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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 06:40 PM
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I agree with Margaret Carlson-Today was Obama's "New Hampshire moment."
More than a couple people who watched Obama during his press conference today said this is the first time they saw him show real emotion. He seemed genuinely angry and upset, yet was still in control. He may get sympathy from women who feel he was betrayed by this guy. And at the same time he did what had to be done. I agree.
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2rth2pwr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 06:41 PM
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1. Just what we need, a man who gets votes because he's such a loser.
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 06:43 PM
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2. Where did anyone say he's a loser? Was Hillary a loser for "tearing up" in NH?
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TheDebbieDee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 06:47 PM
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9. According to Obama supporters, yes, Hillary was a loser.
And a fake, too!
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 06:49 PM
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17. Find ONE post where ANYONE called her a loser for that. n/t
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roguevalley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 07:09 PM
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41. links or leave.
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sorrybushisfromtexas Donating Member (416 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 06:49 PM
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16. Since Obama is beating Hill the thrill and according to you he is a
loser. What does that make her except a shrill voice calling out of the wilderness.. Vote for me I am inevitable.

She is losing to a political newcomer, who has out raised her in money, (mostly small sums, leads in delegates, has cut her lead in super delegates to about 20, has more primary votes, (even if you include Florida, can't include Michigan because he wasn't on the ballot. It is called math, she can't win. Get over it

An Aging Hippie


:evilgrin: :evilgrin: :hippie: :hippie:

I am sorrybushisfromtexas
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 06:51 PM
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20. I think you meant this in response to post #1...not mine.
:)
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sorrybushisfromtexas Donating Member (416 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 06:55 PM
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23. I did, I did
Still recovering from brain surgery. Computers sometimes puzzle me
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 06:58 PM
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28. I figured...
Seriously? If so, I hope you feel better soon.

If not, I feel foolish. :)
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sorrybushisfromtexas Donating Member (416 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 07:15 PM
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44. No need to feel foolish
I had two surgeries in Dec. 2007. I am back to full speed unless I get real tired. I administered state tests in school today. I would rather have a root canal without pain medication. It made for a long day.
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myrna minx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 07:30 PM
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48. Congratulations on your recovery!
That sounds like quite a lot to go through. :hug:
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 08:24 PM
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53. Oh, man...
Well, I'm glad things went well for you! Good ludk with everything from now on! :hi:
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anigbrowl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 06:45 PM
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4. Were you always this nasty, or did you have to work at it?
Every day you manage to surprise me anew. I'm beginning to think Obama stole your crayons in kindergarten or something.
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CBGLuthier Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 06:45 PM
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6. How deep in your ass did you have to reach
Edited on Tue Apr-29-08 06:45 PM by notmypresident
to pull that out.

You may want to visit a hospital to make sure you didn't damage your colon.
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saigon68 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 07:02 PM
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33. LOL
damage your colon.:-) :-)
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LakeSamish706 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 06:46 PM
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7. Why don't you find a cliff with a 300 foot drop and jump off of it... n/t
Edited on Tue Apr-29-08 06:46 PM by LakeSamish706
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Window Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 06:47 PM
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10. You are ill.
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Doityourself Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 06:52 PM
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21. Psycho alpha disco beta bio human you loop!
Can't comprehend all the strokes!

Feelin' that they might choke! Oh!
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ampad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 07:01 PM
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31. OMG
Cypress Hill!
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Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 07:04 PM
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36. I don't know what you do to make you this stupid, but it's working.
Edited on Tue Apr-29-08 07:04 PM by Forkboy
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roguevalley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 07:07 PM
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39. what an appalling post. you do your gal no good when you do this
sort of thing. too bad.
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chascarrillo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 08:01 PM
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52. And who gets votes because her husband cheated on her?
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LakeSamish706 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 06:45 PM
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3. I seriously think that this was one of the hardest things that Barack has ever...
had to do in his lifetime.... Anybody that watched his presser could see the emotion below the surface on his face and I really think that he was very close to breaking up over it. Hey, he loved this man like the father that he didn't grow up with and it hurt him deeply to be forced to do this.
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 06:46 PM
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8. I agree. And I think lots of people saw the same thing. It was obviously heart-felt and heart-
breaking for both him AND Michelle.
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CTyankee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 07:03 PM
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35. It willhelp him with women voters, I believe. He has shown real sadness at being rejected
and how many women here at DU or anywhere else for that matter hasn't?

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NJmaverick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 06:45 PM
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5. No question Obama turned the corner on this issue.
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 06:47 PM
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13. I agree.
:hi:
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islandmkl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 06:47 PM
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11. this was nowhere as hard as dodging sniper bullets in Tuzla.....
nowhere near...
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ecstatic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 06:47 PM
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12. I wonder what would have happened if he teared up
How would that have gone over?
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 06:55 PM
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22. I have no idea.
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Cali_Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 06:57 PM
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27. Not good
Personally, I don't think that would have gone over well at all. He would be bashed if he had done that.
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TexasObserver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 06:47 PM
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14. now MSM has to report and obsess over Obama's statement
And that is good.

Suddenly, the focus is "Jeremiah was being kind of a dick, and Obama put the smackdown on him!"

Once again, Obama shows us he's capable of making wise decisions.
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 06:56 PM
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24. Yup. He changed the narrative. He once again turned lemons into lemonade.
:)
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GetTheRightVote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 06:48 PM
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15. The depth of emotion was shown, to be a leader you must do what
must be done whether you wish to or not to friend or foe.

He did what must be done so that his own belief system shines not that of another whether he be friend or foe. It is just that simple, yet not so easy to act upon. Who can say that they have not had these moments in life where principles drove your decision over emotions. A see a President in the making of this decision and I hope others do as well.
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 07:00 PM
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29. Exactly...
Well put! :hi:
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CTyankee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 07:11 PM
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43. Seeing these clips from Obama's press conference, I kept thinking of Abraham Lincoln.
Lincoln never showed anger or rage. He was often sad and unhappy about the fact that he had to face a Civil War in his presidency. Lincoln is revered as one of the best, if not THE best, president of our entire history.

Why can't we have a president who confronts the reality of a
situation, as Lincoln did, with gravity and concern?

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myrna minx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 07:33 PM
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49. Very well stated.
:hi:
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TragedyandHope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 06:49 PM
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18. Obama is human
Maybe some people are seeing that for the first time today.
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 07:01 PM
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32. Yeah...
and although most of us KNOW he's human, some thought he was "aloof" or "out of touch" or "too cool for school" as Joe Scarborough and others have said. Today changed that perception.
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MoonRiver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 06:50 PM
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19. Oh, please.
He is clearly ONLY a political panderer who panders to those whose votes he needs. :eyes:
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book_worm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 07:00 PM
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30. Let's see Hill and McCain are calling for a summer gas tax vacation
and Obama opposes it as impractical (saves the cost of half a tank of gas overall and raids the road fund and will cost over 300,000 jobs) and Obama is the panderer. That is rich!:eyes: :eyes:
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 07:02 PM
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34. You wish.
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jonestonesusa Donating Member (630 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 07:06 PM
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38. And Hillary Clinton does not pander?
Or does she drink a shot and a beer every night at happy hour?
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 07:10 PM
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42. She was from about 4 different states, was on both sides of every issue,
takes credit for her husband's policies when useful and distances herself from them when not...Other than all that, she doesn't pander.
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muryan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 07:08 PM
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40. You must be forgetting about Hillary the hunter
or McCain the guy who was against torture before he was for it.
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scheming daemons Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 06:56 PM
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25. Sister Souljah......
....he's following the Bubba '92 script.
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Tennessee Gal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 06:57 PM
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26. I neither heard or saw any real anger.
He had a right to be furious.

He is being too cautious.
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 07:04 PM
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37. He was definitely showed true emotion, whatever you want to call it.
I disagree that he was being too cautious. He was being human and honest and presidential.
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stillcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 07:24 PM
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46. Not emotional enough?
Too emotional? Or the wrong kind of emotion?
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Tellurian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 07:16 PM
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45. Wright will come back with a rebuttal to Obama's incongruous carefully crafted statement
It's NOT Over no matter how you choose to SPIN this.. No one believes that after Obama and Wright having been together for 20 yrs, didn't know or agree with each other's philosophies. The two of them are/were in FULL agreement. Obama's PA speech will be compared word for word to todays speech and the anomalies will surface like a drowned corpse in the water begging more questions looking for answers.
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neverforget Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 07:34 PM
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50. Didn't something change between PA speech and today? People change
but apparently that is lost upon you.
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Tellurian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 07:44 PM
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51. Obama suddenly changes an agreed upon 20 yr philosophy in a few weeks?
Thats is exactly what will be questioned.. by scholars and people who care about the authenticity of a man who can't seem to make up his mind while seeking the seat of power of the US Government. Not everyone is looking for a plausible excuse to cover up Obama's unstable behavior.
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 08:41 PM
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56. The person with "unstable behavior" is Hillary. She is the victim one day, the bully the next
(acting as if she never played the victim or complained about moderators/debates/"pile ons"), LYING about entire scenarios over and over when video was there to show her claim was FALSE, and on and on. :rofl:
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 08:35 PM
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55. You wish...
and I'm sure his PA speech and this one WILL be compared...by you and yours. :eyes: You're nasty.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 07:29 PM
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47. I don't like margaret carlson
and I don't like comparing Obama to hilary in any way shape or form but I see your point, jenmito.

hilary was all about herself in New Hampshire and Obama is having to let go of someone whom he thought was a friend..on an intense national stage.

But, we all know that mediatypes are notoriously lazy and have to have "comparisons".

This wouldn't be happening if the media would be examining the issues instead of tabloid style tv a la the abc debates.
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 08:31 PM
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54. I understand what you mean...
but I don't think M.C. was comparing him in a negative way, like she believed Hillary REALLY "found her voice." :eyes: No matter what, some people obviously believed Hillary was sincere. I agree with you, though. :hi:
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 08:45 PM
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57. It's like it's two parallel Universes..
and I know what Universe Margaret Carlson was talking about but I wanted to get my alternate one in there, too. :) :hi:
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 08:52 PM
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58. I know...
and I agree. I'm glad you put your alternate out there. :hi:
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