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Maddy McCall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 05:44 PM
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It's not like Obama didn't know this Wright moment was coming. They discussed it in April 2007.
Also, this isn't the first bit of friction between Wright and Obama over Obama snubbing him. Read on:

From a CBS Op-Ed today:

In a New York Times profile of the Obama-Wright relationship in April 2007, Wright himself predicted such a split based on the controversial remarks that were already under some scrutiny. “If Barack gets past the primary, he might have to publicly distance himself from me,” Wright told the paper over a year ago. “I said it to Barack personally, and he said yeah, that might have to happen.”



http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/04/29/politics/main4056166.shtml


Here's the original New York Times article from which the quotation above was taken:


Mr. Obama, a Democratic presidential candidate who says he was only shielding his pastor from the spotlight, said he respected Mr. Wright’s work for the poor and his fight against injustice. But “we don’t agree on everything,” Mr. Obama said. “I’ve never had a thorough conversation with him about all aspects of politics.”

It is hard to imagine, though, how Mr. Obama can truly distance himself from Mr. Wright. The Christianity that Mr. Obama adopted at Trinity has infused not only his life, but also his campaign. He began his presidential announcement with the phrase “Giving all praise and honor to God,” a salutation common in the black church. He titled his second book, “The Audacity of Hope,” after one of Mr. Wright’s sermons, and often talks about biblical underdogs, the mutual interests of religious and secular America, and the centrality of faith in public life.

The day after the party for Mr. Wright, Mr. Obama stood in an A.M.E. church pulpit in Selma, Ala., and cast his candidacy in nothing short of biblical terms, implicitly comparing himself to Joshua, known for his relative inexperience, steadfast faith and completion of Moses’ mission of delivering his people to the Promised Land.

“Be strong and have courage, for I am with you wherever you go,” Mr. Obama said in paraphrasing God’s message to Joshua.






It is difficult to tell whether Mr. Obama’s religious and political beliefs are fused or simply run parallel. The junior senator from Illinois often talks of faith as a moral force essential for solving America’s vexing problems. Like Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton of New York and John Edwards, his fellow Democratic candidates, he expresses both a political and a religious obligation to help the downtrodden. Like conservative Christians, he speaks of AIDS as a moral crisis. And like his pastor, Mr. Obama opposes the Iraq war.

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In an interview in March in his office, filled with mementos from his 35 years at Trinity, Mr. Wright recalled his first encounters with Mr. Obama in the late 1980s, when the future senator was organizing Chicago neighborhoods. Though minister after minister told Mr. Obama he would be more credible if he joined a church, he was not a believer.

“I remained a reluctant skeptic, doubtful of my own motives, wary of expedient conversion, having too many quarrels with God to accept a salvation too easily won,” he wrote in his first book, “Dreams From My Father.”

Still, Mr. Obama was entranced by Mr. Wright, whose sermons fused analysis of the Bible with outrage at what he saw as the racism of everything from daily life in Chicago to American foreign policy. Mr. Obama had never met a minister who made pilgrimages to Africa, welcomed women leaders and gay members and crooned Teddy Pendergrass rhythm and blues from the pulpit. Mr. Wright was making Trinity a social force, initiating day care, drug counseling, legal aid and tutoring. He was also interested in the world beyond his own; in 1984, he traveled to Cuba to teach Christians about the value of nonviolent protest and to Libya to visit Col. Muammar el-Qaddafi, along with the Nation of Islam leader Louis Farrakhan. Mr. Wright said his visits implied no endorsement of their views.

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He has said that he relies on Mr. Wright to ensure “that I am speaking as truthfully about what I believe as possible.” He tends to turn to his minister at moments of frustration, Mr. Wright said, such as when Mr. Obama felt a Congressional Black Caucus meeting was heavier on entertainment than substance.

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In March, Mr. Wright said in an interview that his family and some close associates were angry about the canceled address, for which they blamed Obama campaign advisers but that the situation was “not irreparable,” adding, “Several things need to happen to fix it.”

Asked if he and Mr. Wright had patched up their differences, Mr. Obama said: “Those are conversations between me and my pastor.”

Mr. Wright, who has long prided himself on criticizing the establishment, said he knew that he may not play well in Mr. Obama’s audition for the ultimate establishment job.

“If Barack gets past the primary, he might have to publicly distance himself from me,” Mr. Wright said with a shrug. “I said it to Barack personally, and he said yeah, that might have to happen.”

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/04/30/us/politics/30obama.html?pagewanted=1&_r=1
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virtualobserver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 05:46 PM
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1. whatever
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bunnies Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 05:51 PM
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2. word. nt
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LSparkle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 05:52 PM
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3. THIS IS NOT NEWS ... Wright does not speak for the campaign
Move on for Pete's sake.
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rug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 07:01 PM
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23. Wright is news because Obama called a press conference to discuss Wright.
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MonkeyFunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 07:13 PM
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25. I'm pretty sure it IS news
I've been watching it.
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LSparkle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 08:10 PM
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32. Just cuz you saw it on the teevee doesn't mean it's REALLY news
it's just the suckola MSM fucking your brain into thinking
it's news.

Rev. Wright is NOT a spokesman for Obama. He has freedom
of speech and can use it, but there are no links remaining
between him and the campaign. Wright can be as bombastic
and outrageous as he likes from here on out, but he should
receive no more coverage than any other American idiot
shooting off his mouth.
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MonkeyFunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 08:20 PM
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33. No, there are no links between them today
that doesn't erase the 20 year history they have.

As much as you guys would like to think this is nothing, it's a real story.
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Oleladylib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 05:53 PM
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4. Such a farce...if that's the best Baby Bam can do with outrage...
he needs anger classes.
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DerekJ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 05:54 PM
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5. You haven't answered, what's your problem with Wright the man himself to warrant all your hate to
him.
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Maddy McCall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 05:57 PM
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6. I dig Reverend Wright.
I don't like some of what he's said in the past, but as a man I dig him.

I hate seeing Obama pushing this father figure of his away. I don't blame Wright for being angry.

This isn't the first time that Obama has snubbed his spiritual mentor. Wright's anger with Obama is understandable.

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Joe the Revelator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 06:00 PM
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10. Ah, so now you guys are mad that he did what you demanded and denounced him
If this is a joke, I'm not laughing.
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Maddy McCall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 06:03 PM
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14. Hardly.
I'm not a "you guys."

I'm me. I speak for myself.

I dig Reverend Wright. I don't like what he said about AIDS, but I can understand what shaped his views.

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cliffordu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-30-08 01:23 AM
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37. AW, Maddy...
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democracy1st Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 06:01 PM
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11. F..k Wright
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Armstead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 06:51 PM
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18. Of course you dig him -- Look at how his antics have helped Hillary
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NashVegas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 07:23 PM
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29. I Don't Care for the Sound Bites
That made it to the news the first time around. Those were done for show and I'm not into it. He really impressed me on Moyers.
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 05:58 PM
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7. It's not like Hillary didn't know they were going to have caucuses
she went through it with her husband right?


So who was better prepared from day one?
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ClericJohnPreston Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 05:59 PM
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8. Enough of this nonsense already
The wheels are so predictably off the Obama Bus. How many liberal icons have to be surrendered to this moderate? He is willing to throw everyone and anyone under his bus, for POLITICAL EXPEDIENCE! His two-faced affection on display in his savaging by Wright, both praised and vilified by the cult, depending on the day.

His numbers are dropping like a rock and only Hillary beats McCain. Obama is more obedient than my dog when it comes to following the mandates of the Corporatacracy. Let someone else deal with the fleas.

Go Hillary!
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chimpymustgo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 06:06 PM
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15. Great post as always, Cleric.
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Armstead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 06:53 PM
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19. Does anyone meet your demands for perfection?
Just wondering...
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ClericJohnPreston Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 08:58 PM
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34. John Edwards
and then Hillary, because she is so reviled by the Right, and because Obama panders to them. Just answerin....
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Armstead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 11:45 PM
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35. I wouldn;t call Edwards poerfect, but he was damn good....
as for Hillary, I look for a little more than someone who is reviled by the right as qualifications. The right doesn't revile her on any substantive grounds....They just don't like the Clintons for personal reasons-- but it's certainly not their economic policies that piss them off.
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jonestonesusa Donating Member (630 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 07:33 PM
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30. So your definition of liberal is a positive vote on the IWR
as in Hillary Clinton, that great populist repudiator of special interests?
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Raine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 06:00 PM
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9. I'll be interested in
seeing if Wright will say anything in response.
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Maddy McCall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 06:49 PM
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16. I'd bet that he will.
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 06:02 PM
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12. Keep shoppin it, maddy!
The voters can't get enough WRIGHTAPALOOZA!

They love it!
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MonkeyFunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 07:16 PM
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26. LOL
The faction that is STILL talking about Monica Lewinsky likes to pretend that Wright is old news.

:rofl:
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Shakespeare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 06:02 PM
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13. No, we really didn't. Not until Wright started his posturing and sneering yesterday.
Edited on Tue Apr-29-08 06:03 PM by Shakespeare
Yesterday, particularly, was a direct challenge/threat to Obama. It was all ego. Prior to yesterday, I think Wright got a bad rap (and still do), because those were good sermons taken almost completely out of context. There are very few people here who wouldn't agree with what he preached in the past (when heard IN CONTEXT).

Yesterday was different. Yesterday, Wright made this all about him, and HIS insistence to be center stage. It was a disgusting display of ego, and I think Obama has handled this about as well as anyone could.
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ecstatic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 06:50 PM
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17. Barack has divorced Wright. Get over it!
Clinton needs to pack her bags and go home now.
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Maddy McCall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 06:55 PM
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21. Your moniker describes your feelings, doesn't it?
Thus, the acting out.

It's ok...we'll all be here to help you deal with the disappointment that will set in around June 1.

:hug:
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ShortnFiery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 06:55 PM
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20. Another bright and shiny post by Ms. Maddy.
Edited on Tue Apr-29-08 06:56 PM by ShortnFiery
You folks are going to have to "mix up" topic intent a little more, aye?

Don't cha agree that meeting like this is becoming tedious?

... waiting on the kidney punch of a personal vice political nature. ;)
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MonkeyFunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 07:18 PM
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28. The absolute irony
of a Clinton cocksniffer pretending that this is old, played out news is just delicious.
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ShortnFiery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-30-08 01:20 AM
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36. Too Cool! I'm now labeled as "a Clinton cocksniffer" ... even classier than I could have imagined.
You do your heroine, The Goddess of M.E. OBLITERATION proud with the thoughtful prose above. :crazy:
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xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 06:58 PM
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22. recommend
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Political Heretic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 07:02 PM
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24. Bleh.
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 07:17 PM
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27. Devil in a stained blue dress.
hee hee! :D


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kwenu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 07:35 PM
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31. WHO DOES REV. WRIGHT SUPPORT IN THIS ELECTION? The media hasn't asked. WHY NOT?
Edited on Tue Apr-29-08 07:36 PM by kwenu
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