My thoughts on Obama and Wright - read if you dare. Recommend if you like it.

[Hawkeye-X]

Here is my thoughts on it.

When Wright came on the Moyers and the NPC, he was there for one purpose, and one purpose only - to talk about himself. Wright had his 15 minute of fame about a month and a half ago, and Obama stepped away from him because of a few fiery remarks made about 20 years ago. Unfortunately, Wright opened his mouth again at a event that was sponsored by a Clinton supporter - now I'm thinking - why the hell would Wright be in a place full of Clinton people? SO I'm thinking he's getting paid to make a speech trashing Obama, and he is now exposed as the true hypocrite he is.

Obama got very angry, so angry at Wright, that he had to call for a press conference defending himself and completely sever (or at least I think he did) himself from Wright. I think Obama did the right thing and put the kibosh on it - but the problem is the M$M won't stop talking about it, and because they have nothing new to add. That should also help Obama be completely aware that without the Fairness Doctrine, there is really nothing he can do about it - but if he is elected, he'll definetely put the kibosh on tabloid-style news reporting that we have had to endure since Fairness Doctrine was eliminated entirely when Bill J. Clinton signed the Telecommunications Act of 1996 into law. That's 12 years of total bullshit that we had to live through. Both radio and TV and newspapers.

I think Obama will win this fight and definitely win the war on the media. It won't be pretty but I think Obama will get it done.

Hawkeye-X

[EFerrari]

1. The only problem is that Wright did not trash Obama. n/t

/oops

[jkshaw]

2. Yes, he did.

Review the video.

[EFerrari]

6. I've watched each event multiple times. n/t

[Cali_Democrat]

16. You are correct

Wright never trashed Obama. He simply spoke the truth, something that many Americans aren't ready for.

[Apollo11]

8. He said Obama is just another politician who will say anything to get elected

Those were not the exact words he used but it was directly implied by what he said.

[EFerrari]

10. Did he say he was "just another politician"? I don't remember him saying that.

He did use the word "politician" and he did bring up "electability" but I don't remember him disparaging Obama. Maybe his mistake was to comment at all. When he was asked about Bill Clinton's SC remarks, he said he didn't think anything about them because he was a pastor.

[Texas Hill Country]

13. he said that Obama was a politician and said what politicians have to say... the implication of

which is that Obama really agrees with him, but has to moderate what he says to get elected...


translation: he is lying and pandering to get elected.

[Cali_Democrat]

17. That translation is yours and it's bogus. Also, when when did Obama stop being a politician?

:shrug:

Of course he is a politician, he's running for President of the USA.

[truedelphi]

21. Maybe we have been sharing a brain lately - but I haven't sen Wright

Trashing Obama.

And I was really plesed that I could spend Easter Morning with streaming video
that let me attend Trinity United Church in Chicago.

If Obama attends that church - even occasionally - then he has my vote.

I was swept away by the sermon (Different pastor than Wright though) the dancing, the chorale group, the sense of comunity.

We could do a lot worse than have someone who attended this Church lead our country.

[EFerrari]

23. Wright was careful not to trash Obama and not to comment on the

campaign and not to comment on Bill Clinton and so on.

And the more I think about it, the more reasonable it seems to me that Wright was trying to draw fire to himself. Because he was sort of provocative during the Q&A at the Press Club -- and you don't get to his position by being an out of control narcissistic windbag, although you may be able to play one on teevee. :tinfoilhat:

:)

[truedelphi]

26. You Say: although you may be able to play one on teevee.

Made me laugh OL!

[rug]

22. He spoke the truth.

[anigbrowl]

19. I'm with you on this, and I'm going to quote the bible to make my point.

As it happens, I'm not a Christian, but since Wright is a minister I feel it's an appropriate comparison.

This is from Chapter 27 of the Gospel of Matthew.

27 Then the soldiers of the governor took Jesus into the Praetorium and gathered the whole garrison around Him.
28 And they stripped Him and put a scarlet robe on Him.
29 When they had twisted a crown of thorns, they put it on His head, and a reed in His right hand. And they bowed the knee before Him and mocked Him, saying, "Hail, King of the Jews!"
30 Then they spat on Him, and took the reed and struck Him on the head.
31 And when they had mocked Him, they took the robe off Him, put His own clothes on Him, and led Him away to be crucified.

You don't have to be a religious person to observe that human beings have a pattern of being cruel to each other.

[EFerrari]

20. The situation is reminiscent of Hal disavowing Falstaff.

"I know Thee not, old man. Fall to thy prayers."

[Avalux]

3. I've been reading your posts for a long time...

way before this primary. I agree with what you've said 100%. Obama WILL win this fight, win the primary and win the presidency. He has a resolve that will carry him through. :hi:

[Demit]

4. When people go on talk programs, they are there to talk about themselves. That's the point.

I found that an enlightening interview, as are all Bill Moyers' interviews. I'm wondering if you saw it. It was probably the only venue for seeing the sermons at length that the stations took snippets of. Very enlightening to see those remarks in actual context of what the sermons were about. If Obama feels he needs to distance himself for damage control I can understand that, but I don't mind Wright "opening his mouth". In fact I think he should. We all might learn something.

I think the idea he's being paid to "trash Obama" extremely fanciful thinking.

[Raven]

5. You have always made good sense to me. This post is like a

breath of fresh air and a dose of common sense. You made my day!

[madmom]

7. I know everyone like piling on the Clintons now but...

.

"In August 1987, the FCC abolished the doctrine by a 4-0 vote, in the Syracuse Peace Council decision. The FCC stated, "the intrusion by government into the content of programming occasioned by the enforcement of restricts the journalistic freedom of broadcasters ... actually inhibits the presentation of controversial issues of public importance to the detriment of the public and the degradation of the editorial prerogative of broadcast journalists," and suggested that, due to the many media voices in the marketplace, the doctrine be deemed unconstitutional.

In June 1987, Congress had attempted to preempt the FCC decision and codify the Fairness Doctrine (S. 742, 100th Cong., 1st Sess. (1987)), but the legislation was vetoed by President Ronald Reagan. Another attempt to revive the doctrine in 1991 ran out of steam when President George H.W. Bush threatened another veto."

From wikipedia

Contrary to what some believe the Clintons are not omnipotent.

[rucky]

9. Wright is not the enemy.

Cable News.


FOCUS

[Perry Logan]

11. In a way, Wright did Obama a favor, enabling Obama to say "OK, I now break with this guy."

[elfin]

12. Yes, you echo Bob Herbert's op ed in today's Times

When I read it, I said Amen! BTW, he is Black.

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/04/29/opinion/29herbert.html?_r=1&hp&oref=slogin

Snip


The Rev. Jeremiah Wright went to Washington on Monday not to praise Barack Obama, but to bury him.

Smiling, cracking corny jokes, mugging it up for the big-time news media — this reverend is never going away. He’s found himself a national platform, and he’s loving it.

It’s a twofer. Feeling dissed by Senator Obama, Mr. Wright gets revenge on his former follower while bathed in a spotlight brighter than any he could ever have imagined. He’s living a narcissist’s dream. At long last, his 15 minutes have arrived.

snip...

The thing to keep in mind about Rev. Wright is that he is a smart fellow. He’s been a very savvy operator, politically and otherwise, for decades. He has built a thriving, politically connected congregation on the South Side of Chicago that has done some very good work over the years. Powerful people have turned to him for guidance and advice.

So it’s not like he’s naïve politically. He knows exactly what he’s doing. Forget the gibberish about responding to attacks on the black church. That is not what the reverend’s appearance before the press club was about. He was responding to what he perceives as an attack on him.

[MadBadger]

14. It was the National Press Club. I didnt see it. Maybe thats why I defended Wright.

[JerseygirlCT]

24. Love your picture

And the same here. I did listen to the NAACP speech, and liked it.

But from what I've been hearing about the NPC speech... that seems another sort of thing altogether. And any way you cut it, doing that is selfish of him. If he did support and care for Obama, why did he feel the need to do that now?

I imagine Obama finally came to a realization that the only control he has over the whole situation vis a vis Wright is to cut him loose. He's going to do what he does, but Obama can't let that be a drag on him and his aspirations any longer.

Could certainly be cast in psychological terms - son coming of age, breaking from the father, etc. But whatever else, I think he's got to be his own person and insist on being judged for his own words and actions.

[MadBadger]

15. SCUMBOROUGH Said Obama did A GREAT JOB!!! That means he did well!

Cuz hes a fucking idiot.

[high density]

18. Obama did what had to be done

It was obvious that after Wright's performances at the National Press Club and NAACP that the media was primed for the second act on this attack of Obama. In a perfect world, Obama could've just ignored it and it would have gone away. But his campaign knows very well that in this is the world of cable "news," ignoring stuff just doesn't work. I think Obama's response was proper and necessary.

Wright's interview with Moyers was fascinating. The events beyond that just were not.

[TexasLady]

25. my thoughts are somewhat different, but not by much

I am just glad that we got to see Obama not take crap about the so called 'issue that is Wright'. Good job, stupid damned MSM.

[PurityOfEssence]

27. Ah, the joys of religion

What a mess.

Wright's ego is so huge he even says he's been running for Jesus for many, many years. (Someone might point out that the part's been filled...)

Obama did very well yesterday, but the lingering question will remain: how did he not see the danger of this for 20 years?

Ridiculing the way white people worship Jesus--as he did in Detroit in a stunning moment of satire--is no way to make friends. Gaining acceptance for one's sub-culture is one thing; pulling for it being judged superior is quite another, and flat-out idiotic when outnumbered seven to one in a pluralist society.

Obama's made great hay out of playing the religion card and it seemed to be the cosmic trump card that it often is in the rest of society, but he got a bit singed for it in South Carolina (even if he REALLY got away with it) and got a real body blow here.