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aaroh Donating Member (460 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-30-08 08:39 AM
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Predict the Future
Its June 30 and the majority of the superdelegates has declared there pledges. Obama comes up with the most pledged delegates and pushes him over the magic figure, 2024. Howard Dean, Nancy Pelosi, Harry Reid and the party elders urge Hillary Clinton to concede defeat but Hillary argues that the MI and FL delegates should be seated which would propel her to the lead. Hillary is unwilling to budge til the August convention.

It's mid-July, on DU Obama supporters and Hill supporters are bickering back and forth over whether Hillary should step down. The MSM is loving it, airing controveries left right and centre. Meanwhile Obama decides to begin his nation-wide campaign against John McCain. Hillary Clinton follows suit. This is mayhem.

It's the end of July and the dust has settled. Obama is pursuaded by party insiders to offer Hillary the VP role to stem the bleeding. Hillary hesitantly takes up the VP offer and the democrats begins to lick their wounds and unite. Obama privately gives Governor Kathleen Sebelius a call and apologizes for not offering her the VP role as they had earlier agreed in private. "Don't worry about it Mr President, I understand how it is " - Kathleen graciously accepts Obama's apology.

It's November and Obama/Clinton wins by a landslide as the polls suggests. McCain graciously concedes defeat and the GOP begins with their soul searching.

That's the story playing in my head right now. What's inside yours?

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mattclearing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-30-08 08:41 AM
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1. I'd really like Sibelius for VP except that it doesn't help him on national security.
I think Webb or Clark are still the best choices. Either one delivers a state that would otherwise be difficult at best.
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aaroh Donating Member (460 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-30-08 08:48 AM
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2. yeah I agree, that's one major weakness
but she brings the mid-west into play, women voters and white voters. Although Obama can always announce his foreign advisory team at the same time.
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mattclearing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-30-08 09:20 AM
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5. True, but his foreign advisory team doesn't have as much punch if they don't debate someone.
I'd rather have a take-no-shit guy like Webb thrash a Republican in a debate.
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-30-08 08:49 AM
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3. I have a lot of faith in Howard Dean and in his ability to read the
shifts in the wind.

In quiet, very private meetings in hotel suites, Senator Clinton's campaign gurus know that she has lost the nomination, that the arithmetic is not there for her to recoup lost ground that would persuade the supes not to bleed toward Obama, AND that the longer she stays in claiming the "fightin' blue-collar" vote, the more she alienates the people supporting the man who's actually outflanked her for the nomination.

If she is interested in an influential role in the party from this point forward beyond being a FOX News regular, she should probably acknowledge what virtually every county Democrat chair knows, namely that Barack Obama is the nominee of our party and that the notion of her as a veep choice would alienate more independents than it would unify the Hillary backers.

I honestly don't know what role she wants in the party in the future, but she's jeopardizing it, IMO, by subtracting from our fight against McCain. She's even praised McCain, and at the expense of her opponent no less. The Ferraro race-baiting on FOX News with John Gibson was disgraceful and beneath the dignity of an icon in our party. The Big Dog is off his game. The recent stunt with the gax tax relief is either silly or incompetent or both. The Clinton campaign has excess snow shovels left over from the over-order in Iowa and not one speech writer, unless they DO have a speechwriter but he or she blew his or her brains out long ago.

Alan Cranston did not last long as a candidate for the Democratic nomination in contests past. But he ran a hell of a lot better campaign than Hillary Clinton is running this year.
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hogwyld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-30-08 08:52 AM
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4. And a few months after the inauguration
Some scandal on the Clintons pops up, and he asks for her resignation...
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Avalux Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-30-08 09:22 AM
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6. I can't accept Hillary as the VP. Would be suicide for Obama.
She'd spend the four years in office subversively sabotaging Obama so she could run again; and then there's Bill - he wouldn't be able to keep his mouth shut. It would be a mess and Obama would get nothing accomplished.
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CK_John Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-30-08 09:24 AM
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7. Obama suspends his campaign May 8th. n/t
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Robbins Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-30-08 10:04 AM
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8. Prediction
Obama wins North Carolona by 10,wins Oregon North Dakota,and Montana by 12,and narrowly wins
Guam.Hillary wins Indiana by 4,Kentucky and West Virginia by 20(she will get 60 percent Obama 40)
and Puerto Rico by 12.

Gore,Edwards,Pelosi,Reid,and other heavy remaing superdelgates come out for Obama.She vows to go
to the Convention.In July Dean calls on her to drop out.She and her surrogates denounce him.
Several of Hillary's super delgates defect to Obama shortly before the convention.

The Clintons try to use Florida and michigan.at the convention Florida and Michigan superdelgates
are striped of voting and Florida Is stripped of half It's delgation,and Michigan 60 percent of
It's delegation.

Obama offers the VP slot to Wesley Clark.He wants a Hillary supporter than he can trust to try to
bring the party together.

The Clintons refuse to make an public endorsement of Obama.They send out written letter of support and sit out the fall campaign.
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