If you take as given that McSame has no chance, the Dem Primary IS the General Election

[Thor_MN]

I feel that the Primary has been so contentious this cycle because there is a real sense that McSame (All the faults and none of the business education that you expect in a Republican) has no chance at all of winning in the fall. Wrap him up in the same bag as the worst president ever and he will be lucky to carry the <25% of the US that believe that * shouldn't be publicly drawn and quartered. The Republic party (barring MSM and counting machine fraud) is irrelevant for this presidential election.

The person we pick is going to be the next President. The candidates are not campaigning for the chance to be elected President - they are campaigning to be the next President.

[crankychatter]

1. very interesting twist

i like it... you're a smart one

i believe obama can't win unless he's given sufficient time to campaign, to counter MSM attacks

i believe that clinton can't win unless McCain gaffe's badly

still, it's pleasant idea

the question still is... who do we want to be president?

[mattclearing]

5. Based on the strength of the campaigns, clearly you want Obama.

Raised more money from more people, and has more votes, more states, more delegates. His campaign is disciplined and doesn't air any dirty laundry...those are all qualities you want in a President.

[crankychatter]

7. it's an end run around the lock that PACs have on our electoral process

he has a lot of other positives...

but that's the ONE that keeps me going above all

My black family thinks I'm crazy... especially my GF

I finally got it out of her... aside from all the cynical stuff about the Duopoly... she's afraid for him.

She doesn't support Obama because she loves him... loves his family... knows by looking at him HOW MUCH he LOVES his family

she believes he'll die in vain...

yeah, I'm for Obama... but I'm a lot more AGAINST the forces that are against HIM, than I am FOR HIM.

if that makes sense...

[mattclearing]

11. I have the same fears.

Still, he chose to stand up. We must support him and hope for the best.

[Thor_MN]

9. I do have a preference, but I've been "Anyone but Bush" since about April of 2000.

I've disliked him since the moment I became aware of him.

Regardless of who wins the primary, I will be voting for the Democratic candidate. The MSM is currently stirring the pot, feeding off the primary. The fall campaigns won't be much of a draw. I'd like to see a day or week of the Democratic candidates focused only on "We will kick some Republic Ass this fall" just to reaffirm the message that once we choose a candidate, they may as well start working on their transition team.

[FrenchieCat]

2. So this means that Obama is the next President!

Wonderful!

I finally will get the President I was promised as a kid.

Makes sense.

[mattclearing]

3. I was trying to make this point yesterday...this is like the semifinal that makes the final

completely irrelevant.

[casus belli]

4. I agree, McCain is a time bomb ready to explode

He'll lose his temper once the pot starts getting hot. It's impossible for people to hide what they are forever. I fully expect another rant on par with the one in which he referred to Asians as "gooks" in the 2000 primary.

No one in their right mind would put that guy anywhere near the button.

[graycem]

6. I agree..

I think some candidates have been running a GE campaign for a while now. That's why the mud stinks so bad. They act like they're running against a Republican.

[MrSlayer]

8. Yeah, IF you take that as a given.

I'm not even close to ready to say that McCain has no chance. Not with the recent voting history and ADD mentality of this country. Not with Diebold and ES&S still holding power. Not with the corporate propaganda machine in full stride. Oh no, he's got a chance, maybe an even chance. This should have been a shoo-in for us but we fucked it up again.

[chknltl]

10. Yep, I agree. Recommended

Been sayin so to friends since mCcain won his party's nom. We The People have felt the sting/stink of 7 years of bushco. It doesn't matter which party you are in, if you are in the Middle Class, (majority of the electorate) or the Poor (even more angry electorate), you are waaaaaay fed up with bushco and ready for change. The corporatists OTOH favor mCbush but We the People outnumber them. As soon as mCsame got the nom., I was very very happy with this because I knew that his bid was doomed from the start.

[bluerum]

12. The worst president ever was wrapped in that bag in 2004 - and he won.

[DFW]

13. McCain will get far more than 25%

He'll get that 45% of the country that will vote Republican, even if they
run a ticket of Benedict Arnold and John Dillinger. Plus he'll get those
few who (mind you, purely on principle only, right) will vote Republican
as a protest vote because their own choice (Obinton or Clama) wasn't nominated.
Add to that the fraud that is guaranteed to happen again, voters in heavily
Democratic areas being refused the right to vote, Republican-programmed voting
machines changing results, etc. etc. Add in a few thousand who will vote for
Ralph Nader because he's still there.


Even if it's a landslide for us, it'll be close. If it goes to the Supreme Court
again, then we all know the result: 5-4 against us.

I actually agree that HRC and BHO are campaigning for the nomination as if they were
campaigning for the presidency. I'm just not sure either of them realizes that with
all the advantages we SHOULD have, either one of them would still be the underdog.
This is NOT a lock, even though it should be.

[applegrove]

14. I agree. Good point.