Sad

[Tropics_Dude83]

What has happened to Senator Obama is very sad. He was a superstar after that convention speech in 2004. A electrifying democrat unlike any we had seen in years. If only he had waited until 2012 or 2016 to run, things would have been different I'm sure. Wright would have been a distant memory and experience wouldn't have been an issue. He would have had a cakewalk to the nomination in 2012 or 2016. No long bitter primary battle. A superstar senate tour d''force for years.

Instead, we have just witnessed the fall of this party's brightest shining light. I'm not overjoyed to be supporting HRC at this point. She's just the best of the available candidates. Every democrat's heart should break for Barack and especially Michelle right now. Maybe he can follow President Jimmy Carter's post presidency route to rehabilitate his image once this campagin is over.

Anyway, yeah, I just wanted to thank Senator Obama for bringing new voters into the process and for creating tremendous excitement in this primary. I wish him all the best in his future endeavors. It's not like he'll read this or anything but still. Best wishes to them. And no one should dare question my sincerity in this post. It is 100% sincere. Thanks.

[mcctatas]

1. Oh goody...

I hadn't read a faux-concern post from a hillary supporter in at least 24 hours....
:yawn:

[cliffordu]

24. Right!!! Me either...

"This is Baghdad bob, coming to you from Clinton Headquarters: This just in, Hillary is now polling ABOVE Obama in South Carolina!!!"

[Tesha]

62. This reads like a Mafia hit man saying...

"You knowz, its tragic how dis guy slipped on dat bar
of soap in his shower and fell onto dose 42 .38 calibre
bullets. And even after dat bad luck, he still was strong
enough to manage to get back up and get to da stairs,
where he en fell down da stairs breaking both of his
legs, his arms,and his skull. And somehow he still
managed to get out da front door whereupon he was
accidentally hit and squashed flat as lasagna by dat
garbage truck dat somehow came screamin' around da corner
at dat moment.

What a tragic accident to happen to such a nice guy!"

Tesha

[reflection]

66. I don't care who you support.

This is extremely funny. Still laughing over here. :D

[DangerousRhythm]

68. ROFL!

This is so true.

:rofl:

[varelse]

69. How do I recommend this for a DUzy award?

:rofl:

[datopbanana]

2. Wright would have been a distant memory and experience wouldn't have been an issue.

Really?

[scheming daemons]

3. Epic Fail......

...he's going to be the nominee.... AND the next President.


...and you're going to look foolish for your flip-flopping....

[PBS Poll-435]

4. Obama will be a GREAT Senate Majority Leader or the next...

Illinos Governor!

[gravity]

5. Umm, Obama is gonna win the primary

and the election in the fall.

[Tropics_Dude83]

7. No he's not-he's behind in NC now 44-42 n/t

[scheming daemons]

10. Wow... you are hung up on one outlier poll, aren't ya?

...

[PBS Poll-435]

15. Well...Thanks to PPP, we all know how PA turned out...!

GOBAMA (for Secretary of Agriculture)

[datopbanana]

12. Like he was ahead +3 in PA?

PPP (D) 04/19 - 04/20 2338 LV 46 49 Obama +3.0

[Blue_Roses]

16. delusional too.

Rasmussen has him winning by 14pts. YOUR poll is done by a republican who used to work for Newt Gingrich:eyes: That pollster is known for unreliability and bias.

[PBS Poll-435]

17. WHOA...

:rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:

Defending REPUBLICAN POLLING AGENCIES?

:rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:v

[Blue_Roses]

26. laugh your gut out, but here's the facts...

North Carolina Democratic Primary
North Carolina: Obama 51% Clinton 37%
Tuesday, April 29, 2008

The latest Rasmussen Reports telephone survey of North Carolina’s Presidential Primary finds Barack Obama leading Hillary Clinton 51% to 37%.

more...
http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/election_20082/2008_presidential_election/north_carolina/north_carolina_democratic_primary

and here's your republican pollster: Matt Towery:aka/Newt's assistant.

Matt Towery served as the chairman of former Speaker Newt Gingrich's political organization from 1992 until Gingrich left Congress. He is a former Georgia state representative, the author of several books and currently heads the polling and political information firm InsiderAdvantage.

"InsiderAdvantage/Majority Opinion Survey: Obama Holds Lead Over Clinton in North Carolina
Compiled from InsiderAdvantage and Southern Political Report staff"

snip...

http://www.internetnewsagency.com/





GOOGLE is your friend.

[PBS Poll-435]

30. Scott Rasmussen, Republican Pollster = Facts? OMFG I think I tore a muscle!

:rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:v

[Blue_Roses]

33. Scott's polls come dead on most of the time.

and I don't believe he cozied up to Newt.:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: See, I can do it too ...grow the fuck up ...

[PBS Poll-435]

34. Um.... Check HIS SCOREBOARD this year...

:rofl:

[Blue_Roses]

39. I have and many others. ..

they all get it wrong 'cause no one pollster can READ a voter's fucking mind. You're an idiot if you think this poll is correct. You're from Dallas right? Then you should know how big the lies are here.
How old are you 'cause I think it's past your bedtime?

[PBS Poll-435]

44. The science of polling is to determine what a large population will do

with a very small representative data sample.

Most polls are within the MOE.

I look forward to NC & IN.

And... to my - bedtime!

:rofl:

[Blue_Roses]

47. well, we'll just have to wait and see...and oh, by the way,

are you going inject your little friend rolling around, giggling like that on Tuesday when Hillary gets smacked down?

edited to add: that was mean to say. I'm 100% sincere. Really.

[PBS Poll-435]

48. We will have to see.

Good luck in Indiana!


:rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:

[Blue_Roses]

50. oh, and best of luck to you

in NC:bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: I like him better. He has more energy than just rolling around collecting lint.

[kmsarvis]

38. I've already tried to get prodn2000 to stop overusing that smilie...

but I think I only made it worse.

[Blue_Roses]

42. he's immature and lacks conversational skills

:evilgrin:

[PBS Poll-435]

45. It is difficult to converse with some people.

At least you have what appears to be a sense of humor!

[gravity]

18. Don't get your hopes up

Obama will win the nomination even if he loses NC.

The media has a short attention span and this Wright issue will pass. He has suffered damage but it ain't the end of the world.

[Yossariant]

61. Wrong. Dead wrong. If he loses NC, he's got nowhere to go because she wins the rest and he ends

his campaign with Reverend Wright.

[casus belli]

65. Sorry, but you clearly have a problem with math.

70/30 in the remaining states and 60/40 SD's to Hillary still won't deliver a win.

[mcctatas]

20. I get it now...

find one poll that is favorable and hold onto it for dear life! Well then I agree, she's so gonna win (of course that would mean that all of these other polls are wrong)

Polling Data
Poll Date Sample Obama Clinton Spread
RCP Average 04/26 - 04/29 -- 48.3 41.0 Obama +7.3
Insider Advantage 04/29 - 04/29 571 LV 42 44 Clinton +2.0
SurveyUSA 04/26 - 04/28 727 LV 49 44 Obama +5.0
Rasmussen 04/28 - 04/28 774 LV 51 37 Obama +14.0
PPP (D) 04/26 - 04/27 1121 LV 51 39 Obama +12.0
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2008/president/nc/north_carolina_democratic_primary-275.html

[PBS Poll-435]

25. Well...Most can see a trend before it is biting them in the ass.

[Tropics_Dude83]

6. Illinois governor sounds awesome

and maybe a run for the presidency as Governor Obama in 8 years.

[quantass]

14. I remember when you use to be open-minded and cared about America :-(

Now i get the impression you've lost hope and just settling for old politics because America can never see real change.
I miss the old you.

[Tropics_Dude83]

27. I have lost hope

I don't want to be supporting Hillary for stupid reasons like what some whacko minister said. Obama doesn't share those views. We all know that. It's what the media has done to him and made him appear to be. I support Hillary for one reason and one reason alone. Electability. I can never be passionate about her. My heart is still with Barack. It's like, whenever we're on the cusp of real change, we lose it.

At least Hillary can win and lead us in a different direction than Mccain I guess

Whatever. The media will get its way I guess. HRC knows how to take them on at least. Another reason to support her.

I know. You all are probably reading this thinking it's contradictory. It is. I'm frusturated with the media, angry with Barack for not recognizing the Wright problem, sad to see his star diminished, and my head looks at Hillary's strength with whites, with catholics, with jews, and sees her as the one that can beat Mccain where Obama can't.

[kmsarvis]

43. Pay close attention to ........

who in the media is suggesting Obama is unelectable......you will find that it is usually only right wing pundits or Clinton supporters.

[Lady-Damai]

57. So, HRC main support is Whites, Catholics, Jews and no blacks......interesting. n/t

[salbi]

73. I am also sad.....for you

From reading your post, you say you can never be passionate about Hillary, that your heart is still with Barack, but that you have switched your loyalty because MSM thinks he won't win....How very sad. I will continue to support the one that my heart tells me is better candidate, Barack! I refuse to let the media tell me who I should vote for.

[Nedsdag]

79. Name ONE southern state Hillary win.

Arkansas? I don't think so.

Florida? Sorry. McCain wins there too.

You can also forget about the Mountain West as well.

Say hello to President McCain.

[WilliamPitt]

8. I sense your concern.

[NanceGreggs]

22. I, too, sense the concern ...

... I am just concerned about my sense that his concern makes no sense.

[RiverStone]

9. What's sad are the few - the very few - who are writing him off so quickly!

What I saw was a man willing to own his emotions, willing to accept responsibility and shift course (on Wright), and willing to focus on issues that people truly care about. One wacko preacher will not bring down the candidacy of a person so special - we only see the likes of them once in a generation.

Nobody can unify our country and our country with the rest of the world like Obama.

Sorry your sad - I'm pretty damn happy myself! :hi:

[PBS Poll-435]

13. Obama defended him as his CRAZY UNCLE in his MAJOR SPEECH 1 month ago..

What changed?

Political Convenience?

[RiverStone]

23. Some politicians are not so arrogant

...that they can't change and own a mistake.

Why so cynical?

I'd think you'd admire someone willing to be vulnerable, rather then steadfastly never admitting any mistakes.

[PBS Poll-435]

29. I am not cynical at all.

I am living in the real world, and the fact that Obama has done 1 1/2 360s in the last month over this issue should really bring concern.

[RiverStone]

35. And Hillary has not done backflips on the Bosnian tarmack?

Slept with the enemy in Kyle/Lieberman?

Forgot what she said about NAFTA?

And of course, never said the IWR vote was a HUGE fuck up???

But prodn2000, what good does it do to bash either candidate with the same tired ol rhetoric?

We've heard it all before.

Lets just say I don;t get what you see in Hillary and maybe you don't get what I see in Obama.

But at least we both can't stand Shrub eh?!!!

[PBS Poll-435]

37. Shrub = Bad

It will NEVER happen again.

:)

[Blue_Roses]

11. God, man...you're sick...

[smalll]

19. I don't see why he still can't be VP. Hillary/Obama '08.

He'll make a fine President after eight years of working up close with Hillary in the Oval Office.

[PBS Poll-435]

28. His "supporters" would vote against such a ticket.

To preserve his electoral "hymen" and all...

[smalll]

31. You might be right they would refuse it: they seem bent on forcing their bright young god -

to a Gotterdammerung in November - at the top of the ticket. :shrug:

[Lady-Damai]

56. Hehehehe......I DOUBT Obama would pick that venomous jellyfish!

OBAMA/EDWARDS ALL THE WAY!!!!!




I really like John Edwards. If Obama had never joined the race. Edwards would be my pick.

[gcomeau]

21. Spare us the fake "mourning"

... for the imaginary fall of the party's brightest shining light while you support the candidate whose entire campaign has been devoted to making it happen. Despite her best efforts, it hasn't happened... but if it had this post would be like someone declaring how broken up they were about the civilian casualties in Iraq while throwing their full backing behind the people who made that happ^^^... oh, wait, maybe I should pick a "this would be like" example that you're not actively involved in actually doing.

So declare 100% sincerity all you like, your actions give the lie to your words. See you at President Obama's inaugaration.

[2rth2pwr]

32. It is unfortunate, but the bright side is that now he can really show the country

that he is able to bring people together while he serves out his term in the Senate. Maybe he could also work on transcending racial and partisan divides.

Good luck to him.

[PBS Poll-435]

36. I will ask my Senators to support him for Majority Leader

Or Majority Whip... Either way... Victory!

[TexasLady]

40. Happy

Because this man is going to be around for a looong looong time. He is both Inspiring and wonderful.
:hi:

[Frank Booth]

41. Tropics_Dude, how long before your soul-searching, gut-wrenching switch to McCain?

I figure you're due to come to the realization that he's the only one who can win in November.

Or will it be Gore to the rescue first, and then McCain? Then back to Obama again?

I think you've switched your support only 3x so far. You gotta pick up the pace.

[Tropics_Dude83]

46. Never Mccain-this is all about stopping him n/t

[anonymous171]

49. Everytime I get pissed at Hillary and am just about to foreswear voting for her if she wins the nom

I just remind myself, "It's her or Bush's third term."

Oh, and it would be so hilarious to see the conservatives go batshit insane after their worst enemy, Hillary Clinton, is handed all the executive power and privilege they gave to Bush. Sweet,sweet revenge.

[Eric Condon]

52. Stopping him by saying he's better than Obama? Because that's what Zellary did. nt

[anonymous171]

53. I can't wait until she starts challenging Obama to duels

[Eric Condon]

55. Like this?

http://zellchallenges.ytmnd.com

Wait till the end - the payoff is SO worth it.

[eridani]

58. So, how does someone who lies about being under sniper fire beat an ex-POW? n/t

[kwenu]

51. Obama has truly earned his spot as the nominee. Thanks.

[Milo_Bloom]

54. Clinton has no path to the nomination.

[cali]

59. Obama is still the likely nominee, no matter how hard you wish that

not to be true. He hasn't fallen over Wright. And furthermore, Hillary, the loser, will be the one who emerges from this tattered, tarnished and done for any future national run. Even in NY her popularity is dropping. She may emerge from this race covered with so much stink, that her chances there are damaged.

So cheer up, Obama will likely be the dem nominee, and he'll have demonstrated that he can deal with potentially crippling attacks. That bodes well for the general.

I'm sure you're sincere, so I know you'll be excited about Obama as the nominee after hillary packs it in. I hope she'll become a better Senator and won't vote for such things as war and K/L in the future. She'll no longer have to prove how tough she is. Maybe she'll learn that strong and tough aren't synonymous.

[akbacchus_BC]

60. Wait a second, just because you changed your allegiance, it

does not mean that Senator Obama will not be the nominee. Get a grip. I like to say something to you but I pledged that I will not say anything against a Hillary supporter. Let me rub this in your face, your candidate is not going to be the nominee, be prepared to jump ship again. Am so frigging tired of all the negativity you all throw against a Democratic candidate. You should be ashamed of yourself! Both of them are Dems, why this divisiveness?

[Orsino]

63. Why this divisiveness?

Why indeed? Why do we feel the need to rub anything in anyone's face here?

So much hate. :-(

[casus belli]

64. If he had just waited??

Oh I see, if he had not tried to jump places in line, Hillary wouldn't have had to trash him by surrogate. Yeah. That'll teach him to mess with the "inevitable" candidate. It's his fault all this went down because he didn't wait his turn.

Gotcha.

[reflection]

67. I don't get this "waited" stuff either. n/t

[grace0418]

70. I'd put you on ignore if your posts weren't so damn humorous.

LOL!

[jeffrey_X]

71. So you are buying the bull shit too? Fuck I hate our system and our media

what a disgrace that people have actually boughten into this fucking spin.

[newmajority]

72. Best Hillbot concern troll post ever!

If I hadn't read all your other threads, you might have convinced me.

[dionysus]

74. this post is sad. you're an idiot...

[Stuckinthebush]

76. Yes...Idiot is a good label

Idiotic post of the day.

"tsk tsk...poor sad Obama"

Jesus, some Hillary supporters are either clueless or delusional.

[DemGa]

75. Obama could've perhaps saved his credibility

by distancing himself from Wright several years in advance of a run for President - as it stands, it just looks like political expediency.

Too bad; Obama will go down in history as a joke. If he can keep his Senate seat, Obama can always go sulk with Ted Kennedy.

[Dawgs]

77. Huh? Obama is gaining on Hillary in the only points that matter, delegates, and you think it's over?

WTF, Obama has one or two bad weeks and you give up on him.

How come we haven't seen posts like this from you in all of the states that Hillary has lost her leads; which is like almost all of them?

[Nedsdag]

78. It's people like you Tropic_Dude83,

That will keep me in the Obama camp even if for some horrible reason he is denied the nomination. If your candidate, whose name I refuse to mention, gets the nomination, not only will I campaign against her, but I will try to convince my friends to either leave the ballot blank or vote for Cynthia McKinney.

This whole "It's My Turn" spiel has hurt the Democratic Party. Tropics_Dude83, had you been around in 1960, you would've been a supporter of either Hubert Humphrey, Lyndon B. Johnson, or Adlai Stevenson and told John F. Kennedy to wait his turn. Is that you? Be honest!

This is a free country and Barack Obama is of age and a U.S. born citizen. For you and your candidate's suporters to deny this man the nomination shows a lack of class and graciousness because of your zeal to win. It will cost you in the end, mark my word.

[TragedyandHope]

80. Wipe your tears away

Obama will be in the White House next year!