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sunonmars Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 01:39 PM
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Obama just looked beaten and humiliated there - What a climbdown

Give up and go home.

I feel sorry for him, that was just humiliating to do.
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MNDemNY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 01:40 PM
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1. Can't wait for the "Good Reverend's " response.
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Hoof Hearted Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 01:40 PM
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2. He looked shaken, he looked weak.
I don't feel that sorry for him.
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livetohike Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 01:40 PM
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3. Guess everyone sees what they want to see I saw our
next President looking Presidential :-).
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BootinUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 01:40 PM
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4. details for us cube rats?
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oviedodem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 01:41 PM
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5. Are you stupid??? He just gave a spirited town hall about an hour ago.
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CakeGrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 01:45 PM
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23. Those are Clinton supporters, wishing and hoping for the WORST. nt
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Pisces Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 01:46 PM
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More like fucking stupid. Of course Obama was torn about having to split from Wright.
It is just like discovering your dad is a racist when all your life he taught you to treat everyone the same. You would feel betrayed and blindsided and sickened.
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rainy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 01:41 PM
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6. Why should he give up? So many people have vowed to support
him, given him money etc.. We should never let the bullies win. They do this to us over and over again. Now we have the internet to keep us going and staying on tract.
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DJ13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 01:41 PM
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7. He looked vulnerable, and if the MSM continues attacking him it will backfire
Think of this as Obama's version of Hillary tearing up in NH.

The voters will feel empathy for him now.
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SoonerPride Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 01:41 PM
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8. Huh. I thought he liked like the next President.
We already know he's the nominee.

Someone indeed needs to give up.

and that ain't Obama.
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LSparkle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 01:42 PM
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9. As humiliating as having your husband get a blowjob in the Oval Office -- not from YOU?
Obama was not humiliated -- he was righteously INDIGNANT at the
BETRAYAL of a friend. As Bob Herbert wrote today, "Jeremiah
Wright didn't come to praise Barack Obama; he came to BURY HIM"
and Obama cut him off, as well he should have.
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ampad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 02:03 PM
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38. And her supporters took that blow job
and used it as a rallying cry that she deserves this nomination, that she is a strong woman. What the fuck ever.
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tridim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 01:42 PM
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10. Give up? He already has the nomination.
Why the fuck would he give up?

I'm sure Obama is upset that he had to do this, but it's not like he had a choice. Hillary, the GOP and the media made sure of that.
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godai Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 01:43 PM
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12. Give up and go home?? Wishing thinking on your part.
You need to accept that Clinton will lose the nomination. She can continue to try to damage Obama in the meantime, at the risk of her legacy, but she can't win the nomination.
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SeaLyons Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 01:44 PM
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13. The Reverend will be doing the dozens
on Obama for real now.
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jefferson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 01:44 PM
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14. You wanna talk about humiliation?
Good evening.

This afternoon in this room, from this chair, I testified before the Office of Independent Counsel and the grand jury.

I answered their questions truthfully, including questions about my private life, questions no American citizen would ever want to answer.

Still, I must take complete responsibility for all my actions, both public and private. And that is why I am speaking to you tonight.

As you know, in a deposition in January, I was asked questions about my relationship with Monica Lewinsky. While my answers were legally accurate, I did not volunteer information.

Indeed, I did have a relationship with Ms. Lewinsky that was not appropriate. In fact, it was wrong. It constituted a critical lapse in judgment and a personal failure on my part for which I am solely and completely responsible.

But I told the grand jury today and I say to you now that at no time did I ask anyone to lie, to hide or destroy evidence or to take any other unlawful action.

I know that my public comments and my silence about this matter gave a false impression. I misled people, including even my wife. I deeply regret that.

I can only tell you I was motivated by many factors. First, by a desire to protect myself from the embarrassment of my own conduct.

I was also very concerned about protecting my family. The fact that these questions were being asked in a politically inspired lawsuit, which has since been dismissed, was a consideration, too.

In addition, I had real and serious concerns about an independent counsel investigation that began with private business dealings 20 years ago � dealings, I might add, about which an independent federal agency found no evidence of any wrongdoing by me or my wife over two years ago.

The independent counsel investigation moved on to my staff and friends, then into my private life. And now the investigation itself is under investigation.

This has gone on too long, cost too much and hurt too many innocent people.

Now, this matter is between me, the two people I love most � my wife and our daughter � and our God. I must put it right, and I am prepared to do whatever it takes to do so.

Nothing is more important to me personally. But it is private, and I intend to reclaim my family life for my family. It�s nobody�s business but ours.

Even presidents have private lives. It is time to stop the pursuit of personal destruction and the prying into private lives and get on with our national life.

Our country has been distracted by this matter for too long, and I take my responsibility for my part in all of this. That is all I can do.

Now it is time � in fact, it is past time � to move on.

We have important work to do � real opportunities to seize, real problems to solve, real security matters to face.

And so tonight, I ask you to turn away from the spectacle of the past seven months, to repair the fabric of our national discourse, and to return our attention to all the challenges and all the promise of the next American century.

Thank you for watching. And good night.

President Bill Clinton - August 17, 1998

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lJ1Z9Yw-VUg
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islandmkl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 01:48 PM
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26. yeah, well....he meant it at the time...
"...and hillary has a little election she is trying to win, so you know what?

i figure i paid my dues...so....GAME ON!!"

it worked on me, it'll work on Obama...
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bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 01:44 PM
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15. maybe his look was pure disappointment in how the media
Edited on Tue Apr-29-08 01:45 PM by alyce douglas
continues to divide this country and people, like we need more dividing. Just more distractions, like there are not other things to focus on. This country is in a crisis. Can we grown up please?
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Mezzo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 01:44 PM
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16. I think he looks tired.
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LakeSamish706 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 01:44 PM
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17. Of course this hurt him, personally more than anything... It was the last thing..
in the world that he wanted to be faced with, but he knew he had to do it....
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thevoiceofreason Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 01:44 PM
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18. We're gonna drink your milkshake. We are drinking your milkshake!
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RaleighNCDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 02:22 PM
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41. What's the "milkshake" reference?
(I guess I'm out of touch.)
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CakeGrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 04:28 PM
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53. It's from "There Will Be Blood"
It's a line by the big oil baron Daniel Plainview, played by Daniel Day-Lewis, explaining how he's going to take over another oil field.
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ecstatic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 01:45 PM
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19. No, what you saw was a man who was heartbroken
He did not want to break up with his pastor. But his pastor betrayed him yesterday and he had to do it. Maybe he could have waited until he was less emotional, but I support Obama 100% in his decisions.
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 01:45 PM
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20. He's winning, genius.
I know hillbots don't have the mental capacity to grasp that obvious fact, but it's as true today as it was yesterday.

I pity you hillbots in denialville.
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BeyondGeography Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 01:45 PM
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21. "Give up and go home."
Words for you to live by.
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SeattleGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 01:45 PM
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22. You wish.
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azmouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 01:46 PM
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24. Things worth knowing about Hillary.
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Eurobabe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 01:48 PM
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25. I think your sun is up uranus. n/t
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butterfly77 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 01:49 PM
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27. He explained his feelings about the situation
Edited on Tue Apr-29-08 01:53 PM by butterfly77
thoroughly,and it will still not be enough for some people Tweety and Buchanan are spinning it now. Buchanan is trying to portray this as if now he is losing, Haa, and Tweety is trying to portray it as some type of family feud.

Obama put it to rest and basically said don't ask me this anymore. Goooooooooobama!
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DefenseLawyer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 01:50 PM
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28. I think I just changed my position on drug testing in the workplace. n/t
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Lucky 13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 01:51 PM
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29. Show's over, folks. Nothing more to see here.
This scandal is near it's end, Obama's speech signals the end of this news cycle.

Karma tells me it's going to be Hillary's turn for scandal or controversy in just a few days.

:)
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SOS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 03:25 PM
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50. Hopefully Frank Giustra and Norman Hsu
will give speeches at the National Press Club this week.
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Innocent Smith Donating Member (466 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 01:56 PM
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30. He looked like he was betrayed by a friend
In other words -- he looked human. And he sounded good.
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EnviroBat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 02:01 PM
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35. Yep. Our next president is a man with human emotions.
Not some cackling robot to be paraded about by the RW media, and the republicans. Obama did great.
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uponit7771 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 01:57 PM
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31. I fuckin dislike the MsM a lot now. He looked geniuly hurt in that conference
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BlackVelvet04 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 01:58 PM
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32. he was just doing what politicians do....
throwing under the bus someone who has become a liability.

He's no different than any other politician despite his mantra of change.

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bigwillq Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 01:59 PM
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33. It was a speech that looked
like it was a very difficult one to make. Obama probably feels betrayed by a former friend, and his body language portrayed just that.
A speech like that is a difficult one to make, and I think Obama did fine.
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 02:00 PM
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34. Thanks for you "concern".
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Armstead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 02:01 PM
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36. Obama showed something unusual in politics -- - Dignity
Edited on Tue Apr-29-08 02:02 PM by Armstead
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NoodleyAppendage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 02:03 PM
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37. Somewhere a Freeper is missing his crew...time to return to your little hole, troll. n/t
J
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Maribelle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 02:17 PM
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39. Uncharacteristically emotional off camera is how Obama is being described.
And what is amazing to me, what Obama has just said is the direct opposite of what Obama's supporters have been chanting almost in unison and certainly relentlessly here on DU. There seems to be quite a disconnect between Obama and many of his supporters here.

Jeralyn was doing a great job once again live blogging ...
http://www.talkleft.com/story/2008/4/29/14443/5382
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flpoljunkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 02:21 PM
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40. Sure you do! What drivel!
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Maribelle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 02:23 PM
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42. What you need to realize is that Obama just contradicted most of his followers on DU
Perhaps some should spend a little time to sort this all out.
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Window Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 02:48 PM
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46. Are you in agreement 100% with Hilliary??? Especially when she lies about Bosnia, etc.??
It's a good thing Hillary and McCain are not held to the same standards as Sen. Obama, isn't it.

Sen. Obama is the one running for office, he did what he felt he had to do, and that decision is between him and the God he prays to. Not you, not me, not his haters nor his supporters. Period.

I trust him to make the right decision, whether or not I agree with it. In fact, I applaud the sincerity of Sen. Obama.

I agree with a lot of things I've heard Rev. Wright say...not all...but a lot. I'm sure this was a very difficult thing for Sen. Obama to have to do.

This is a sad, evil world we live in.
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Maribelle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 02:55 PM
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47. I now think I trust Obama more than I trust his supporters here on DU.
And you've missed the point.
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Window Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 03:22 PM
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49. Sorry I missed your point, but I'm one of Sen. Obama's supporters on DU,
and I agree with what he did for all the reasons I stated. I don't know what other point you were trying to make.
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flpoljunkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 03:56 PM
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51. Bullsh*t!
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Apollo11 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 02:24 PM
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43. "My Pastor for the past 20 years shares none of my basic beliefs. Who knew?"
I guess the Obama campaign thinks it is a slam-dunk case, and their candidate hit the ball out of the park by severing his ties with Wright.

Obama knows it's a weak case, and that's why he looked real nervous and hesitant answering questions from the press less than one hour ago.
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zulchzulu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 02:27 PM
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44. That's funny...he looked forceful and presidential...
...and pissed that Wright was trying to fuck with him.

Although I agree with a lot of what Wright says (sans the usual cherry-picked YouTube loopy loops), he stepped in it when he made the AIDS and the Farrakkan statements... Obama had to firmly state that their relationship has changed.

And as of now, any of the cretins that want to play "Link Wright to Obama" have jackshit to stand on.

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Window Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 02:30 PM
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45. Save your pity for Hillary when she "gives up and goes home," she'll need it.
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dionysus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 03:14 PM
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48. delusion.. it's what's for dinner....
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nichomachus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 04:24 PM
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52. Did he look this bad?
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Doityourself Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 04:29 PM
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54. Still got my vote and that of many others I know. He's not going home..just live with it.
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