Obama has been fully aware of these controversial opinions of Wright's for a long time.

[ginchinchili]

Rev. Wright presided over Barrack and Michelle's wedding, baptized their children, was pastor of the church Obama has attended for over 20 years, the man Obama refers to as a "father figure." These opinions of Wright's are no surprise to Obama. What shocks Obama is that Rev. Wright is traipsing around the countryside repeating these controversial beliefs at such a politically inconvenient time for Obama. Wright was speaking the truth when he said that Obama is saying whatever he has to say to get elected. Barrack's goal of becoming president is more important than his personal integrity and his friendship with Rev. Wright.

[smalll]

1. Exactly why this will kill Obama. Particularly if Pastor Wright in his wounded vanity hits back...

on just this point.

[JoFerret]

3. It's like Wright wants to set himself up

as THE spokesperson for the AA community.
He is certainly no MLK and Obama has already dissed him as old and bitter (kind off in JW's eyes anyway.)
All depends on what kind of waves the man is allowed to make>

[aquart]

63. "Old" is a really bad thing to be in Obama's cult.

[LVjinx]

52. I'm sure Wright will say "Outraged? He was THERE during the sermon" any moment now

[RBInMaine]

2. You are ASSunming a lot here, and repeating RW talking points.

[ginchinchili]

12. Everything mentioned is fact that Obama has made clear many times.

The only talking point is that Obama is saying what he has to to get elected and I'd say that's a pretty obvious conclusion.

The last few nights there were all kinds of people on here exclaiming how wonderful and brilliant Rev. Wright is. Do they still think he's wonderful and brilliant?

[genna]

39. Brilliant...probably. Wonderful...as a prophetic speaker YES.

I don't think I'd be any more electable than Wright.

Also, I don't think Wright is correct in the details of all the issues he laid out yesterday. I don't think his ability to mock other people should be underrated either.


I think you probably should do a victory lap for Hillary. She managed to NOT pile on and gets the benefit of this news story.

The question is what does she stand for when race is not a factor.

[rodeodance]

15. no, the OP is right. For Obama it is about the big ME. He was NOT outraged till today!

[hedgehog]

4. You may or may not want to think upon this historical note:

"(Senator Joseph)McCarthy died in Bethesda Naval Hospital on May 2, 1957, at the age of 48. The official cause of his death was listed as acute hepatitis: an inflammation of the liver. It was hinted in the press that he died of alcoholism, an estimation that is accepted by contemporary biographers.
(snip) Robert Kennedy quietly attended the funeral in Wisconsin.



Maybe Obama can see in shades of gray when judging a person. Is that so bad in a President?

[Dr Fate]

10. Sounds like something some elitist would read in a fancy-pants book.

Obama is a reverse racist and you know it!!!

LOL- is that "working class" enough for ya? ;)

But seriously- dont expect otherwise intellignet Hillary supporters to look at subtle reality on this- they are in full on ignorant "working class" mode- only negative media perceptions and pushing the race-buttons of poor white swing-voters matter at this point...

[ginchinchili]

18. Rev. Wright is much more that an acquaintance. He's a father figure.

Those were his words. I'm not sure what gray area you're referring to, but I know that if I attended a church and heard my pastor saying the kinds of things Rev. Wright says, I would cease to be a parishioner. There would be no gray area. It's clear as day.

Democrats got all upset when Jerry Falwell and Pat Robertson made divisive comments not unlike Rev. Wright. The hypocrisy is smothering.

[Dr Fate]

22. Hillary should keep pounding that message home-in fact, she should make it a central campaign theme.

I think she should keep saying that over and over- it pushes all the right buttons and gets the "working class" (AKA conservative swing voters) all lathered up.


Really- at this point, I think Hillary should keep on hammering it and talking about it non-stop.

[Triana]

36. Falwell and Robertson WERE NOT on television daily for a WEEK - clips being repeatedly played

of their assinine rantings, and REPUBLICANS - who largely supported those two crazies WERE NOT called upon to DENOUNCE them.

NOT the same. FAR from it.

[kwassa]

72. Utter bullshit

There is no comparison between Wright and Falwell or Robertson.

[aquart]

64. Dunno. My mama never forgave RFK for his work with McCarthy.

NEVER. Some memories are way longer than yours. Some remember that Joe Kennedy was a fascist.

[babylonsister]

5. Smack my face! Thanks for your terribly credible insight. I'll

be sure to believe you. Your opinion sucks in my opinion. But hey, this is America.

And if your gal had an ounce of integrity in her pinky finger that Obama has, you'd have something to crow about. Too bad for you.

[soothsayer]

6. This could all be manufactured so Obama can denounce him.

[Dr Fate]

24. Exactly- its clear that Obama planned Wright's 9/11 comments so that he could denounce them later.

And if you think that is sneaky- just wait for their "plot from beyond the grave."

[WinkyDink]

56. ITA. Say something to give Obama the excuse to say, "Now THAT is over the line, Buddy!"

[casus belli]

7. Watch 50 full sermons of Wright speaking

and then maybe I'll lend some credibility to anything you have to say regarding the man, what his message has been, and who has or hasn't heard some of his more controversial sermons.

Until then, your opinion is exactly that....

[Labors of Hercules]

37. exactly what?

complete bullshit, devoid of merit and unsubstantiated by the facts?

[casus belli]

61. Well that too. :)

But I was willing to call it a night at "opinion". People proclaiming to know how Obama thinks, what he has heard, and how he views certain things are wearing on my nerves.

[wileedog]

8. "I now pronouce you man and wife..."

"God DAAAMN America!!!"

Is that how you think it went?

[ginchinchili]

19. Yeah, that's how it went.

[chill_wind]

23. ::Snorting my coffee:: LOL. That was good! :-) n/t

[uponit7771]

33. LOFL

[bluestateguy]

9. Guess what?

I DON'T CARE!!!!!!

[rodeodance]

11. It IS telling that Obama go OUTRAGED when and only when Wright said he was a politician and

had to say those things to make nice. For Obama it is always about the big ME>



Wright was speaking the truth when he said that Obama is saying whatever he has to say to get elected.

[LVjinx]

53. Obama's arrogant and egotistical. Of course that's what this is all about

[Gloria]

13. Obama writes about listening to Wright as two white guys doodled...during the

Holocaust comments, etc. He wrote about it in his book....

[EFerrari]

14. MIss Cleo, is that you! I have some questions I'd like to ask!

:)

[cliffordu]

16. Blah de blah de blah blah blah. We got it, on to the next, please.

Enough with the pastorbating...

[smalll]

21. On to the next? WHAT WILL WRIGHT SAY NEXT?!?!

Vote in my poll! http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x5743838 :hi:

[Auntie Bush]

27. Ahhh! you don't like it when someone criticizes Obama!

How's it feel? Now you know what it's like to be a Hillary supporter and get accused of things you don't agree with. Stinks eh?

[cliffordu]

31. Well, the one thing I like about Hillary is.......(Tuzla)

[rodeodance]

17. REC. well said.

[Mz Pip]

20. I' m so sure Wright

gave controversial and inflammatory sermons at Obama's wedding and the baptism of their children. Probably ranted on about the government causing AIDS at the older daughter's baptism and 9/11 at the younger daughter's Baptism. Yell GODDAMNAMERICA! at their wedding, too!

Believe me, if Wright's rants were commonplace the RW would have more than a couple of 30 second soundbites to play over and over again.

[EFerrari]

25. And his church would be empty.

Oops!

[chill_wind]

29. Truly. Heard MSNBC anchor Tamron Hall say tonite she attended that church for TEN YEARS

and did not hear this stuff.

Though would have been lovely if she had made a point of saying so before today, say just about ANY time in the last few weeks,
before everyone got done pecking both men's eyes out.

Not that quite everyone IS done, even now, as we can clearly see..

[chimpymustgo]

78. She said she visited the church perhaps 6 TIMES in the 10 YEARS she lived in Chicago. Sheesh.

[Auntie Bush]

32. Hannity has more sound bites and they are waiting for the GE to expose them.

[cliffordu]

35. And just how would you know that???

With Youtube the way it is.....I think you are mistaken...

The thing I like Hillary?? Tuzla

[Auntie Bush]

40. Heard/saw Hannity say it when he first published the tapes.

He has a whole reel of video he bought from Wright as the highest bidder.
Nice?

[cliffordu]

42. Yawn.....Why are you reporting what Hannity said on this board, anyway??

[Auntie Bush]

51. Because I got sick of KO and Co. denouncing Hillary. Haven't watched him in a long time.Hav

Gotta problem with that? I'm also curious what the enemy thinks about controversial situations. That's called being informed...and now I informed you. lol Aren't you glad I watched? Learn something new everyday.

[lligrd]

26. How Long Have You Been Aware Of Hillary's Controversial

opinions like obliterating Iran?

[rodeodance]

50. How long have you been smearing her with that out of context smear??

[lligrd]

59. Nothing Out Of Context About It

She said it!

[aquart]

65. Yes, dear. And the context?

Hillary, unlike such as yourself, is not ignorant of the formalities and maneuvers of international relations.

It boggles my mind that they claim Obama gets the educated voters. But then, there's a difference between getting a degree and getting an education.

[MadBadger]

28. OMG, you can't even spell his name right. What are you stooooopid?

[juajen]

30. WOW, you bamababies are all worked up!

Psychologically speaking, it would be better for you just to admit the damage that's been done and try to change the subject, instead of trying to color a pile of shit with purple paint. You know someone's bound to want to know what's under that purple paint, and why it smells so bad!

Ya'll gotta flush it, you know, let it sink, LET IT SINK. What, it's still floating? Damn, Damn, Goddamn America.

[cliffordu]

38. Sorry:

All the pastorbating in the world will not change the fact that your candidate is a second rate talent.


I had that glowing hindsight about them back in the White House again, and then realized something:

She ain't Bill.

From the looks of him lately...he ain't Bill anymore either.....

Sorry..

[juajen]

41. That's the way! Keep it going, going, going, gone? Uh oh, not gone.

[cliffordu]

43. The thing I like most about Hillary?? Tuzla. Nothing but the best.

[rodeodance]

45. I think I like about Hillary is that she has publicly apologized for that issue. mature folks will

and have accepted that apology.

[rodeodance]

46. see my post just below-# 45.

[Hepburn]

34. And Hilly has been aware that Billy fucks around behind her back and keeps him around.

Your point? :shrug:

[juajen]

44. Ah, the Clenis again. Yep, that'll do it, the Clenis.

Uh oh, still floating. God Damn America, still floating,

[rodeodance]

49. Many Obama fans use RW smears against Hillary. There is no difference between the so-called

progressives and the RW lately.

[Hepburn]

70. Oh, please...get a life, OK?

Any woman who will allow a cheating man in her life because she gains some advantage from having him around, is not someone whom I respect.

Is this the kind of role model you want for YOUR daughter? Go ahead, tell your child that it is OK to be a doormat for a man who thinks with his dick. What you were looking to say, but were to stupid to get it right is: Gawd damn male whores.

[ronnykmarshall]

74. Again ....

It's not YOUR business.

This is so fucking funny. Now the RW talking points about the Clinton's marriage are all the RAGE w/ Camp Obama!!

You're harping on Bill's dick and you tell someone to get a life?????

:rofl:

[Cameron27]

80. ROFL

:thumbsup:

[golddigger]

82. It sounds like you need to get a life. Ah, to be fixated on the Clenis.

Are you sure your on the Wright site. You would seem more at home at Freeperville.

Maybe, that is your other home. You poor, poor thing.

[rodeodance]

47. The clintons have reconciled. It is the RW who noses into people's private lives. You are just like

the RW.

[rodeodance]

48. I see you are another Obama fan who is OBSESSED with Bill Clinton's penis!!

[LVjinx]

54. That's her choice, isn't it?

[Prophet 451]

55. Out of order

I'm an Obama supporter myself but that's out of line. What goes on in the Clinton's marriage is none of our business.

[WinkyDink]

57. I think the proper riposte is , And YOUR point? Because I don't see any condemnation of America

in what Bill did.

P.S. I happen to agree with the Rev. Wright on much of what he said. But I'm neither "Middle America" nor running for office.

[EFerrari]

58. You see no disrespect of America

in Bill getting a blow job in the oval office?

When was the last time you had your eyes checked?

Wright was standing up for citizens being abused by their government.

Clinton was standing up for . . . himself.

[aquart]

66. I prefer my president to fuck his mistress than my country.

You would rather see the country fucked. Oh, well.

[Lilith Velkor]

86. Uh, NO

You seriously think he was the first President to get a blow job in the Oval Office?

How the hell is that "disrespecting America?" It's practically a tradition - or was, before the creepy bible thumpers rose to power.

[ronnykmarshall]

73. And it's really not your fucking business is it?

[eridani]

60. Clinton has been aware of her spiritual advisor's nazi leanings for 15 years

Where is the denunciation?

[aquart]

67. Of what?

You don't really understand that Obama promise about reaching across the aisle, do you? That means shaking a lot of nazi hands. Really.

In a democracy, you don't "denounce" people you have to work with. You WORK with them. That was what Hillary did from the second she entered the Senate. She went to the people who hated her guts and made them her friends.

I admire that skill. Obama claims to have that skill. He ain't used it yet, I see.

[eridani]

68. Since when has Rev.Coe been a member of the Senate?

If Clinton is fine with a shitstain who thinks soldiers killing their mothers is a sign of high moral character, WTF is supposed to be wrong with Rev. Wright? Do you have to praise nazi lovers by calling them well qualified spiritual advisers?

[jackson_dem]

62. Imagine if Wright says "Barack is lying. We spoke about this stuff many times and he always agreed."

Obama would be done if Wright does that...

Keep in mind Wright was not just his pastor. He was his mentor.

[jefferson_dem]

69. Rule of thumb: Dismiss critique of a person by one who can't even spell the person's name properly.

n/t

[harun]

71. See this post

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=5735902&mesg_id=5735902

[izzybeans]

75. I don't give a fuck.

Boo fucking hoo.

[yellowcanine]

76. See dead horse. Confirm its death. Proceed to Beat. Rewind and Repeat.

[Freedom Train]

77. Spot on

And if Obama doesn't think this is how independents and the greater electorate will see it too, he's fooling himself.

[SeaLyons]

79. K&R

Wright will be back.....and he will prove that he and Obama "know" each other very well.

[Cameron27]

81. K&R

[golddigger]

83. K&R. The Rev. Wright, the gift that keeps on giving. The battle to see who has the biggest ego.

:thumbsup:

[crimsonblue]

84. Too bad you broke with reality...

Nobody cares about this anymore. It's over. too bad. gonna make you sad?

[Thickasabrick]

85. Bullshit - I never paid attention to what my minister was saying but

I still showed up and he baptised my child. Big fucking deal. This is just another bullshit post.

[DemGa]

87. Indeed, to believe otherwise

you have to believe that Obama, the lawyer and Constitutional scholar, had a complete lack of awareness of integral parts of his life - his most intimate surroundings and relationships.

Just not plausible - Something is wrong here.

[jillan]

88. There is no way he didn't.

[xchrom]

89. kick

[CatsDogsBabies]

90. So what, who cares, blah blah