Hope would die with Obama loss

[d00mzday]

When Kennedy was shot in 1963, I thought I would never see another leader like him in my lifetime. I was wrong. Barack Obama fills that vacuum - he combines the eloquence of Kennedy with the heart, soul and passion of the Rev. Martin Luther King Jr.
http://www.azcentral.com/arizonarepublic/opinions/articles/0429breakout291.html

[LakeSamish706]

1. Yeah, but he has big ears.. lol n/t

[oasis]

2. Those who wrap their "hope" up in any politician need to get a grip on reality. (eom)

[Maddy McCall]

3. Exactly.

Succinct and spot-on.

[niyad]

4. well said.

[northzax]

8. DING!

spot on, for any politician. I, personally, can't wait for the Obama Administration (if it comes) make the first big deal with the Republicans. I think it will probably be on Iraq, and lead to two-three more years of occupation. It's basically what he says he's going to do, if you pay attention to his history.

will they still love him?

[niyad]

11. when I posted jeremy scahill's reporting on obama's statements on staying in iraq

there was NO response from his supporters on this board. basically, his and hillary's positions are identical on this.

[northzax]

15. but their respective history is much different

Obama's whole schtick is that he is a compromiser, that he will bring the country together, listen to all sides and work out a compromise. it's what he does. no one should be surprised when this is the end result. He has told us, repeatedly, that what he will do is compromise with republicans. you think he'll fire Petreus? not a chance.

[niyad]

17. unlike many, I don't see him as some sort of demi-god, flawless and all-wise.

he is a politician, a human being with all the good and bad of any other human being. and I distrust oratory.

[movonne]

24. Yes but hillary wants to pull in Iran...and obliterate all the people in

Iran...this really scares me...I try to put ourselves in their place and if another country said that they were going to do that to us...how would you feel??

[northzax]

25. you mean the 'no option can be taken off the table' line?

that's fairly standard, really. what other potential threat do we have against Iran to get them to the bargaining table? even more sanctions?

what's the old line? Diplomacy is the art of saying 'nice doggie' while looking for a stick? honestly, without the threat of military force, how are you going to convince Iran to do anything at all? our problem is that George Bush has squandered that threat in the sands of Iraq, making it temporarily meaningless. But a new President has it back.

[SammyWinstonJack]

31. They'll blame Hillary.

:evilgrin:

[ProgressIn2008]

68. LOL, they seem so emotionally dependent on a savior, they'll find a way to justify anything!

[Cassandra]

27. Oh sure, let's not hope for better government.

Let's just accept that corruption and incompetence are a given in government and just go about our dreary little lives. Participatory democracy....feh!

:sarcasm:

[oasis]

33. Good government is what the Clinton's do. They don't just talk about it.(eom)

[Cassandra]

36. Nafta....

Telecommunications Act, no health care.
The Clintons do something; I wouldn't always call it good government.

[PBS Poll-435]

40. Then you are ignorant of history and the change that the Clinton administration actually made happen...

Too bad so many voted for Ralph Nader in 00...

[Cassandra]

79. Nader?

I voted for Gore.

[lwcon]

55. Especially a centrist who keeps throwing...

... huge portions of his base under the bus and who will stop at nothing to destroy his opponent... while selling the story that it's all the other way around.

At least he did a pretty good job of selling his story. Got a lot of DUers to buy it, that's for sure.

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[Life Long Dem]

60. I'll take my hope in Obama before Clinton any day of the week. n/t

[ProgressIn2008]

66. Jesus, no kidding, that's pathetic - what, you're waiting and hoping for a politician to save you?

Get a grip and grow up. That's not civic culture. That's a fan club.

[EnviroBat]

5. Yep, and I will make final plans to leave this country for foreign lands.

Hope it doesn't come to that.

[cliffordu]

7. If Hillary steals the nomination.....

I'll write in WRIGHT and then move to another country.

I already have the paperwork ready to go.

[DemVet]

9. Bye....

...See ya.

[cliffordu]

14. see ya.

[EnviroBat]

18. Not if I can help it.

I'll just leave you with your newly crowned republican.

[SammyWinstonJack]

29. Why wait?

:shrug:

[cliffordu]

39. I just need to see if America-corp steals another one....

Since your candidate has become Bush-lite, she likely the hired hand they will chose to do their bidding.

[PBS Poll-435]

42. Well...The "Inter-Tubes" work in other countries too.

You can pout over there...(wherever....)

[cliffordu]

48. No pouting. The country I love and bled for is being overrun

by corporate rats....I will not live among war mongering vermin.

Australia is nice. So is France. Canada is practical. I can be there in 6 hours by boat.

[PBS Poll-435]

41. Kathmandu is LOVELY this time of year. Why put off a holiday?

[cliffordu]

45. I need to be here for the riots

[PBS Poll-435]

51. Riots?

For what?

[cliffordu]

54. Electrolytes.

[PBS Poll-435]

62. A well balanced diet can give you all of the USRDA of

Salts & minerals that your body craves.....

[cliffordu]

64. I like Gatorade.

[PBS Poll-435]

69. All Sugar....

Unless you like that kind-of thing...

[cliffordu]

47. bait bait, bait....Do you have anything to add, or are you going

for your masters in baiting??

[PBS Poll-435]

50. Don't forget the sunscreen?

And don't forget to send a postcard!

:hi:

[cliffordu]

53. Look, mom, I got my very own baiter!!! Cool.

I must be getting somewhere here.

By the way - Hillary's no Bill, and apparently, neither is he, anymore.

She's a second stringer, always has been, always will be:

[PBS Poll-435]

63. *Honestly...How long were you waiting before you dropped...*

The ♥L♥ Word...

[cliffordu]

65. Are you sure you're answering me?? I am not getting it....

[PBS Poll-435]

67. Lewinsky? ---- It was your *hot-link* after all....

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♀♀♀♀♀♀♀♀♀♀♀♀♀♀♀♀♀♀♀♀♀♀♀♀♀♀♀♀♀

[cliffordu]

70. Ohh....Okay. I could have sent this one:

[PBS Poll-435]

72. Why would I want to see her ROTC photo?

:rofl::rofl:

[cliffordu]

73. That's that operation just outside Tuzla when they had to

take out the sniper....

[PBS Poll-435]

74. Good thing that they did!

Otherwise she woudn't be driving you nuts today!

[cliffordu]

75. Ya know, it's not her so much as the scumsuckers

she's aligned herself with, and the tactics they've used.

A year ago she had my vote sewn up.....no more.

And, as a veteran, the Tuzla thing was just too far....

[PBS Poll-435]

76. Well..I can't argue with your feelings...

Please extend an olive branch in the GE.

Thanks.

[cliffordu]

78. I'll try. You do the same....

:patriot:

[msmcghee]

6. That's the problem with . .

. . sanctifying politicians. There will be great disappointment when their wings melt. The only thing that spared Kennedy's wings from that final destruction was an assassin's bullet. Even so, any close look at his presidency reveals many personal and political flaws. I still consider him a damned good president and leader of all Americans in his time - when I was in my early twenties.

[BenDavid]

10. The best President in my lifetime is William Jefferson Clinton. Yes,

even with his sins, I would take him over any other past President. Obama is a staged act. I cannot understand how folks are so easily swayed by this man. When I heard him in 04 I knew then he was full of himself and a con man. Yes obama can give one hell of a speech but that is all he has got. There is no substance there, and a penny makes a lot of noise in an empty suit.

[DevonRex]

12. I agree wholeheartedly. If the nomination goes to anyone else

we'd be back to politics as usual. And that's a dream killer for sure.

[SeaLyons]

13. Obama is no Kennedy...

[housewolf]

16. And John F. Kennedy wasn't the JFK we so admire & respect today when he was alive

He won the election by one of the slimmest margins ever. He made mistakes and had many critics while in office.

The thing is, we forgot or forgave much of that after he was assassinated/martyred and through our collective grief, he took on stature, respect and admiration.

[crankychatter]

61. they never get tired of killing kennedy

resurrecting and re-assassinating him is a national passtime

I'll say this

If Nixon, Ford, Reagan and both Bush's had gotten some side action, they wouldn't have expended so much energy fucking America

[lse7581011]

44. But He's The Best We've Got!

anybody else-I'll stay home!

[mmonk]

19. It will but not in the way cynics here will attack that piece.

The hope that would die is bigger than Obama.

[jasmine621]

20. My "hope" is not dependent on a single man or woman.

We survived JFK, RFK, MLK assassinations and we can certainly survive a loss by Obama who has had less influence on any of our lives than these men. Jesse Jackson was the first to give us "hope" in a major campaign...remember "Keep hope alive?" Jesse also was the first to talk about bringing folks together..only he was talking more about bringing poor folks togeth..remember the "Rainbow Coalition?" He was roundly ridiculed and criticized yet his message far more progressive than any that Obama has demonstrated. Jesse spoke truth to power, took risks, negotiated for release of prisoners, fought for poor people in Appalacia, farmers, trash collectors... Obama is highly overrated on being something really special with the unity and hope program. He is just more acceptable to mainstsream folks because he does not offend them and allows them to be comfortable with their own prejudices.

[kenny blankenship]

21. Yes, abstract nouns like HOPE would die, but concrete things too like the Democratic Party

would also perish.

Maybe the death of hope would be a bigger loss over the long term. Short term though, the fracturing and dissolution of the Democratic Party would produce some pretty spectacular sights of Hell on Earth.

You'd think that the imperative of avoiding Party Extinction would be enough to settle everybody down and make them come together around our nominee Barack Obama and focus seriously on beating McCain and the Republicans, but somehow you'd be mistaken.

[Jed Dilligan]

22. I don't have a lot of hope right now,

but we need a leader who is both a great speaker and a great listener to guide us through the crises ahead.

The leadership of Hillary Clinton will make the real world look like GDP.

[Chalco]

23. Did you forget to take your Prozac? nt

[stellanoir]

26. ". . . The thought that life could be better is woven indelibly into our hearts. . .

. . . and our brains. . ." Paul Simon

[JohnnyBoots]

28. The assasin in this day and age is the MSM ...........n/t

[Hoof Hearted]

30. from d00mzday! LOL. Could you be a little less obvious?

BO-polar disorder: when suddenly things which just last week were unspeakably awful are now the BEST THING EVER, cause Obama said so. Like Ronald Reagan, and healthcare plans that leave people uninsured.

[CADEMOCRAT7]

32. There is something very rare and special about Obama

He inspired me to participate in the political process again after what happened with Gore.
He inspired me to look within and take action and to ask myself, "am I doing all I can to be of service to make a difference in my community". He motivates people to take positive action. He has this ability, and that is a rare and special gift.
I do not know what his presidency will be like, and I know I have a lot of positive projections on him that may or may not turn out to be true.
One last note, the extraordinary and eloquent speech he gave on race will go down in the history books, and is being taught world wide right now. Around the world, people are watching and are excited about this election, and they are pro Obama. We have had more enthusiasm and voter registration. In so many ways, he has already been a positive beacon. I applaud him exuberantly.

[SoCalDem]

34. We would just have to endure President McCain

:(

The younger and newly-inspired people would just go back to doing what they have done before.. drop out of the whole slimy process..

[Swamp Rat]

71. If they aren't drafted to go fight in Iran.

[NashVegas]

35. Dude, Hope Died At About 1pm Central Today

When your hero showed the spine of a jellyfish.

[shaniqua6392]

37. Good grief.

That is a bit dramatic. You are equating Obama to Kennedy and MLK? Don't you think Obama has a lot more to do to even come close? Obama is no Martin Luther King. If Obama loses it will not be the end of America. We have survived Bush and we will survive anything.

[Yes We Did]

38. We must tell all to stop paying attention to the media and pour more positive attention on Obama

[FlyingSquirrel]

43. Please don't remind me

I have this near-constant dread that Obama will be assassinated.

[NJSecularist]

46. I served with Jack Kennedy. I knew Jack Kennedy. Jack Kennedy was a friend of mine.

Barack Obama is no Jack Kennedy.

[rug]

49. Never mind hope, all carbon-based life forms will cease to exist.

[Catchawave]

52. Since your profile is disabled, no donor star, well under 100 posts....

Welcome to DU :toast:

[lwcon]

56. Do you have a Yellow Pages handy?

See if there are any local listings for "Deprogrammers."

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[Bluerthanblue]

57. my hope would- our nation would be the lesser without him as

the next POTUS.

But we seem addicted to suffering- :shrug:

[Neshanic]

58. Buy stock in pharmaceuticals.

[SemiCharmedQuark]

59. "Young people should vote! Minorities should vote! Ohh, you voted wrong, sorry"

"Good things these superdelegates are here to fix it for you. Thanks anyway."

[shayes51]

77. Hope springs eternal.

Cheer up.