"Under Hillary Rules," she's winning (fantasy)

[ProSense]

Clinton playing by her own set of rules

By ROGER SIMON | 4/30/08 6:29 PM EST

Hillary Clinton leads Barack Obama in the popular vote, and this is her path to victory.

She will ultimately win the Democratic nomination by convincing the superdelegates that her popular vote lead makes it legitimate for them to support her. It gives them the cover they need to deny Obama a nomination that he otherwise would have won.

What’s wrong with this picture?

First, Clinton does not lead Obama in the popular vote. It is a fantasy.

Second, the people she most needs to convince that this fantasy is true are the people least likely to believe it.

Let’s first deal with Clinton’s fantasy lead in the popular vote.

“I’m very proud that as of today, I have received more votes by the people who have voted than anyone else,” Clinton said the day after her victory in the April 22 Pennsylvania primary.

But has she really? No. Not really. Not unless you throw out the existing rules of the Democratic Party and invent a new set of Hillary Rules.

Under Hillary Rules, Clinton counts the popular vote in Michigan, where she was the only major candidate on the ballot. The Democratic Party does not recognize those votes.

Under Hillary Rules, Clinton also counts the popular vote in Florida, where candidates were forbidden to campaign. The Democratic Party does not recognize the results of the Florida primary, either.

Under Hillary Rules, Clinton throws out the “votes by the people who have voted” in the states of Iowa, Nevada, Maine and Washington, because those were caucus states, where popular vote tallies were not officially kept and where, by the way, Obama won three out of the four contests.

Under Hillary Rules, Clinton gets to choose the contests that help her, throw out the contests that do not and declare herself the winner.

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Want proof it's over?

Go here, and then give Hillary 60% of the vote in IN, NC, OR, MT, SD, and 65% of the vote in WV, KY and PR.

[Coexist]

1. the people she most needs to convince ...are the people least likely to believe it"

best line.

[ProSense]

2. When will someone tell her and the people she's trying to delude that

it's over?

[cliffordu]

3. She's.....

TOAST!!!!

[ProSense]

7. Not yet, too many people in denial.

By the time they get a whiff of reality, she'll be burnt toast.

[americanstranger]

4. Sounds suspiciously like... this!

Clinton Ahead, If You Count Delegates Pledged in Her Mind

Muncie, Indiana - Presidential hopeful Hillary Rodham Clinton told a crowd of supporters here today that she is in fact ahead in pledged delegates “if you count the ones that are pledged in my mind.” The crowd cheered loudly at the declaration, but a moment later grew silent, seeming to take in the full scope of what Mrs. Clinton had just said.

She continued, “Yes. That’s right. You heard me. And I know you’ll agree that in this country, in this country we count every vote, every delegate. Even the ones that supposedly, ‘don’t exist.’ Don’t let them hook you in with that kind of scare tactic. These delegates exist, all right. They exist right up here,” she said, pointing to her head.

Following the speech, she spoke briefly with reporters. One asked, “Mrs. Clinton, do you honestly suggest that delegates that are pledged solely in your mind should count as much as, say, a delegate who is pledged in the actual, physical world?”

Mrs. Clinton seemed taken back by the question, and looked around exaggeratedly. “Hello? Hello? Is this America? Are we in America?” she asked, then turned back to the reporters. “I certainly hope they would count. I mean, come on. They’re pledged. What does it matter where they’re pledged? See, this is the kind of, ‘one place is superior to the other’ attitude that is really hurting this country.”

The reporter countered, “But this isn’t like the difference between Kansas and New York. This is the difference between a place that exists and…and a place that doesn’t.”

“Oh, oh, I see. I see,” Mrs. Clinton responded. “So my mind doesn’t exist. I see. I have no mind. And then you wonder why I and others sometimes think I’m not quite getting a fair shake from the press. Why don’t you go ask Senator Obama if he needs another pillow?”

http://thenationalprotrusion.com/2008/03/30/clinton-ahead-if-you-count-delegates-pledged-in-her-mind/

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That guy is the best.

- as

[cliffordu]

8. Pledged in my mind.....

:rofl: :rofl:

[TBF]

5. Obama had better beef up his security - I predict that she will be at his inauguration with her

clipboard still insisting that she has won.

[chill_wind]

6. "If this was a REPUBLICAN primary, I'd have WON by now!"

K&R

[OhioChick]

9. K&R

:kick:

[Tribetime]

10. I did 65% in all states and she still loses

[ProSense]

29. Yup, she has lost. n/t

[dailykoff]

11. Ready to lie from day one

and 35 years of experience to prove it.

[NJSecularist]

12. Latest North Carolina Poll - Clinton: 44, Obama: 42

http://www.southernpoliticalreport.com/storylink_430_370.aspx">It's not over.

[ProSense]

13. Can she going to win the enough delegates?

It's over.

[NJSecularist]

14. Is Obama going to get 2024 pledged delegates?

It's not over.

[ProSense]

15. When she can't take the pledged delegate lead, even by winning every contest with 65%,

it's over.

[NJSecularist]

16. When he can't reach the 2024 pledged delegate threshold, even if he wins every contest with 65%.

it's not over.

[ProSense]

18. Hillary will always be behind

It's over.

[NJSecularist]

19. Obama will never reach 2024 pledged delegates.

It's not over.

[ProSense]

20. Hillary will never reach Obama. It's over. Face it. Losing is not winning. n/t

[NJSecularist]

21. Hillary doesn't have to reach Obama. He won't get 2024 pledged delegates.

Thus, Hillary can win the nomination at the convention.

Facts are facts.

[ProSense]

22. No, it's not going to the convention. Obama only needs less than 295 delegates to win the nomination

Hillary cannot overtake him in pledged delegates. Hillary needs more than 430 delegates to get there.

Obama could win with the remaining supers alone.

[NJSecularist]

24. Sorry, this is going to the convention. The credentials committee will hear hear Hillary's case

before she drops out.

Facts are facts.

[ProSense]

25. OK, have your fantasy. It's never going to happen. n/t

[PseudoIntellect]

26. I can win the lottery tomorrow. Facts are facts.

Hillary does have to reach Obama, and she needs to do that at the convention by making a compelling argument for her ability to win more this fall despite losing more in the primaries. But it's looking more and more like the superdelegates as a whole are not buying anything.

This is a contest about winning, not about avoiding loss.

[PseudoIntellect]

23. No, but he will get there with the SDs.

[ProSense]

27. A lot of people are still pretending Hillary can win.

It's bizarre.

[Alii]

17. Brilliant!

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2008/president/nc/north_carolina_democratic_primary-275.html

It is over, get over it.

[ProSense]

28. The media gaming the polls

Look at SUSA trend for Indidana

Look at PPP and Rasmussen for North Carolina

They're using poll numbers for different polls to claim Obama's double-digit lead is eroding.

When was the last time Mason Dixon took a poll?