If Obama having listened to Wright preach for 20 years

[Cheap_Trick]

means that Obama MUST agree with all of Wright's beliefs, then it stands to reason that since Hillary has been with Bill for 40 years or so, then she MUST believe that being a serial adulterer is OK.

[kid a]

1. or she must be cheating on Bill too, by that logic.

[LSparkle]

24. Hmm ... and with whom?

Just askin' ...

[knixphan]

36. with NAFTA! :)

[PoliticalAmazon]

41. If she had been listening to what was going on in the WH, we might have been spared....

...years of Bill's DickGates.

[FrenchieCat]

2. And didn't she pick her husband?

:shrug:

[Cant trust em]

3. It's a pretty good point. NT

[Cha]

4. bil clinton is a bigger drag around

someone's neck than Wright would ever be.

[niyad]

5. sorry, obama is trying to say that he has heard wright preach for 20 years and didn't

know WHAT he was preaching. that is bs.

[Cant trust em]

9. No. What he is saying is that he heard him preach for 20 years

and most of it isn't about racial divisions, or the U.S. government's role in terrorism, or the U.S. Government introducing AIDS into the black community.

[niyad]

17. BS --the pastors in the area have said (should have listened to KO that night)

that wright's rhetoric is well-known. sorry, your attempt to pretend that obama didn't know what wright was saying is pathetic.

you know, the first time I heard the priest in my church support the encyclicals on birth control, I left. it really is that simple--didn't take me 20 years to figure out what he was saying.

[Cant trust em]

26. Of course controversial topics appear every now and then

but to pretend that they are the focus of the everyday goings on in the church is not realistic.

[casus belli]

31. With all due respect, you have no idea what is and isn't BS.

Many infuential people have been and are members of the church. Are you suggesting they ALL embrace militant theology? I'm sure Oprah would be surprised to hear you say that.

[uponit7771]

6. Hillary said she'd do it on the back of a flatbed truck. Just taking her words out of context but it

...was fun

[Cheap_Trick]

7. hey, it's a sport for Hillary supporters

why should we let them have all the fun?

[PBS Poll-435]

8. Who is Wright?

[flpoljunkie]

10. Ha!

[haymakeragain]

25. More like, who gives a shit about Wright.

Nice try though. He's still kickin' your "girl's" ass.

[PBS Poll-435]

27. Yawn...Shouldn't you be making calls...

NC is starting to look a little dicey...

[keep_it_real]

11. Obama has not said it but I don't think he was a big deal church goer

In some of the interviews with him and his wife he says that Sundays were, I don't remember the exact wording, family days, or something to that effect. But it lead me to think, him the family were not always. at church on Sundays. But he just can't come out and say, well I didn't always go to church on Sunday. Although, to someone like me, saying such would not bother me.

[Cant trust em]

21. They can go to church as a family. Then come home and do things as a family.

But I also think its unfortunate that America expects their politicians to:

A. Be religious even though we talk about the separation of church and state, so therefore ask them to check their religion at the door.
B. Go to church every Sunday and if they don't, suddenly try to label them as not religious enough.

[beezlebum]

12. adultery, not so much where i am concerned.

policy, yes. she must share beliefs on nafta and all of his other mistakes and mispeakings and poor policies and blah blah blah. oh but she is running, not her husband...

[grantcart]

13. well if listening to Wright gave Obama the perspective to stand up against the War then

why didn't Clinton denounce her pastor and find a new church for not being more strident against the war - unless she thinks that God likes this war.

[Cheap_Trick]

14. all good right wingers believe that God loves war

I think that they secretly worship Ares, Mars, or Daizan....

[Saturday]

15. You're a flamebaiting idiot. nt

[Cheap_Trick]

18. sure I am, because I turn the Hillbot logic back at them.

piss off, skippy.

[DearAbby]

16. I'll take useless threads for 1,000!

[Cheap_Trick]

20. I'll take washed up political hacks for the win, Alex

Answer: This Republican-lite posing as a Democrat unsuccessfully tried to run for President in 2008, resulting in Epic Fail.

Question: Who is Hillary Clinton?

[DearAbby]

39. Stick to the issues

Bill's infidelity is not the fault of Hillary...That is trash talk, lets be better than that.

How does this bullshit address Iraq? How does it address the failing economy and the falling value of the dollar? How does it address actual issues we face here in this country each and every day?

[Cheap_Trick]

42. apparently Reverend Wright IS an issue

I'm just taking hillbot "logic" to it's ultimate conclusion. I never said Bill's cheating was her fault, just that if she's been exposed to his beliefs for 40 years, then she must agree with them, using the same argument that they have used against Obama/Wright.

[Jed Dilligan]

19. I think her involvement in the Fellowship/Family is a better analogy.

[Cheap_Trick]

22. but her church isn't getting any play from the MSM....yet

THIS is a well established fact that Bill couldn't(or can't) keep it in his pants.

[Jed Dilligan]

23. There saving the sexy stuff for when she gets in the GE

That's their plan, I think.

[BattyDem]

28. How many Catholics disagree with the church?

My whole family is Catholic. They don't agree with the church on issues like divorce, birth control, abortion and homosexuality. Millions of Catholics disagree with the church's position on at least some of those issues. Should everyone leave the church?

For years, the church hierarchy covered up sex abuse by priests. Is every Catholic responsible for that? Even after the abuse and the cover-up became common knowledge, Catholics continue to go to church. Are they bad people? Should they all be held responsible for the abuse?

So ... why is Barack Obama expected to answer for everything Jeremiah Wright has ever said or done? Why is it presumed that Obama agrees 100% with church doctrine and/or the views of the pastor? I don't know anyone who agrees with their church 100% of the time ... do you? Why is his church being portrayed as being full of hate, when it has done wonderful work in the community? Are all the parishioners of that church "unAmerican" or is it just Obama?

RW pastors have been saying outrageous and offensive things for years, yet no one has a problem with members of the GOP associating with them or attending their churches. John McCain has been endorsed by John Hagee, yet McCain is not being grilled about his beliefs. He's not forced to answer for every horrible thing Hagee has ever said.

Why?

[snacker]

35. THANK YOU...

that is exactly the point. My mother is a devout Catholic but she believes supports gay marriage and abortion rights. She once walked out of church when the priest gave a sermon about the evils of homosexuality, but SHE STILL IS STILL A MEMBER OF THAT CHURCH. That same priest baptized her children, but that doesn't mean they are best buddies. She goes to church to attend Mass not to worship the priest.

[SeaLyons]

29. Flamebait Garbage....

[Cheap_Trick]

37. well, your opinion means absolutely nothing to me

I turned hillbot "logic" back upon you, so your response means I hit a nerve.

[shaniqua6392]

30. Wow.

Just wow. I can not believe some of the stuff that is on DU now.

[ihelpu2see]

32. ot cool Cheap Trick icon. nt

[Cheap_Trick]

38. ty

Rockford was their best album (cd?) in a long time. As much as if not more of a back to basics approach since 1997's self titled "Cheap Trick".

[ihelpu2see]

40. ot One of the very first concerts I went to(1986). They opened for REO Speedwagon. REO sucked.

CheapTrick kicked Ass.

[Cheap_Trick]

43. as they always do

:) Can't wait for the Cheap Trick/Journey/Heart tour this summer.

[SoCalDem]

33. and a liar..

:puke:

[TheZug]

34. But Bill wasn't black.