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swishyfeet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 09:39 PM
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Wouldn't Hillary support Obama if she lost?
I know the "his/her supporters would bail to McCain" thing is all part of the political game, and it's been rehashed a thousand times here.

But what would the other CANDIDATE do? I'll start here with Hillary because she is less likely to win right now. I'd like to know from her supporters if they think she would actively support Obama and get this thing won for the Democrats - since that really IS the most important issue.

For all the worrying going on by both sides here, support from the losing campaign is a bit more important than mending the hurt feelings here at DU. The losing campain can really win or lose this thing for the Democrats.

To make it even, just tell us what you think YOUR candidate of choice would do if they lost...



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bluestateguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 09:43 PM
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1. Oh, she will
Kicking and screaming.

She'll pout about losing for a week or two and then issue a tepid one sentence press release touting her "endorsement", and lift not a finger for him in the campaign.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 09:52 PM
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15. They'll do just enough to fool their fanbase, and undermine Obama behind the scenes as
as they did to Kerry and Gore.
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ChairmanAgnostic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-30-08 05:40 AM
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32. exactly.
yup.
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StevieM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 09:53 PM
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17. If Obama wins then her level of support should be dependent on his behavior
Will he apologize for the way he portrayed her and acknowledge that it is not who she is? If Hillary is truly a racist then Obama shouldn't campaign with her. The more he retracts, the more she should help him.

Not that it matters since Obama has bluntly said that he's pretty sure he's going to get her voters.

Steve
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swishyfeet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 09:57 PM
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19. Politicians have sucked up for less...
Both camps have said stupid shit. Even if Obama lost I expect he'd say he was just kiddin' - as would Hillary.

As should anyone not for a McSame ticket.
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WillyToad Donating Member (389 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 10:04 PM
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25. She has already promised to do so
She won't pout at all, she will instantly start campaigning for him and convince her supporters to do the same.

Your hate doesn't exist anywhere but in your head nor does it belong in the democratic party.
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uponit7771 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 09:44 PM
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2. I wouldn't be surprised if she were still throwing kitchen utensils.
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gravity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 09:44 PM
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3. Hillary will support Obama eventually
Assuming that it becomes clear that Obama is the nomination.

This whole process gets each supporters on both sides emotionally involved for each candidate. It might take a couple of weeks before people start campaigning for the other, but it will happen.
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featherman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 09:45 PM
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4. Yes she will... and so will Bill. Of this there is no doubt for me at least
I know others will disagree
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swishyfeet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 09:47 PM
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8. I hope so
I don't remember this mass defection scenario happening in the past - especially now when everyone is SO fired up.
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swishyfeet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 09:46 PM
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5. I expect supporters to come around to a large degree...
But in this (the latest most important election ever), could we get a little something extra from the one who loses?
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Dr Fate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 09:46 PM
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6. The DLC will "support" Obama in the same way they "supported" Ned Lamont.
Edited on Tue Apr-29-08 09:47 PM by Dr Fate
n/t
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cbayer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 09:47 PM
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I have no doubt that she would
and that she would do it forcefully.

I think they really like each other beneath all of this. I am still holding out for a ticket with both of our candidates on it.
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Honeycombe8 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 09:47 PM
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7. Oh, sure. She hit the campaign trail for Kerry, didn't she? Oh, wait. No she didn't. nt
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bluestateguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 09:50 PM
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14. She did campaign for Kerry, in fact
And so did Chelsea. Bill Clinton did a weekend before the election rally in Philadelphia that drew 100,000 people.

I doubt we'll see that kind of dedication from any of the three Clintons again, though if it's Obama.
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Honeycombe8 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-30-08 07:05 PM
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34. Actually, no....SHE didn't. nt
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Arkansas Granny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 09:57 PM
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18. Her campaigning for Kerry might have been curtailed by the fact that
Bill had quadruple bypass surgery in September before the election and he developed some problems afterwards. Even so, Bill managed to make an appearance with Kerry even though he still looked looked like he needed some more time to recover.

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swishyfeet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 10:02 PM
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22. Thanks for the reminder Granny
Both Clinton and Obama are better than all their campaign shenanigans would seem.
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scheming daemons Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 09:48 PM
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9. Publicly, she'll support him.... Privately, she'll work to destroy his campaign.....


...so she can run in 2012.


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Triana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 10:01 PM
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21. what scheming demons said - that's what I think she'll do - support him publicly only
then work privately to destroy him.
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ccharles000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 09:49 PM
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10. She would support him.
She is a proud democrat.

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ccharles000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 09:49 PM
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11. She would support him.
She is a proud democrat.

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Iceburg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 09:50 PM
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12. If Hillar loses the nom, I trust her to put her full political weight behind Obama
Sadly, I think Obama will just disappear into the ether if he loses
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Arkansas Granny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 09:50 PM
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13. Of course she would. Here are her remarks from the debate in Philadelphia:
Well, Charlie, I'm going to do everything I possibly can to make sure that one of us takes the oath of office next January. I think that has to be the overriding goal, whatever we have to do.

Obviously we are still contesting to determine who will be the nominee. But once that is resolved, I think it is absolutely imperative that our entire party close ranks, that we become unified.

I will do everything to make sure that the people who supported me support our nominee.

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/04/16/us/politics/16text-debate.html?pagewanted=print
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swishyfeet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 09:53 PM
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16. So why all the doom and gloom here?
If the Clinton supporters think she would support him, and I would certainly like to think Obama would do the same, then why the OBAMA NOMINATION = McCAIN WINS threads?

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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 10:00 PM
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20. Sure. Just like Scarlett O'Hara "supported" Prissy and Big Sam. Yup.
Edited on Tue Apr-29-08 10:09 PM by TahitiNut
The core sense of (white) "elitism" and entitlement - coupled with her oh-so-generous condescension to her "inferiors" - is becoming clearer and clearer under the bright lights of her campaign.

I no longer think for a moment that Hillary's sense of "We" (as in "We the People") is all-inclusive at its root. I once assumed it did, but no longer. I think she regards it as a "favor" ... and that's one of the more noxious remnants of Jim Crow racism. That's the "lesser evil" that was (and is, still) so common in the 'world' of so many that it could rarely be shown to someone who didn't already see it.

I'd say "for shame, Hillary" ... but it'd be hard to find a greater waste of breath.

I think Hillary regards an impending loss of the nomination (eggs she'd already counted) as HUGELY disappointing - but it's WORSE for her that it's a 'black man' to whom she's losing. As a mental exercise, I try to imagine who differently she might feel if it were John Edwards (or Chris Dodd or Joe Biden) instead of Barack Obama ... and it seems clear that SHE regards it as more 'humiliating' to lose out to Obama. Not because she REALLY thinks he's least qualified but because he's (omigod!) black. Indeed, the common pretense that Obama is less qualified even than John Edwards, though rarely mentioned, is obvious even on DU - a specious cover for the toxin of racism.

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crankychatter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-30-08 05:30 AM
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31. YEOUCH
that had to hurt
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Jamastiene Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 10:02 PM
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23. You really need to stop saying that.
I've never voted for a Republican, nor do I intend to start now.

Yes, Hillary would support him.
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swishyfeet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 10:13 PM
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26. I was trying to be positive
Point being that I too think we'll heal and cheer for a Dem (for many Dems) in November despite how things look right now.


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Toucano Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 10:03 PM
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24. Hill and Bill would campaign with Obama
I have no doubt of it.
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 10:20 PM
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27. grudgingly........
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bowens43 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-30-08 05:14 AM
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28. She will smile and cackle and an snear say that she does
Edited on Wed Apr-30-08 05:15 AM by bowens43
while working tirelessly behind the scenes to ensure a McCain victory. The only thing that mnatters to hillary is getting the power that is so rightfully hers. 2012 is her next shot.
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indimuse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-30-08 05:19 AM
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29. Hillary said:::
Party unity. Hillary gave an impassioned defense of unity, refusing to accept a reporter's challenge about the divisions in the party. She noted that she was a personal friend of John McCain's and respected the man great. "His ideas are simply wrong." She honored the person while contesting the policies, which is the only way you can fight this guy - on substance. Then Hillary said what a true Democrat does:

“Anyone, anyone, who voted for either of us should be absolutely committed to voting for the other” in the general election, Clinton said during an hourlong meeting with The Indianapolis Star Editorial Board. “I’m going to shout that from the mountaintops and the valleys and everywhere I can, no matter what the outcome of the nominating process is.”

...“no matter what the differences are between Senator Obama and myself, they pale in comparison to the differences we have with Senator McCain and the Republicans.” ~ Hillary!
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crankychatter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-30-08 05:28 AM
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30. She'll support Obama
... as far as I know.
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4themind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-30-08 05:41 AM
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33. It's not her personal endorsement I'm worried about..
It's whether her surrogates like lanny davis, will keep appearing on the cable news circuit, continuing to spread doubt.
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