Peace and Prosperity vs. Monica?

[question everything]

At least, it appears that some Obama supporters choose to remember the 90s that way..


In Evoking Good of '90s, Clinton Risks Memories of the Bad
By AMY CHOZICK
April 30, 2008; Page A7

CHARLOTTE, N.C. -- Sen. Hillary Clinton is reminding economically hard-hit voters how much better they had it in the 1990s, but bringing up the past also risks taking them back to the scandals and partisan divides associated with former President Bill Clinton -- memories Sen. Barack Obama has tried to exploit. The criticism points to an enduring problem within the Clinton campaign. For more than a year, Clinton aides have grappled with how to emphasize the positive aspects of the Clinton presidency while allowing Sen. Clinton to forge her own identity and avoid being a reminder of what people didn't like about the 1990s.

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The former first lady recently began citing more statistics about the decade. Her stump speech now paints a detailed portrait of a time when the World Trade Center towers were still standing, more than 22 million jobs were created, the budget was balanced and the average American family's income increased by $7,000. "Sometimes during this campaign I hear criticism of the 1990s. That's fair. It's an election and we've got to expect to be criticized," Sen. Clinton told an audience last week in Fayetteville, N.C. She continued with a line she has repeated often: "But I always wonder what part of the 1990s they didn't like: the peace or the prosperity?"

The predicament this creates for her campaign was on display during a "Solutions for a Strong Military" event last week in Asheville, N.C. Standing on the stage with retired generals, Sen. Clinton spoke proudly of the relative peace during her husband's administration. "Compared to what we saw during the 1990s, we have fallen backward," she said. Just then, an Obama supporter in the audience yelled, "Yeah, but your husband also got impeached for infidelity," referring to the Monica Lewinsky scandal.

At a forum in Kokomo, Ind., last week, Sen. Obama blamed Sen. Clinton's failure to achieve health-care reform in the early years of her husband's first term on the secrecy and divisiveness of his administration. "All these folks talk about how much experience they've got. Why is it that they haven't been able to get it done?" he said. Sen. Clinton's efforts to balance the good times of the 1990s while dodging the bad have intensified as the race has moved into Indiana and North Carolina, which hold their contests next week, and West Virginia and Kentucky, which vote on May 13 and May 20, respectively. These states have low-income, rural demographics -- similar to those found in Mr. Clinton's native Arkansas -- whose members particularly prospered during the 1990s, Clinton aides say. Sen. Clinton "is associated with a decade synonymous with job growth and economic stability," says Indiana Sen. Evan Bayh, a Clinton backer. Phyllis Pate, a 67-year-old retired government worker and Clinton supporter in Lumberton, N.C., says fond memories of the 1990s helped her decide to vote for Sen. Clinton. "Bill got us out of the deficit. She can get us out of the deficit, too," Ms. Pate says.

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The number of employees on nonagricultural payrolls grew from 109.7 million in January 1993, when Mr. Clinton took office, to 132.5 million in January 2001, according to the Bureau of Labor Statistics. The number of people living in poverty decreased from 38 million in 1992 to 31 million in 2000, according to the Census Bureau.

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[islandmkl]

1. hell, i can't wait to vote for JFK and bring back the '60s....

THAT decade had it ALL....

[question everything]

6. Right, 58,000 dead in Vietnam

Glad you like it.

[barack the house]

2. Memories of NAFTA the one main one to focus on I'd say.

[AllentownJake]

3. When Bill

Is on the Ballot again let me know.

[anonymous171]

4. Senator Rodham failed in her promise to bring jobs to her state.

She's a liar and a failure.

[PBS Poll-435]

5. Monica Lewinsky is the Greatest Threat to Humanity Since the Invention of The Atomic Bomb!

:rofl:

[BenDavid]

7. I am going to post something I posted back in 06 and 07 about

you obama folks ranting about Bill and his magical powerful penis. Hell, some of you are like timmy russert who cannot seem to let go of Bill's penis......


This fever against HRC reminds me of the GOP's impeachment fever back in 1998. Bill's impeachment was like a criminal assault and battery. NOTHING was going to stop that impeachment because they had the fever. The GOP was "caught up" with impeachment fever - that's all they could see or hear. Bill's approval rating was in the 70s - and voters clearly didn't want him to be impeached, but like the criminal who can't stop until he assaults enough,or caught, it was GOING to happen.

Hell, the GOP lost seats in November of 1998 - but that didn't matter to them. NOTHING was going to stop that impeachment because they had the fever. They lived and breathed impeachment the way some people are now living and breathing "Stop her!"

IF YOU,LIKE ANOTHER CANDIDATE BETTER THAN HRC,VOTE FOR HIM...... But when I read some of the vitriolic criticism directed towards HRC, you got the fever and that tells me something.You have the fever, bad!

And to THOSE DEMOCRATS, "I'll vote Republican before I'll vote for Her," Democrats need to worry because your "Stop her!" fever is turning you into what the GOP was in 1998.

March 2007

Ben David

[jasmine621]

9. And please remember that several of the rabid House Managers

were themselves caught up in indiscretions of their own and had to eventually step aside...you know they became the people living in glass houses. For most of the rabid Hillary and Bill haters they know damn well that most of them have had to deal with a cheating spouse or they themselves have not lived up to their own marriage vows. And bullshit about "But he was President and he lied under oath" I take him and Monica at their word. A BJ to both of them was not "having sexual relations." I remember Monica saying that in an interview. To many people, oral sex is not intercourse which is usually regarded as "having sex." But that aside, most women want their husbands to lie to them about adulterous affairs. This is all so very personal to families who suffer the humiliation and hurt, yet for the Hillary haters they seem to have no recognition of what she and Chelsea went through and continue to go through. So she decided to keep her family together, forgive (maybe?), and reconcile. She is vilified for not having dumped Bill, busted up her family and accused of staying with him for her own political ambitions. But here is the rub: had she dumped Bill, the way Obama finally dumped Wright, wouldn't you haters out there accuse of having dumped Bill to further her own political ambitions? Come on, sure you would be. You just hate Hillary for being Hillary, that's all. And I sure have much more respect for those haters out there who just fess up and say "I don't like the woman" instead of making up all those hypocritical and contradictory reasons for disliking her.

[CatsDogsBabies]

8. Do people actually believe that voting for HRC will bring back the 90s?

This mystifies me. Sometimes it seems to all ust blend together in people's minds, like they really believe they are voting for WJC now. It is a bit creepy to me. I don't think HRC will get the dem nomination, and I think if she did get it, she wouldn't win against McCain, but if she managed to do both these things and the Clintons returned to the White House, I can't imagine how weird thigs would become. Do you think WJC would know he isn't the President anymore? DO you think there would be weird power struggles between them? I don't believe the HRC candidacy is a good thing.