dimwits.

[MonkeyFunk]

106. Well, Obama just played Hillary's game, then

:rofl:

[billyoc]

29. Lemme guess, you like him now?

:eyes:

[DeepModem Mom]

39. I've always liked KO --

IMO, he's earned a big place in our history for speaking out when no one else would. I'm an Obama supporter, but don't approve of KO's nightly skewering of Hillary. I like both candidates, and have supporters of both in my own immediate family. I respect both my loved ones and their choice of candidate -- and I respect KO. I just wish he were more even handed re. the candidates -- not a popular view here.

:hide:

[barack the house]

40. Wright had to clear his name. However this turns out I think he's right to do so.

[uponit7771]

43. I dont agree with KO and wonder why he's on this track, Maddow let the cat out of the bag though....

...about McSames pastors and the fact they are his political guides and they're extremist.

[bunnies]

45. I think youre confusing Obama supporters with....

supporters of some *other* unnamed candidate.

Who cares what KO said? Its not like we're going to whip out the pots and pans.

[MonkeyFunk]

48. LOL

Are you seriously saying that Obama supporters don't care what KO says? Did I imagine the few hundred threads cheering him on every time he attacked Clinton?

[bunnies]

53. That still doesnt mean that anyone would spaz out over this.

I'd think it would have to be a bit more substantial. So he says Wright threw Obama under the bus. So what? Its not like he said Obama was an asshole or anything. Ya know?

[susankh4]

56. No. That was not in your imagination.

And just a day ago they were defending him for using a "figure of speech" when he said Hillary should be taken into a room and incapacitated..... such that she couldn't walk back out.

[berni_mccoy]

47. QUICK! OBAMA SUPPORTERS! GET YER POT AND PANS! THIS IS HUGH!!1!

Let's go down to NBC Tomorrow and bang our POTS AND PANS at that TEWIBLE NBC!

[The Doctor.]

84. Oh no... you've just incited a COUNTER-PROTEST!!!

The Clinton people will be all over us with paper towels and non-stick cooking spray!

:rofl:

[JoFerret]

50. KO lost all credibility a while ago

Stop paying him any attention.

[The Doctor.]

85. Hello... I'm taking a survey...

Of the number of children posting in this thread;

Do you have a valid reason for claiming his lack of credibility, or shall I put you down as "petulant child"?

Thank you.

[hannybal]

51. Wright breaking with Obama would be fatal

Because Obama's strength stems mainly from his overwhelming support from African Americans. This would weaken this strength.

[Jamastiene]

58. ...

:popcorn:

[barb162]

61. Olbermann needs to get his brain back.

I hope that happens one of these days; I really liked him even up to a few months ago.

[The Doctor.]

88. 3.

[nichomachus]

64. The right wing wants you to talk about Rev. Wright. Thanks for playing their game.

[MonkeyFunk]

107. I thought it would be a nice break

from all the left-wing-approved discussions of Monica Lewinsky here.

[ronnykmarshall]

109. Three snaps up!

[rodeodance]

65. KO does not have to say it to know that Wright was not kind to Obama for

his many appearances this last several days.

The Obama camp was/is damage control once again.

[Carni]

66. Where are all the Wright supporters this morning? LOL

Gee, yesterday there was thread after thread after thread of people...and I quote "who get it" singing the praises of Wright's masterful unifying speeches and sermons.

Where are all you masterminds of political strategy today?

I guess Obama must not "get it" anymore like you all do LOL

OH and BTW I usually stay out of this flame war primary garbage but stop blaming Wright's big egotistical bigoted mouth on the HRC campaign.

[stillcool]

73. I'm a Wright supporter....

what's all the fuss about? Do I have to denounce, renounce, and reject Reverend Wright because I support Obama? Are they not separate but equal as human beings?

[Carni]

74. Maybe you should ask your candidate?

HE has renounced Wright!

[stillcool]

100. What is 'renouncing'

"I don't speak for Reverend Wright, and Reverend Wright does not speak for me"..Is that 'renouncing'? Because I like, and agree with what Reverend Wright has to say, does that mean that Senator Obama has to like and agree with what Reverend Wright has to say? I'm having a hard time seeing Reverend Wright and Senator Obama as the same person.

[Carni]

108. You'd probably be hard pressed...

To find your way out of a bag as well, but fortunately that just isn't my problem.

[Texas Hill Country]

70. ummm... he did.

[livingmadness]

71. And you think that is a BAD thing for Obama????

ah hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahhahahaha!

[The Doctor.]

75. Apparently you don't even know what "Cognitive Dissonance" is...

You see, so far as I've seen, it's the Clinton supporters that storm off in a tantrum when a long-loved commentator say something about their candidate they don't like. That's simply childishness, not 'cognitive dissonance'.

"Cognitive Dissonance" tends only to come into play when someone is attempting to reconcile otherwise perceived absolutes that contradict one-another. Most intelligent adults have learned not to assign absolute values to non-absolute entities or issues. If you want to apply 'cognitive dissonance' here, you'd be saying that Olbermann listeners believe that a) He's always right. b) He said something they can't agree with.

Well, as an adult, I have no problem listening to Olbermann say something I may disagree with, understanding why he said it and what merits his position or statements may have, and continue to listen to him without my opinion of him changing in the least.

There is no "cognitive dissonance" either way.

Now, are you one of the children that decided to stop listening to him because he said 'bad mean things' about your favorite candidate?

[SeaLyons]

76. ...

If KO says it....it must be right. :sarcasm: Isn't that what all you Obama supporters have been saying about KO - "truth to power".....:rofl:

[The Doctor.]

89. 4.

[graycem]

77. I half-agree..

but I think it was intentional, to give Obama an out. If you happened to catch it, he also confirmed Obama did not hear the speech and therefore shouldn't be commenting on it. It sounded like a slam, but really it backed up Obama's claims. Thanks Rev.! :)

[livingmadness]

78. Exactly!

[graycem]

80. I really do believe that..

all his mannerisms and everything, was to give Obama a reason to be "pissed" and him "throwing Obama under the bus" provide political distance without Obama having to look like a he was the one being disloyal. Sort of like, hmm.. the polar bear, she'll fight with her cub when it gets older, distance herself from her, but not to be mean, rather than to force her to be independent. :P

He gave Obama a reason to say, well, "see, he's just a crazy uncle.." or what have you. Obama is now going to eventually get sympathy from this whole thing I think, and people are going to realize the idiocy of involving religion in our politics.

[The Doctor.]

91. Very wise.

[geiger]

79. this is not a black/white issue; we are talking about two complex individuals here. eom.

[The Doctor.]

90. So far, including MF, we have five children posting in this thread.

I'm still waiting to hear back from JF, who deserves the BOTD, but apparently there are at least five people who decided to spurn the only truly liberal-leaning commentator on cable because he said 'mean bad nasty things' about their candidate, and who believe that Obama supporters should behave just as childishly as they do.

I love these threads.

[Bonobo]

96. Reduced to sniper fire, no pun intended.

[pecwae]

99. I can never tell--

is the DU wind blowing in favor or against KO today?