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grantcart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-29-08 08:15 PM Original message |
HRC Loyalist Krugman slams Clinton's Gas Tax Cut "disappointing, pointless, giveaway to big oil" |
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rurallib (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-29-08 08:17 PM Response to Original message |
1. So when did Krugman come out for Hillary? |
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grantcart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-29-08 08:23 PM Response to Reply #1 |
4. I have no wrath at all - Krugman has been carrying Clinton water for years. |
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rurallib (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-29-08 08:26 PM Response to Reply #4 |
5. Eh - I suuport Obama but feel Krugman has been |
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chimpymustgo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-30-08 08:29 AM Response to Reply #4 |
55. You got a link for that lie? Please show us where Krugman has announced his support or advisory |
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grantcart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-30-08 02:47 PM Response to Reply #55 |
77. look at the OP in a matter concerning energy policy at the end he goes back to |
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flpoljunkie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-30-08 09:31 AM Response to Reply #4 |
63. Has Krugman not been silent re Sen. Schumer's saying universal healthcare was out of the question? |
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rinsd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-30-08 02:31 PM Response to Reply #4 |
71. Ummm BS. Krugman preferred Edwards and Edwards health plan (which is similar to |
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grantcart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-30-08 02:50 PM Response to Reply #71 |
79. Your right that he preferred Edwards but he has a long bias towards |
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rinsd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-30-08 03:10 PM Response to Reply #79 |
80. His long bias towards Clinton has been cited sans evidence. |
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grantcart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-30-08 10:15 PM Response to Reply #80 |
86. If Krugman is simply giving an independent view of policies why does he feel |
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booley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-30-08 04:54 PM Response to Reply #4 |
84. I think you are reading more then there is |
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grantcart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-30-08 10:11 PM Response to Reply #84 |
85. read Krugman's memo he goes from criticizing the gas tax holiday and then |
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booley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-30-08 10:45 PM Response to Reply #85 |
87. OR MAYBE |
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grantcart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-29-08 08:29 PM Response to Reply #1 |
8. Here is the media commenting on how Krugman altered his view on Obama's health plan after |
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rinsd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-30-08 02:18 PM Response to Reply #8 |
67. The tone change came after the Obama campaign decided to attack Krugman. |
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Johnny__Motown (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-29-08 08:18 PM Response to Original message |
2. Great post thanks... Also.. I would love to see the candidates try to restore the tax just as the |
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anigbrowl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-29-08 08:36 PM Response to Reply #2 |
12. Yep. Smooth move, ex-lax. |
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nsd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-29-08 08:20 PM Response to Original message |
3. I'm a little surprised. |
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ThatPoetGuy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-29-08 08:30 PM Response to Reply #3 |
9. Sickening. |
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MISSDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-29-08 08:42 PM Response to Reply #9 |
16. No, no, no he is just saying he won't FORCE everyone to have |
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ThatPoetGuy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-29-08 09:05 PM Response to Reply #16 |
24. No, he's been on the attack |
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grantcart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-29-08 09:56 PM Response to Reply #24 |
38. Your just making it up as you go. |
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ThatPoetGuy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-30-08 10:54 AM Response to Reply #38 |
65. "Well-documented" |
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grantcart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-29-08 09:09 PM Response to Reply #9 |
25. Really? |
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ThatPoetGuy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-30-08 10:44 AM Response to Reply #25 |
64. Obama's plan is praiseworthy |
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JimGinPA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-29-08 08:27 PM Response to Original message |
6. Krugman Is Dead To Me Now! |
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PM7nj (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-29-08 08:28 PM Response to Original message |
7. Nice to see he still has some credibility left... |
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asjr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-29-08 08:30 PM Response to Original message |
10. Krugman does not play favorites. |
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grantcart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-29-08 09:14 PM Response to Reply #10 |
27. Here commentators note how Krugman has politicized his opinions |
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anigbrowl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-29-08 08:31 PM Response to Original message |
11. This comes as a surprise |
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last1standing (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-29-08 08:37 PM Response to Original message |
13. I'm a big fan of Krugman, despite his obvious bias toward Clinton. |
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Boz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-29-08 08:38 PM Response to Original message |
14. You want to lower the cost of gas at the pump, RASIE IT FOR THE SUMMER |
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onehandle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-29-08 08:40 PM Response to Original message |
15. "HRC Loyalist Krugman" Funny how he was a hero around here until recently. |
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trumad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-29-08 08:43 PM Response to Reply #15 |
17. Um...he's still my hero... |
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onehandle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-29-08 09:25 PM Response to Reply #17 |
31. I think he favors what he thinks is best. |
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grantcart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-29-08 09:48 PM Response to Reply #31 |
36. calling a person a 'loyalist' is not an insult. It does identify his point of view. |
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rinsd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-30-08 02:47 PM Response to Reply #36 |
78. "Remember, Krugman favored Edwards, not Clinton." |
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last1standing (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-29-08 08:46 PM Response to Reply #15 |
19. Your post not only skirts the discussion topic but introduces a strawman. |
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onehandle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-29-08 09:27 PM Response to Reply #19 |
32. Read my signature. nt |
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grantcart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-29-08 08:59 PM Response to Reply #15 |
22. Neither a hero or a demon but he has been shading towards Clinton the whole campaign |
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scheming daemons (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-29-08 08:43 PM Response to Original message |
18. What? No Hillary supporters trumpeting a Krugman column? Can it be? |
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aquart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-30-08 05:57 AM Response to Reply #18 |
52. What I like about Hillary is that she CAN be criticized. |
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BootinUp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-29-08 08:49 PM Response to Original message |
20. I am not an economist |
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grantcart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-29-08 09:16 PM Response to Reply #20 |
28. I agree - the question is the price being determined by the cost (tax) |
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bigbrother05 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-29-08 08:59 PM Response to Original message |
21. Grantcart thanks for posting |
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grantcart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-29-08 09:33 PM Response to Reply #21 |
34. It is not an indication of how she will fix anything, only how she will pander |
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The Backlash Cometh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-29-08 09:03 PM Response to Original message |
23. Krugman, he lives in New York? No? |
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grantcart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-29-08 09:21 PM Response to Reply #23 |
29. I think it is an old association predating Clinton's move to NY |
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zulchzulu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-29-08 09:12 PM Response to Original message |
26. Good for Krugman to show some validity n/t |
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Forkboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-29-08 09:25 PM Response to Original message |
30. Krugman is cool. I said it when he supported Hillary and I still say it. |
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grantcart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-29-08 09:27 PM Response to Reply #30 |
33. Don't disagree |
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Forkboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-29-08 09:35 PM Response to Reply #33 |
35. I sure do. |
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rinsd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-30-08 02:23 PM Response to Reply #33 |
69. He supporteed her health care plan and her approach to Social Security. |
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booley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-30-08 10:50 PM Response to Reply #33 |
88. I''m denying it |
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aquart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-30-08 05:58 AM Response to Reply #30 |
53. Me, too. |
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scarletwoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-29-08 09:49 PM Response to Original message |
37. "Pointless, but not evil" -- sounds almost innocuous until you think about it. |
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grantcart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-29-08 10:03 PM Response to Reply #37 |
39. some would say that 'pointless' pandering is an evil in that it undermines a thoughtful campaign |
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scarletwoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-29-08 10:24 PM Response to Reply #39 |
43. Well, hell. Electoral politics in this country has been "pointless" for a damn long time. |
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Cha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-29-08 10:13 PM Response to Reply #37 |
41. I agree and I think it is |
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scarletwoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-29-08 10:26 PM Response to Reply #41 |
44. Makes you wonder if he never heard of that old saying about "the road to hell" and what paves it. |
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Cha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-29-08 10:45 PM Response to Reply #44 |
49. Who knows what that economist is |
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JoFerret (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-29-08 10:10 PM Response to Original message |
40. Krugman back in favor now? |
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Ichingcarpenter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-29-08 10:40 PM Response to Reply #40 |
47. Even someone like Krugman and you can be right once in a while |
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JoFerret (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-29-08 10:59 PM Response to Reply #47 |
50. Krugman is usually right. |
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grantcart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-30-08 08:54 AM Response to Reply #47 |
58. I also think its a little bit of preparing for the ultimate change of loyalty |
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rinsd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-30-08 02:41 PM Response to Reply #47 |
73. "on politics he is not a star." Yeah too bad he doesn't like Obama |
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madrchsod (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-29-08 10:17 PM Response to Original message |
42. well duh.. |
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Condem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-29-08 10:35 PM Response to Original message |
45. grantcart |
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grantcart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-29-08 10:37 PM Response to Reply #45 |
46. well they have also come back and spanked her and so has Krugman |
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Condem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-29-08 10:41 PM Response to Reply #46 |
48. A phase, grantcart. |
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davidpdx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-30-08 05:47 AM Response to Original message |
51. I've read Krugman's columns and one of his books |
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catgirl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-30-08 08:26 AM Response to Original message |
54. K & R |
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high density (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-30-08 08:49 AM Response to Original message |
56. Hilarious "pay no attention to the (wo)man behind the screen" postscript at the end there |
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Hope And Change (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-30-08 08:49 AM Response to Original message |
57. K & R! |
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joeybee12 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-30-08 09:17 AM Response to Original message |
59. Hmmm...loyalist...yeah, see him standing behind her at all the rallies... |
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grantcart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-30-08 09:22 AM Response to Reply #59 |
61. Avoiding the point of the OP altogether |
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TragedyandHope (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-30-08 09:21 AM Response to Original message |
60. It should be obvious that if McCain's for it, it must be fatally flawed |
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grantcart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-30-08 02:17 PM Response to Reply #60 |
66. Or more to the point if the oil companies are for it |
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chill_wind (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-30-08 09:25 AM Response to Original message |
62. Good to see he stopped holding out for Hillary on this. Sent this to the Obama Campaign. |
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Leo 9 (560 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-30-08 02:20 PM Response to Original message |
68. All Economists Despise 'Gas Tax Holiday', What With Its Hilarious Lack Of Logic |
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Eurobabe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-30-08 02:24 PM Response to Original message |
70. I'm shocked, shocked that you just don't get it |
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grantcart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-30-08 02:33 PM Response to Reply #70 |
72. No he's still pandering on an issue that was about energy policy he still had to |
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rinsd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-30-08 02:43 PM Response to Reply #72 |
76. His reputation is fine with everyone but mindless Obama "supporters". |
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grantcart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-30-08 04:08 PM Response to Reply #76 |
83. No you again miss the point entirely - even though he has a bias for Clinton |
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Eurobabe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-30-08 03:23 PM Response to Reply #72 |
81. I see. |
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anonymous171 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-30-08 02:42 PM Response to Original message |
74. SRSLY? Wow. Even he knows it's stupid. |
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me b zola (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-30-08 02:42 PM Response to Original message |
75. Just like Hillary's campaign==>> pointless, and disappointing. |
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Bake (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-30-08 04:04 PM Response to Original message |
82. I'm an HRC supporter here, but I agree with Krugman. |
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barack the house (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-30-08 11:28 PM Response to Original message |
89. Krugmen is starting to get it give him time. If walks like a duck... |
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