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Triana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 07:29 AM
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SD Switch from Clinton to Obama! - Joe Andrew Former DNC Chairman
Superdelegate switch from Clinton-to-Obama

Joe Andrew, FMR DNC Chairman

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080501/ap_on_el_pr/superdelegates
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scheming daemons Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 07:31 AM
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1. This is very big.... much bigger than the +2 in SDs for Obama....

This is a "rat jumping off the ship".


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tekisui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 07:32 AM
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4. A leading rat. One of the first to endorse Hillary.
A big one to switch.
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tekisui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 07:31 AM
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2. It was reportedly not lobbied for by Obama, as well.
I will KNR every thread about this Big Switch.

I am looking for more to follow.
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Triana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 07:36 AM
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7. It's very telling....in a good way.
Any switches from Obama to Clinton yet?
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tekisui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 07:39 AM
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9. None in the past month or so.
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baldguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 07:31 AM
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3. How many is that in the last week?
10? 12?

For every one Obama gets, Clinton needs four.
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tekisui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 07:34 AM
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6. 11 for Obama since PA, net of 5 for Hillary since PA. (6 minus 1).
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K Gardner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 07:32 AM
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5. Great way to start the day :-)
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lisa58 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 07:39 AM
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8. Couldn't have happened in a better state at a better time...
...keep 'em comin'
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WeDidIt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 07:44 AM
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10. Super Delegate Gap NOW 17!!
Clinton 260
Obama 243

GOBAMA!!!!
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 07:45 AM
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11. This is the nightmare the Clintons were worried about
2-3 more of these and they are finished.


This is why Cariville attacked Richardson so viciously.
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Scurrilous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 07:47 AM
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12. K & R
:thumbsup:
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jasmine621 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 07:52 AM
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13. Hillary is being undermined by her own party. Trying to stop her
before the primary is over. Still SDs can switch back at any time. We are taking names and watching who is trying to hand the nomination to Obama on a silver platter. There are just as many of us out here are there are Obama supporters who will be very angry if the nomination is given to Obama without giving a fair chance to Hillary to finish the race.
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Avalux Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 07:54 AM
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14. The Clintons have shown no loyalty to the Democratic Party -
how can they expect it in return? It's always been about them. Where were they when other Dems needed them? Where were they when Gore and Kerry ran? The Clintons might have assumed all these years that the mantle of the Democratic Party was theirs but they haven't stepped up and led the way they should have once Bill left office.

This is the consequence.
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jhain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 07:58 AM
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15. Perfect analysis
thank you.
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Avalux Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 08:09 AM
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21. You're welcome!
:hi:
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WeDidIt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 08:00 AM
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16. Can Hillary take 75% of all remaining votes?
That's what it wold take for her to win, you know.
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AllentownJake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 08:03 AM
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19. Let me know how that works out for you
Seeing he is a party official and not an elected office holder. She loses the nomination her days as a party big wig are over.
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 08:04 AM
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20. Why not ask why someone who endorsed HIllary on the day she
formally announced, feels compelled to switch? He made clear that he wasn't lobbied at all by the Obama campaign. Why did he switch? What do you think was his motivation? Why would he want to hand Obama the nomination on a "silver platter"? How is switching not giving her a fair chance? As you say, SDs can switch at any time. If an Obama SD switched to Hillay, would you think it was unfair and an orchestrated attemp to deny her the nomination?

And your impotent, angry threat about taking names, is just silly. What on earth do you think you and your cohorts could do to Joe Andrew?

Maybe you should grow up about all this.
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Starbucks Anarchist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 08:44 AM
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23. How can it be "given" to Obama?
He's ahead in almost every possible way.
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ClassWarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 08:51 AM
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25. No, Obama's just "closing the deal."
:rofl:

NGU.


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Triana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 09:16 AM
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27. What do you mean? The Republicans have been very supportive of Hillary n/t
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Spazito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 09:20 AM
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29. Hillary wanted to end the race Super Tuesday, doesn't that
bother you??? She AND her supporters would have been very happy had that happened and both you and I know that.

It is blatant hypocrisy, imo, to even ask the question you did:

"are there are Obama supporters who will be very angry if the nomination is given to Obama without giving a fair chance to Hillary to finish the race."

and you know it.
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ClassWarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 11:24 AM
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31. No answer of course.
Isn't cognitive dissonance a wonderful thing?

NGU.


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Spazito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 12:14 PM
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33. There never is any response to the issue raised in my post....
showing a prime example of "situational ethics", they know it, can't defend it so they try to ignore it hoping it will go away, it won't.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 12:17 PM
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34. Clintons have undermined and sabotaged every other Dem leader who opposed BushInc for two decades.
You are CLUELESS to those you show loyalty - unless, of course, you are a closed government Democrat who sides with secrecy and privilege of the powerful elite - and in that case, you know exactly why you side with Clintons.
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Pavlovs DiOgie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 08:01 AM
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17. Awesome!
Things continue to roll in for Obama, despite the Wright mess. The only people who think it's an issue are in the media because they get bored talking about the actual issues. The rest of the country sees it as a stupid distraction. In the end it's not going to have hurt Obama much, if at all.
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powergirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 08:02 AM
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18. Let me know when a Superdelegate switches from Obama to Clintn
And I will wait right here. :popcorn:
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Bigleaf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 08:27 AM
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22. More Great News! K&R
:toast:
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Hope And Change Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 08:46 AM
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24. K & R!
:kick:
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TragedyandHope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 09:10 AM
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26. There's no stopping us now!
:kick:

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knixphan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 09:19 AM
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28. GO JOE!
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Life Long Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 11:07 AM
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30. This must be going over good with the Clinton's.
Probably like Richardson's departure from the Clinton's. Hey but don't forget, it is looking better for Clinton today than it did a week ago! :silly:
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libnnc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 11:28 AM
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32. I wonder if Bill will call and cuss him out in the middle of the night?
That's his thing, right?

Kick

:kick:
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