How many former Obama supporters have switched to Clinton?

[davhill]

Have enough changed sides, particularly in the states with remaining primaries, to give her a sweep of pledged delegates now? Or do the Clinton supporters still expect the super-delegates to override the pledged delegates regardless of this will do to the party?

[democrattotheend]

1. Not me

Never!

[SunsetDreams]

2. I can speak for myself, I will never switch to Clinton

[Rockholm]

61. And if she is the nominee?

What are you going to do? Vote for McSame?

[msallied]

3. It seems like the current has only been flowing one way in this election...

From Clinton to Obama... Hence her increasingly negative (and losing) campaign. And the people who go for neither candidate are ones who are so disgusted they don't even want to vote, or they just opt to go 3rd party.

[redqueen]

4. Have ANY?

I mean... I know of one person *here* who did... but superdelegates?

[grantcart]

12. No SDs have switched Obama to Clinton

a number of Clinton SDs have indicated that they will vote for the leader of the pledged delegates and would therefore switch.

[newmajority]

5. Satan will own a NHL hockey franchise in Hell before I vote for a Clinton

I don't care if it's fucking George Clinton. I still won't vote for him.

[Doityourself]

24. Ha Ha..make my funk the Pfunk baby...count me in..

[cliffordu]

52. Now, now now......George Clinton might be OK...

:rofl:

[newmajority]

I'm sure he would be

But I'm not taking any chances of Hillary going to the Supreme KKKourt and claiming the votes were hers.

[Blarch]

6. You act as if Obama is tanking ...

and hillary is taking over.

Maybe in your world ...but in reality, it's fucking over...has been for awhile.

[davhill]

18. I still support him

But the Clinton supporters here act as if there is a huge groundswell in their direction. Are they that deep in denial?

[livingmadness]

25. Yep, they're in their canoes

and paddling hell for leather up that beautiful river in Africa ;)

[Mooney]

26. Yes, they are.

A rational assessment of the facts would lead anybody to conclude that she was pretty much shut out in February. Everything that's happened since then has basically been Hillary making a lot of noise.

[Window]

41. Most of them are batty as hell.

[panader0]

7. Not a changer here.

I could never understand polls that show support going up and down. Especially the one about bush's approval ratings. Even after 9/11 when bush's rating was near 90%, I still hated him for Florida. Make up your mind based on research and fact-checking and stick with it.

[southern_belle]

8. No way - not me!

GOBAMA!!!

[EmperorHasNoClothes]

9. If any have, it won't be enougth

She needs 70% in every single remaining primary just to tie Obama's pledged delegate count. That's a 40 point lead, which is simply not going to happen.

[Skidmore]

10. Not me, even if hell freezes over.

[Maat]

16. What Skidmore said (n/t)!

[Maureen54]

11. not here

It will not happen in this family. My husband and I still support him , and my two kids (grown)still support him.

[book_worm]

13. Are you kidding?

[doc03]

14. Well I did I briefly supported Obama after

Edwards dropped out.

[HockeyMom]

15. I switched from Clinton to Obama

Not going back again.

[AlinPA]

57. I did too, after her RI speech.

[azmouse]

17. Switching to HRC would be like switching to the GOP.

Never gonna happen.

[chimpymustgo]

19. The super-delegates cannot "override" the pledged delegates. Their role is to decide independently.

That is why they were CREATED.

Why can't BHO supporters understand this very simple concept?

[davhill]

21. Maybe "over ride" is the wrong word

How about outweigh?

[desi]

20. none here obviously

:rofl:

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[myrna minx]

22. Proud Obama supporter here.

:hi: He's had a bad week. All politicians have bad weeks. Strong politicians survive them and are made stronger because of them.

[barack the house]

23. Nah ah. Not today thank you , but thanksfor calling.

[TexasObserver]

27. that's as likely as a vegan going to work in a slaughter house

ain't gonna happen

[ChimpersMcSmirkers]

28. Don't know a one...in fact these tests strengthen our resolve...

I would also say that the SD's seem to be in agreement with us.

[RC]

29. I use to think Hillary and Obama were pretty much the same.

Then Hillary went way negative. Then there was only one candidate that had a chance when that happened. Obama. He leaves some to be desired, but he is way better than the alternatives.

[NJmaverick]

30. Have heard of a single one

[ecstatic]

31. If Obama somehow ends up on my shit list, I'm done with politics

I will never be a Clinton supporter again.

[onenote]

32. I think Rev. Wright has switched.

j/k of course.

[SoCalDem]

33. I'm hearing lots of

[PATRICK]

34. A candidate, any candidate

has the ability to mislead and corrupt their followers and supporters, to abuse their trust, and more generally move them in the wrong direction. It is more the responsibility of HRC and Bill than of their followers or even hirelings for destructive warp that has been inserted into the process. Sure it is "hard-nosed" politics. It was never structured to be that of course when HRC was the presumptive heir. More than the rules have been bent or the necessary goal of party unity changed. The very moment of crisis and need has been thrown under the bus and well-meaning followers have behaved like Bush's magic 20% flock of the damned in fanatically adhering to that leadership.

A small warp can produce a gigantic miss, a terrible multiplication of error. The heat and rough and tumble of primaries, especially unplanned twilight struggles such as this in a banner Dem year, are always rational parts of the equation. Error usually results in loss and correction and nomination of one person. this error however is assertively pushing toward destruction of us all. it is only sensible to point that out though it won't help the honest supporters corrupted by corrupt hope in a powerful, defeated yet unbowed campaign.

I can only surmise in pealing back the onion of responsibility(we were only following Hillary) that perhaps it is a fatal lover's flaw like Antony and Cleopatra that is keeping that pair from more effective, less raging strategies and reality. Bill cannot- as he has mediated so well with others- even think about telling her the facts. So instead of facing them himself he goes ballistic and brings out his very worst. Nor would Hillary brook any calming or positive advice to play defeat into something positive for all. Something in the chemistry between the two, perhaps, has crossed the dysfunctional line into the tragic. The fate of the entire world should not depend on this destructively twinned judgment. In Antony's case only the dominance of the western Roman Empire was set to change the course of history forever. In our case it is literally life, liberty and death for everyone.

And there is no one above them to call them on the carpet as they scoop up more Convention clout that increasingly looks crazy and dangerous without a rational reference as a nomination utility. Thousands of loyalists, patriots and professionals died for the relational dysfunctions of Antony and Cleopatra. Should we be surprised to see the victims lining up for the new game though the world burns beneath their feet?

[mystieus]

35. Never.

[dailykoff]

36. Let's see, there was Bill Richardson,

oh wait...

:rofl:

[Raine]

37. NO way, NO how! nt

[SwampG8r]

38. never

no way no how no time
i used to think i could vote for her if i had to but i know now she has excluded herself from my support
if she steals it i will go and vote every down ticket dem but not her
she is a wolf in sheeps clothing

[Mz Pip]

39. Nobody I know

I do know a few Clinton supporters who've changed their minds about her, though.

[undeterred]

40. No way. She's been driving people away with her behavior.

[Tennessee Gal]

42. Obama drove me away.

I was for him for a short while after Edwards dropped out.

[Condem]

56. You were never there.

[slinkerwink]

43. not I!

[my3boyz]

44. Hell would freeze over first! nt

[TexasLady]

45. no, only from Kucinich to Obama

[truth please]

46. As a good friend of mine always says

"Hell To The No".

[wisteria]

47. Why would we switch? Senator Obama is our chance to change our party and Washington. n/t

[dana_b]

48. not a chance in heaven or hell. n/t

[Pisces]

49. Not in a million fucking years.

[L0oniX]

50. If Obama doesn't win the primary I won't expect any improvement in our government and I will...

no longer give a damn about politics or anything this fucked up government does any more. I will concentrate on protecting my own ass.

[cliffordu]

51. ME ME ME!!!! psych....not.

[Honeycombe8]

53. Not me. The Clintons cannot win. You surely know this. If Obama is out, then McCain wins. nt

[ClayZ]

54. Nobody in this house has switched to Hillary.

[Genevieve]

55. No -- I'm not going there....nt

[featherman]

58. Hi Dave!!! Not me...more firmly for Obama than ever. Simple political

calculation... Politics 101: Do not nominate a candidate with the highest disapproval rating

[City Lights]

59. Not me.

None of the Obama supporters I know personally either. If anything, their disgust and dislike of Hillary has grown stronger.

[sueragingroz]

60. nobody has switched

The makers of Kool Aid have a concession here :)