Is Hillary campaigning to be McCain's running mate?

[Fly by night]

First the pro-war (and endless war) positions.

Then adopting McCain's lame gas tax rebate.

Then sucking up to the Faux Noos Nazis.

Then implementing classic Rethugligan voter suppression tactics vis a vis NC robocalls.


Let me say that, never in my lifetime (or in any previous lifetime), have I voted for a Rethug for President. (I can't say the same for down-ticket races since, here in Tennessee, we have run active alcoholics and coke dealers for Governor in the past.) I have also never missed voting in an election except in 2006 when my voting rights were temporarily suspended as a result of my federal medical marijuana conviction. (I have since had my voting rights restored.)

But some of Clinton's positions and tactics are bothering me mightily at this moment and pushing me into a Democratic quandry. Why should I vote for someone when too many of her policy positions and political tactics are indistinguishable from the Farces of Evil (McCain and his Rethugligan ilk)? I know all the traditional arguments (e.g., Supreme Count appointees, etc). But, really, I would like to do everything in my power to make DINOs truly extinct. Right now, I'm wondering if that will mean casting my first "none of the above" non-vote in November.

I sure hope not.

[anonymous171]

1. No. She just lies like a repug.

[Fly by night]

2. One shameless self-kick 'cause ... (well, I'm shameless).

[BOSSHOG]

3. Yes You are !!!!!

[Fly by night]

4. Thanks. Finally something we can all agree on.

Where in Mississippi do you live? I'm part of the seventh generation of my family born in Columbus (fondly known as "Possum Town" to us locals.) Couldn't wait to move "north" (to Tennessee) as soon as I graduated from the last segregated class at S.D. Lee High School.

[BOSSHOG]

17. Out in the sticks

northwest of Kiln. Pretty good locale, about 60 miles from the French Quarter and about 40 miles from Gulfport. Not a native, I'm retired Navy and my wife has a good job. We will most likely pull chocks and fly away to somewhere else when the mood strikes her. I'm happy tending to my tomato plants.

[Bensthename]

5. GOP know they can not win on real issues so they act like this. Hillary has the same problem.

She ran a year trying to win on the issues and it didnt work so now she is doing this.......
And people are falling for it. Thus the reason for Bush winning 2 times.

[Triana]

6. Bingo! n/t

[Fly by night]

7. Sad, but true.

[Arkansas Granny]

8. No, she is not. People keep floating this crap, but it doesn't make it true.

[Fly by night]

11. What "crap" are you referring to?

The things I mentioned are indisputable. As is her comment that she and McLame are "experienced" enough to be C-I-C but Obama is not.

Believe me, I think this current pile of Rethugs are the devil's spawn and I would never think of voting for any of them. But with Democrats like Hillary, who needs Rethugligans?

[Arkansas Granny]

13. The crap that she would run as McCain's running mate.

Here are her remarks from the Pennsylvania debate:

Well, Charlie, I'm going to do everything I possibly can to make sure that one of us takes the oath of office next January. I think that has to be the overriding goal, whatever we have to do.

Obviously we are still contesting to determine who will be the nominee. But once that is resolved, I think it is absolutely imperative that our entire party close ranks, that we become unified.

I will do everything to make sure that the people who supported me support our nominee.

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/04/16/us/politics/16text-debate.html?_r=1&adxnnl=1&oref=slogin&pagewanted=print&adxnnlx=1209600040-WbvDakhcRwma9VbavHhjUQ

That doesn't sound like anyone who wants to run as a Republican.

[Fly by night]

15. I'm sorry. I thought DUers could recognize sarcasm.

Of course, I don't believe Hillary is running to be McCain's running mate. It just looks like it, both by her policy positions and her political behavior. She is doing much more harm to Obama than any Rethug and she is using tactics that are right out of the Karl Rove handbook.

Voter suppression tactics have NO PLACE in our party. Not now. Not ever.

Don't worry. I know McCain won't ask Hillary to serve. He doesn't want to lose the election.

[TragedyandHope]

9. Don't count your chickens...

[IndianaGreen]

10. You got to understand that Hillary is a clone of Joe Lieberman

Hil and Joe are exactly alike when it comes to neocon policies and war.

[Fly by night]

12. Maybe we could get the two of them to form the "Just-Us" Party

[TexasObserver]

14. If McCain would have her, she's probably consider it.

Hillary is for Hillary. She really doesn't have any values. She will say she's for anything that she thinks keeps her walking delusion going.

[ccharles000]

16. She has said that if she is not the nominee...

That she would help whoever it is get elected.

[styersc]

18. Reality check.

The War- Clinton's and Obama's voting record on the war, in 85 Senate votes, differs by only one vote when Obama voted for the appointment of one of Bush's Generals. An appointment that was opposed by Clinton. Previous to sitting in the Senate (for only 18 months before running for President) Obama gave speeches indicating he oposed the war but in later interviews admited that he didn't how he would have voted. Not quite the champion of peace.

McCain's Gas Tax Plan- Hillary will pay for her gas tax relief by charging the Petroleum industry win-fall profits tax. Finally sense in dealing with big petroleum.

Fox News- Hillary has enough backbone to face them. Obama could use such strength. It may have given him the courage to stand up to a pastor who told his congregation that a deadly disease was invented by a government to destroy minorities. I mean before it was politically empowering to do so.

NC Robocalls- All campaigns use phone calls. You seem to think that smearing Clinton on the internet is somehow superior to people, not directly associated with the Clinton campaign, making unsolicited calls in a primary state. You are wrong.

[Fly by night]

20. As I said in my OP, ...

... I have never voted for a Rethug for President and I doubt that I ever will. But to hear Hillary say (in addition to the points I made in the OP) that she and McLame are qualified to be Commander-In-Chief and (by omission) Obama is not is inexcusable. It's one thing to insult your Democratic opponent -- it is quite another to compliment (and complement) the Rethug candidate in the same breath.

In case you are interested, I have never posted a thread critical of Senator Clinton before, here or anywhere else. I guess my changing views are similar to those of the Indiana super-delegate who has now switched his support from Clinton to Obama. My guess is that we'll see more of that soon.

Clinton's recent behavior is similar to the comment made by an American officer in Vietnam who said that "we had to destroy that village to save it." If Hillary believes that "it takes a village ...", let's stop destroying the (Democratic) village that we have all chosen to "live in" for lo these many years. That will not save our party, and it will not rescue this country.

Peace out.

[Orsino]

19. No. She wants to lead the Democratic Party.

Just not in a direction all that different from McCain's.

[tinrobot]

21. Yes, because McCain is OLD

Being his VP is a better shot a president than going up against Obama at this point.

[Hope And Change]

22. K & R!

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