It's official (or Unofficial?). Clinton Wins PA by 9.2%

[helderheid]

http://www.electionreturns.state.pa.us/

2008 General Primary
Tuesday, April 22, 2008

Unofficial Returns
*** 9,264 out of 9,264 Districts (100.00%) Reporting Statewide ***

[Botany]

1. Double Digits

Nine point Two :rofl:

Hillary got 54.6% she had to get >65% to make any real cut into
Obama's lead.

[olkaz]

2. Hilarious. 9.2 does not round up to 10.0.

Man, the whole situation cracks me up.

In a firewall state, she couldn't even get a double digit lead.

[dbmk]

15. Sure it does

54.6 vs 45.4 = 55 vs 45 = 10 points. That will then be rounded up to a round 100 when she has to retell it in 8 years time.

[helderheid]

16. Uh, no. That's not how it's done. 54.6 - 45.4 = 9.2. You want to round? 9.2 rounds to 9.

[Tesha]

24. Not if you choose CEILING() rather than ROUND()!!!

But frankly, I think Hillary is headed through the FLOOR().

Tesha

[dbmk]

35. Thats totally how its done.

I mean, I am pretty sure Hillary grew up in Mathianoppolis, where her great grandfather Pythagoras taught her how to carry the remainder.
(Definately not paying it back to the creditors.)

[Barack_America]

31. You do realize that you're compounding error by doing that, right?

Oh, nevermind.

[dbmk]

34. You do realise I was mocking their use of math, right?

:)

[Coexist]

3. I am so psyched that I chose Clinton +9

how pollstery am I?

Not much of a win, I hope Obama takes NC by 12.

[MercutioATC]

23. So did I...care to compare notes on the next 2 races?

IN - Clinton by 5
NC - Obama by 13

[Coexist]

29. here's mine

IN - Clinton by 4
NC - Obama by 10

[catgirl]

4. So much for a landslide win.

[Buzz Clik]

5. No. 10%. That 10% number was critical to the Clinton campaign, so that is reality.

Get a clue.

[helderheid]

10. :)

[PseudoIntellect]

12. Why not round it up to 20, then?

[Buzz Clik]

18. For the life of me, I couldn't understand why they simply didn't call it 100%.

:shrug:

[City Lights]

6. Who will tell the press corpse?

:shrug:

[PseudoIntellect]

7. A couple of weeks ago, Hillary was behind by about 136 delegates.

Now, she's only behind by 136.

The tides are turning!

[yellowcanine]

13. Got that big MO going though.....

She is still moving in the same direction - falling short in number of delegates.
Momentum is a bad thing if it takes you over the cliff.

[Khaotic]

8. yep yep yep yep yep

Doesn't sound like a double digit win to me.

Crazy how before the election returns came in from PA that so many people were talking about how it's OVER for Hillary if she doesn't get at least a double digit win, and probably needed 15 or 20 to be more realistic.

Somehow 9.2% got turned into some kind of a blistering spanking to Obama.

A total creation of an alternate reality.

I mean, how many fucking wins did Obama have over Hillary by double digits?

The kinds of Obama wins that have taken place only take place for Hillary in her wet dreams or in Arkansas.

[helderheid]

9. Black is white. Up is down. 9.2 is a double digit spanking.

[aquarius dawning]

11. It's pretty sad when you have to fight about 8/10s of a point. Pathetic really.

9.2 is still a decisive victory. I can't wait to hear your spin on the Indiana, West Virginia, and Kentucky results and God help you if you don't win North Carolina decisively (or at all).

[helderheid]

14. 9.2 is not a decisive victory.

:rofl:

[goclark]

21. Recall their talk of a "blow out?"

He was way behind her in PA and he ran a brilliant campaign to come from behind and leave with "less than the double digits" that MSM claimed she needed to win.

Rendell did every dirty trick in the book to my people to suppress their votes in Philly.

My cousin lives there and he has been a long time activist for the Democratic party ~ he worked the polls, got out the vote, had Africsn American voters and young excited voters in long,long lines~ many missing going to work to VOTE.

He is still emailing me expressing the horrors that he saw that day.

He said Philadelphia will never forget the way that their votes were suppressed!

Lay the blame at the feet of the dirty tricksters IN the Democratic Party.

That 9.2 should be around 7.

[helderheid]

22. Thanks for the report.

:cry:

[aquarius dawning]

25. Like hell it isn't. Here, allow me to improve your vocabulary:

de·ci·sive (d-ssv)
adj.
1. Having the power to decide; conclusive.
2. Characterized by decision and firmness; resolute.
3. Beyond doubt; unmistakable: a decisive defeat.

Let's use it in a sentence now:
Hillary Clinton unmistakably and beyond any doubt won the Pennsylvania primary. It was a decisive defeat for Barack Obama but not nearly as decisive as his defeat in Kentucky and West Virginia.

[helderheid]

26. What are you smoking??

[aquarius dawning]

27. By that, I will assume you have nothing substantive left to say.

[helderheid]

32. Look, the numbers are what they are. If Clinton will win the nomination, it will be against the odds

She has to win the following primaries by HUGE margins. You are delusional. I'm sorry.

[yellowcanine]

19. Whatever. 9.2 is still not 10 no matter how much you want pin on the pathetic label.

And how pathetic is selling a 9.2% win as "double digits"? Huh?
And as far as decisive goes - only in popular votes, not in delegates won. And delegates won is what matters. If a team hits a solo home run off Mariano Rivera in the ninth inning with two outs and down by 5 runs did they score a "decisive victory?" Nope, odds are they are still going to lose.

[Kittycat]

17. I guess NJSecurlarist is going to have to switch back to Obama now.

Since 10% was the criteria for him/her to switch in the first place :rofl:

[lefty2000]

20. Cannot Argue With The Math

On CNN, they rounded the percentages to integers before differencing. During the coverage, the spread flipped back and forth between +8 and +10. It was pretty obvious all along that the correct number was closer to nine. Anyway, that is how they came up +10. If it had been just a tad closer, they would have rounded it down to 8 and you would have been happier and I would have been complaining.

Not only are the folks in the media mathematically challenged, they assume everybody is as dumb as they are, and they like to over-dramatize everything. These are the same folks who convert barrels of oil to gallons before reporting an oil spill, because five million gallons sounds like more than 100,000 barrels.

Congratulations! You held her to 9 points.

[aquarius dawning]

28. Correction lefty, they held her to 9.2 points.

:7

[suston96]

30. So sorry. I go by CNN.

http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2008/primaries/results/state/#PA

100% reporting

Clinton 1,260,444 55%
83 delegates

Obama 1,046,220 45%
73 delegates

[helderheid]

33. CNN versus the official State website. Okay Dokey!