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TeamJordan23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-30-08 11:31 AM
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Clinton on Obama: “He Made His Views Clear — Finally”
Hillary comments to Bill O’Reilly on rival’s Wright press conference.

http://thepage.time.com/2008/04/30/clinton-he-made-his-views-clear-finally/

When will Hillary make her views on going to war with other countries clear?
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my3boyz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-30-08 11:33 AM
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1. Hillary can go to hell! nt
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NYCGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-30-08 11:36 AM
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7. She's going on O'Reilly's show. That is hell. NT
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Lady-Damai Donating Member (756 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-30-08 02:13 PM
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43. If there is a Hell......Hillary Clinton and Karl Rove will be bunk buddies. n/t
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CBGLuthier Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-30-08 11:33 AM
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2. So she is going to go on Fox
on O'Reilly no less and start attacking democrats.


If this doesn't finish her as a candidate it is time to start calling her supporters lemmings.
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SeaLyons Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-30-08 11:44 AM
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Obama on Fox is different????
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CBGLuthier Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-30-08 12:00 PM
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28. Yes
Edited on Wed Apr-30-08 12:01 PM by notmypresident
Fox is one thing, they were calling him out.

O'Reilly is a piece of shit and if he had said about me, what he has said about the Clintons, I would not go on HIS show.

Because I have integrity.

This proves she does not.

EDIT: Also, did Obama attack any democrats while on Fox?
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knixphan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-30-08 12:19 PM
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33. did Obama attack any democrats while on Fox?
bingo!!
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-30-08 02:03 PM
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39. you call what she said an attack? silly you. your hate is showing
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-30-08 02:06 PM
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41. Obama goes on FOX when he is crying and his polls are sinking.
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emilyg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-30-08 01:37 PM
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35. Obama was on Fox - twice.
Carry on.
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islandmkl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-30-08 11:34 AM
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3. '...some say....'
you have some 'finally's' of your own, Hillary...

don't plan on saving them until November.
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leftofcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-30-08 11:44 AM
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18. "Some say" Is that you Michelle Malkin?
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ErinBerin84 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-30-08 11:35 AM
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4. I am really making an effort to be more..diplomatic in my criticism of Hillary
lately. But my gut reaction is just " Jesus Christ, shut the fuck up, Hillary."
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rurallib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-30-08 12:15 PM
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31. plain yet precise reaction - I agree.
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MadBadger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-30-08 11:36 AM
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5. As Far as I know, Round 2
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msallied Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-30-08 11:36 AM
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6. She can't possibly make her own views clear...
Edited on Wed Apr-30-08 11:39 AM by msallied
because she doesn't have any that don't serve political opportunity. I truly find the woman completely devoid of a sense of personal values. It's why I don't think I've ever liked or trusted her.

Case in point, after having praised John McCain saying that they both have the necessary experience and leadership skills to run this country, she then lambastes Obama for saying that all three candidates are better than George W. Bush. Her political compass is in constant spin mode.
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speedoo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-30-08 12:09 PM
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30. I could not have said it better. Hillary is a complete phony.
She's dishonest to her core.

Whatever moral values she may have are obscured by her complete craveness for power and wealth.

People see it and that's why she has such high negatives.
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Cali_Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-30-08 11:37 AM
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8. Finally?
When will Hillary finally STFU?
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crankychatter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-30-08 11:37 AM
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9. snark
that's why I can't even listen to her anymore

it's always complaining complaining...

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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-30-08 11:37 AM
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10. OK, hillypoo, time for YOU to make clear your views on the push polling
your cronies are doing in NC.
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TexasObserver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-30-08 11:38 AM
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11. She's proud to be for the war, then not so proud, then against it, then against it FIRST!
Depending on time of day, venue, and presence of cameras, she will take one or all of those positions on any given day.

She votes for cluster bombs, but it's Rev Wright she cries herself to sleep over, because God knows she would never associate with anyone like that - except the uber Christians she already worships with.
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msallied Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-30-08 11:39 AM
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12. She had no problem with Wright when Bill invited him to the WH, either.
Whichever way the wind blows. That's our Hill.
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rucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-30-08 11:39 AM
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13. She should run with Arnold as her VP...
Obliterator/Governator in '08!
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jefferson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-30-08 11:39 AM
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14. Finally...
We'll be rid of you soon, Hillary.
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TexasLady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-30-08 11:39 AM
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15. It's embarrassing to see a Dem jump on the RW train all the time
Issues that matter, PLEASE???!!!

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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-30-08 02:08 PM
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42. yeah, we know O. appears on Fox when he is in deep do-doo and needs to EXPLAIN hisself!!
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DJ13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-30-08 11:40 AM
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16. Screw her and her Republican campaign
I've had enough of her.
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The_Counsel Donating Member (844 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-30-08 11:40 AM
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17. Whatever, Hillary.
I see the NY Senator is happily going along with the M$M's "how come he didn't do it earlier" meme. It's the only way she'll keep this thing going and not lose ground.

It's sad really.

And to think I voted for her twice. I won't let THAT shit happen again, though... :banghead:
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Triana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-30-08 11:45 AM
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19. Yes he has. Hillary should take lessons from him on that. n/t
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Cant trust em Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-30-08 11:45 AM
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20. She is so eye-roll worthy I'm getting dizzy
:crazy:
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Schema Thing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-30-08 11:46 AM
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21. "finally" = less than 24 hours
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smalll Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-30-08 02:19 PM
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45. No, "finally" = more than 20 years. /nt
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City Lights Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-30-08 11:47 AM
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22. Bite me, Hill.
Who are you to pass judgment on Obama?

You sicken me.
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Apollo11 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-30-08 11:50 AM
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23. This quote is a statement of fact. NOT a "personal attack".
Edited on Wed Apr-30-08 11:51 AM by Apollo11
But if Barack can't stand the heat, there is always the exit ...
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stillcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-30-08 11:55 AM
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25. That is an "opinion"
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stillcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-30-08 11:52 AM
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24. When will Hillary tell us about her...
spiritual mentor? I think her decision to be involved with this Prayer Group for the last 15 years needs to be scrutinized. What has she been listening to, while sitting there? How does this impact her judgment? Do we really need another fundamentalist?
Hillary's Prayer: Hillary Clinton's Religion and Politics
Clinton's prayer group was part of the Fellowship (or "the Family"), a network of sex-segregated cells of political, business, and military leaders dedicated to "spiritual war" on behalf of Christ, many of them recruited at the Fellowship's only public event, the annual National Prayer Breakfast. (Aside from the breakfast, the group has "made a fetish of being invisible," former Republican Senator William Armstrong has said.) The Fellowship believes that the elite win power by the will of God, who uses them for his purposes. Its mission is to help the powerful understand their role in God's plan.
----------------------------------------------------
Coe's friends include former Attorney General John Ashcroft, Reaganite Edwin Meese III, and ultraconservative Rep. Joe Pitts (R-Pa.). Under Coe's guidance, Meese has hosted weekly prayer breakfasts for politicians, businesspeople, and diplomats, and Pitts rose from obscurity to head the House Values Action Team, an off-the-record network of religious right groups and members of Congress created by Tom DeLay. The corresponding Senate Values Action Team is guided by another Coe protégé, Brownback, who also claims to have recruited King Abdullah of Jordan into a regular study of Jesus' teachings.

The Fellowship's long-term goal is "a leadership led by God—leaders of all levels of society who direct projects as they are led by the spirit." According to the Fellowship's archives, the spirit has in the past led its members in Congress to increase U.S. support for the Duvalier regime in Haiti and the Park dictatorship in South Korea. The Fellowship's God-led men have also included General Suharto of Indonesia; Honduran general and death squad organizer Gustavo Alvarez Martinez; a Deutsche Bank official disgraced by financial ties to Hitler; and dictator Siad Barre of Somalia, plus a list of other generals and dictators. Clinton, says Schenck, has become a regular visitor to Coe's Arlington, Virginia, headquarters, a former convent where Coe provides members of Congress with sex-segregated housing and spiritual guidance.

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These days, Clinton has graduated from the political wives' group into what may be Coe's most elite cell, the weekly Senate Prayer Breakfast. Though weighted Republican, the breakfast—regularly attended by about 40 members—is a bipartisan opportunity for politicians to burnish their reputations, giving Clinton the chance to profess her faith with men such as Brownback as well as the twin terrors of Oklahoma, James Inhofe and Tom Coburn, and, until recently, former Senator George Allen (R-Va.). Democrats in the group include Arkansas Senator Mark Pryor, who told us that the separation of church and state has gone too far; Joe Lieberman (I-Conn.) is also a regular.

Unlikely partnerships have become a Clinton trademark. Some are symbolic, such as her support for a ban on flag burning with Senator Bob Bennett (R-Utah) and funding for research on the dangers of video games with Brownback and Santorum. But Clinton has also joined the gop on legislation that redefines social justice issues in terms of conservative morality, such as an anti-human-trafficking law that withheld funding from groups working on the sex trade if they didn't condemn prostitution in the proper terms. With Santorum, Clinton co-sponsored the Workplace Religious Freedom Act; she didn't back off even after Republican senators such as Pennsylvania's Arlen Specter pulled their names from the bill citing concerns that the measure would protect those refusing to perform key aspects of their jobs—say, pharmacists who won't fill birth control prescriptions, or police officers who won't guard abortion clinics.

http://www.motherjones.com/news/feature/2007/09/hillarys-prayer-3.html
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jasmine621 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-30-08 11:56 AM
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26. She has made her views CLEAR. You just don't like her views. nt
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MadBadger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-30-08 11:56 AM
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27. And Obama made his views clear back in March.
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stray cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-30-08 12:08 PM
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29. Obama said Wright didn't speak for him months ago - wasn't Hillary paying attention?
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janetle Donating Member (395 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-30-08 01:53 PM
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37. No she wasn't
I was shocked when she said she did not listen to his Philadelphia speech. I thought at the time this was a huge disrespect to him.
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Bensthename Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-30-08 12:16 PM
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32. No surprise coming from the McCain/Clinton camp..
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gal Donating Member (534 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-30-08 12:38 PM
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34. To bad
To bad Hillary didn't make her views on NAFTA known until election time huh?
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CakeGrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-30-08 01:39 PM
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36. Make your views clear on NAFTA and Colombia Hillary...or STFU.
Edited on Wed Apr-30-08 01:40 PM by CakeGrrl
I guess when you've committed to throwing the kitchen sink and crawling into bed with the NeoCons, you might as well go all in.

:grr:
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Indenturedebtor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-30-08 02:01 PM
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38. Yeah here's my view if you want clarity HRC
Go fuck yourself. You lost and McDeath isn't gonna make you veep so stop kissing his ass.
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-30-08 02:04 PM
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40. On the other hand...
Clinton's views have been clear since her comments re: MLK before the NH primary.
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BlueIdaho Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-30-08 02:15 PM
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44. Butter wouldn't melt in that girl's mouth.
So blinded by ambition she has lost the ability to show compassion to anyone but herself.
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