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IndianaJones Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 08:07 AM
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Tom Joyner getting on board for unity ticket?
Tom put the idea out there today. He said he must weigh his desire to see Republicans out of the White House against his desire to see the first black President. He said a ticket of Clinton/Obama could ensure 16 years of Democratic control of the White House.

He polled his viewers and the results were 54% would vote for such a ticket, over 20% would not, and another 24% were angry he even brought it up.
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 08:09 AM
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1. Cue The Music
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 08:39 AM
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2. More Music
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democrattotheend Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 08:42 AM
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3. Maybe. Let's see how the rest of the primaries go.
But I am starting to think a Clinton/Obama ticket is a good idea, but only if she agrees to give him a substantial role in the administration and not to run again in 4 years if they lose. Given the fact that he has more delegates, I think those demands are more than reasonable.
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JackORoses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 10:32 AM
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11. think again. seriously.
Hillary gets no reward fro her horrendous behavior.
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 10:48 AM
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30. Obama Will Get The Nomination
But if he is unable to mend the breach in the party they will be drinking belladonna in Denver and not champagne...
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JackORoses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 12:44 PM
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38. it will be up to us to mend that breach
folks like me and you.

shall we?

;)

I'm sorry I ragged on the Heat,
I must admit that the Mavericks are no daisies, either.
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rodbailey Donating Member (249 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 08:43 AM
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4. A Gore/Obama ticket
would get even more support and could win in November. I'm not sure with Clinton anywhere on the ticket we can win. To see what you can do to let super delegates know we want Gore at the top of the ticket go to www.thealgoresolution.com. Brand new web site encouraging just this idea.
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my2cent Donating Member (90 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 08:47 AM
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5. I want a unity ticket too
Hell no, no gore.:smoke:
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IndianaJones Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 08:47 AM
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6. heh. nt.
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 08:49 AM
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7. "I'm not sure with Clinton anywhere on the ticket we can win"
Edited on Thu May-01-08 08:49 AM by DemocratSinceBirth
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susankh4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 08:53 AM
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9. Good try... but it is Obama that McCain is taking out in head to heads.
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 10:35 AM
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14. I Should Have Used The Sarcasm Icon
I hope you opened the link...

I thought among such an intelligent group the ability to detect sarcasm would come naturally...

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IndianaJones Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 10:38 AM
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17. I got it...never use the sarcasm thingie. nt.
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susankh4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 10:40 AM
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21. Yes. I opened the link.
But, ya know... I am so accustomed to unreasonable arguments by Obama supporters that I just wrote you off as another...

Anymore, what seems to be sarcasm is often not.

Sorry.
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susankh4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 08:51 AM
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8. Hot damn!
People are waking up.... FINALLY!

Sixteen years of Dem control!! Woohoo! It's FDR all over again.

I am pulling out my Clinton/Obama buttons again.....

:toast:
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IndianaJones Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 10:05 AM
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10. don't know if I'm sold on it yet. would be hard to vote for a ticket with Obama on it. nt.
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Lucky 13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 10:34 AM
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12. FOR THE MILLIONTH TIME: NEVER.
Never in a million years. Never will Barack, who is WINNING, take the VP role. If she wants to beg for the VP slot, be my guest, but the answer to that will still be "NO" too.

Hillary supporters are DESPERATE. Stop trying to ride the coat tails of our WINNING candidate - we don't want her.
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IndianaJones Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 10:35 AM
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13. Tom Joyner is a Hillary supporter now? Typical white Obamaton. nt.
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ellacott Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 10:38 AM
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18. It says nothing about him being a Hillary supporter
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IndianaJones Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 10:40 AM
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20. what? nt.
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ellacott Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 10:44 AM
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24. I was repsonding to your question.
It doesn't say that he is now a supporter of Hillary.
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IndianaJones Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 10:45 AM
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28. I was responding to poster that said Clinton supporters are desperate.
Joyner is a solid Obama supporter. Has been for some time.
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Solomon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 10:54 AM
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33. If he was a "solid" Obama supporter, he wouldn't be dribbling
such nonsense. Totally ridiculous. I won't even go for Obama/Clinton. I'm sure that Obama will be able to find the right person to balance the ticket. He doesn't need Hillary.
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Lucky 13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 12:11 PM
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35. I wasn't talking about Joyner. I was talking about Hillary supporters.
Everyday there is a new post on DU desperately trying to get a Clinton/Obama ticket and EVERYDAY we respond with "NO FUCKING WAY". I'm not sure how many different ways it can be said before you guys get the picture.

It doesn't matter how many times you post it or who, from EITHER side, says it's a good idea. It ISN'T a good idea. Why? Because Hillary has compromised her integrity and any sense of decency during the course of the campaign. She would be Obama's cement shoes.

We don't need her. We don't want her. She needs to slither back under her rock.

Also, it's RIDICULOUS to keep suggesting the LOSING candidate should be the Nominee and the WINNING candidate should be the Veep. ARROGANT AND STUPID AND AGAINST ALL REASONABLE LOGIC. Oh... and INSULTING.

If you want someone to agree with you on this, I suggest trying Hillaryis44.com.
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Texas Hill Country Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 10:36 AM
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15. he said it because it makes a ton of sense and long term is best for the party
Edited on Thu May-01-08 10:36 AM by Texas Hill Country
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IndianaJones Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 10:37 AM
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16. I'm not sold on it, but I like Tom...despite his support for Obama. nt.
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Texas Hill Country Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 10:44 AM
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26. it would be essentially a lock for 16 years... it is a VERY smart move.
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grrr050 Donating Member (86 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 10:40 AM
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19. He just proved to be so..............
SMART!

I agree with him. If it's Obama/Clinton, then so be it, if its Clinton Obama the better for me.
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IndianaJones Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 10:41 AM
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23. He was saying Clinton/Obama. nt.
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grrr050 Donating Member (86 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 10:48 AM
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31. I know but..................
Obama supporters will have a very big problem with that, I applaud Tom for recognizing maybe that Hill is more of the technocrat policy wonk, more experienced to run this country. I'm pretty sure Obama will get there in four to eigth years. For me. who's on top is not relevant at this point. No repugs in the whitehouse for the next 16 years.
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Tarheel_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 12:19 PM
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37. This was not Tom's idea, and if the op weren't a disingenuous asshole
Edited on Thu May-01-08 12:22 PM by Tarheel_Dem
he would have explained that this idea was floated by Tom's CEO (Clinton supporter). And I agree with those who say Tom should have kept it to himself.

Screw the party, if Obama arrives at the convention with more PD's, pop. vote, and running even in SD's, there will be no unity ticket. Obama doesn't need Hillary, but she would definitely need him, and I hope he's a lot smarter than that.
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jasmine621 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 10:41 AM
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22. Obama has done more to divide blacks than to unite whites. nt
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IndianaJones Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 10:44 AM
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25. I don't think thats the case. nt.
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ellacott Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 10:44 AM
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27. That's going too far
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 10:46 AM
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29. "He said a ticket of Clinton/Obama" Crazy old Tom. n/t
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ellacott Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 10:50 AM
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32. He doesn't endorse this idea
He was just repeating what he heard.
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TheDoorbellRang Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 10:55 AM
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34. Such chutzpah! A Clinton/Obama ticket
It's stunning, really. Why in HELL would the frontrunner take second place on such a ticket.

And why in HELL would Obama even consider her for a place on the ticket. Back in January I wouldn't have minded her in second place, but now? He doesn't need her there undermining anything he tries to get done. She's nothing more than a shitstirrer.
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Writer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 12:13 PM
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36. Yay, Tom.
Yippee!
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