It's over. Hillary is the nominee.

[hill_win_2008]

It's been proven that Obama is unelectable in the GE. Hillary has the same "baggage" for the last 20 years and will get no traction.

She has won the majority of the big states in this primary, while Obama hasn't posted a win in a couple months.

Now, are you Obama supporters going to vote Hillary?

Sarcasm note: I know the primary is not over (that's my point really), but still answer the last question: if Hillary gets the nomination, will you Obama supporters support her?

[gaiilonfong]

1. NOOOOOO I dont vote for NEO CONS

NO SALE

[Mezzo]

71. She shares a 95% voting record with Barack Obama, is he a neo con too?

you can't have it both ways.

[gaiilonfong]

81. lyric mezzo was a category

made up so Marilyn Horn a lyric soprano with no top could have a career..... so......

NO SALE!


Obama didn't call for the obliteration of Iran as a real NEOCON would that was Hillary!

[MonkeyFunk]

90. She didn't "call for" the obliteration of Iran

But if you guys couldn't lie, you wouldn't have anything to say at all.

[gaiilonfong]

94. pomm neei wheei

[JustABozoOnThisBus]

99. Yep, they're pretty much Tweedledum & dee

not much difference. I'll support the winner.

At this point I hope it's Obama, but not by much.

They're both better than McCain. I guess that's my rousing endorsement.

Neither will push for real universal health care. Either would do a half-assed attempt to get out of Iraq.

:hi:

[harun]

83. I can't vote for a neo-con either, no HRC (n/t)

[JoFerret]

123. You don't know what a neo-con is

To you it's just a name to shriek when confronted with what to you is an unpleasant reality.

[harun]

128. I would be happy to go point by point through neo-conservative

ideology and show how HRC is in alignment with them on the majority of the issues.

You can start here:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neoconservative#Distinctions_from_other_conservatives

[roguevalley]

86. just because we know most of her evil shit doesn't mean she gets

a pass. god. all. mighty. She won't win. I cannot articulate the hatred, yes, hatred most people I associate with, work with and know feel for her and bill. It will never happen. she can't beat Obama.

[spanone]

2. i'll turn the question around and ask you the same question.

[hill_win_2008]

17. Yes

Message:
If Obama is the nominee, I stand behind him and will vote for him.

By the way, thanks for not answering my question, I'm not surprised in any way.

[Occam Bandage]

3. My condolances on your username.

[grantcart]

thats all right he switches every 4 days after pizza

[cliffordu]

37. Man, I likes the Pizza....

:rofl:

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

11. Maybe they'll let him change it...

when he switches his support to Obama.

[rodeodance]

20. your avatar fits you--a Kook-Aid drinker.

[cliffordu]

Weren't you just sniveling at me yesterday for disruptive negative

posts??

:hi:

[rodeodance]

44. I was mocking the posters comments about the OP usename. Get a grip.

[Occam Bandage]

54. Except, you know, mine is ironic self-depracation, so your "mockery" was pathetic. I mean,

it's about as witty as walking up to a guy in a T-shirt that says "Nerd" on it, and calling him "Nerd."

[Joe the Revelator]

45. Rodeoclown would be a great hypocrite...

if she had enough brain cells to pull it off.

[Occam Bandage]

43. ...

[CoffeeCat]

69. That's original...

...or at least it was about 5 years ago.

[AZBlue]

98. It's ok - this reincarnation won't last long on DU either.

[leftofcool]

4. This HIllary supporter will support Obama if he is the nominee

This bullshit of saying "it's all over" is ridiculous

[hill_win_2008]

22. Agreed n/t

[Joe the Revelator]

5. Not a chance will I vote for her. There was a time I would, but that was before she ...

ran a campaign based on fear and mud slinging. If that is the type of politics we're looking for, we might as well appoint Bush supreme dictator for life, because it won't be any change from the last, long, eight years.

[Freedom Train]

79. Hah! No difference from Bush??

The last guy who said that became universally hated among Democrats. Also, he was dead wrong.

[newmajority]

6. De-Nile. The river that flows through Egypt. And also Hillbot imagination land

[LakeSamish706]

7. Simple answer here is NO as well. n/t

[wowimthere]

8. Delusions of grandeur may serve only you well

[Barack_America]

9. It's true.

At this point I am ready to concede that she will be the nominee of the DLC.

Obama will have to settle for just the DNC nomination now.

:cry:

[dkf]

10. Delusional.

I will not vote for her as long as she is espousing her crazy middle east umbrella policy.

I do not vote for people who I think are likely to get us into stupid wars. That is simply unacceptable.

[Creideiki]

40. Like invading Pakistan would be stupid?

Both are saying essentially that American policy in the Middle East will roll back to the pre-moron years. Too bad you're a one-issue voter, though.

[SeaLyons]

12. if table is turned, of course I will vote for Obama...

who the hell on this board is going to vote for McSame??

[LakeSamish706]

18. Nobody said they would vote for McCain, just that they would not vote for Hillary....

If she manages to steal the nomination, she is going to have plenty of difficulty.

[SeaLyons]

63. Obviously, you don't get it....

nevermind

[Webster Green]

13. You counting Michigan?

:rofl:

[DJ13]

14. lol

:rofl:

[MeDeMax]

15. if Obama gets the nomination, will you support (not just vote for) him ? -- n/t

[rodeodance]

16. REC

[boobooday]

19. There is this threatening tone about your message . . .

What's that about? How has it been "proven" that Obama is unelectable? All that's been proven is that a Dem is willing to use the same tactics as the GOP when it comes to fighting dirty.

And not all of Hillary's "baggage" is 20 years old. Some of it is mighty fresh. For example, see the robo-calls from "women's voices, women's votes" that have been aimed at depressing African-American turnout in North Carolina and elsewhere. Disgusting.

Are we supposed to bend over again after she wins by treachery?

The more I see of this crap, the more sick it will make me to vote for her, if it came to that, which I hope it won't.

[mikelgb]

21. what an enduring username

[Edgewater_Joe]

23. She's Already Lost Six Superdelegates THIS MORNING, HillBot

+5 and a defection = face up to reality and stop pining for a McSameAsBush, Hillbot.

Today's Reminder: HILLARY. HAS. LOST. It's time to either get behind Obama or just start donating to McSameAsBush, because, AGAIN, the only way -- the ONLY way -- Hillary gets the nomination is if she STEALS it.

And this morning even that faint hope gets snuffed more and more.

[cali]

24. ....

[ProSense]

25. Hillary has won 3 states to Obama's 11 since Feb. 9

February 9

Obama wins Louisiana and Nebraska


February 10

Obama wins Maine


February 12

Obama wins District of Columbia, Maryland and Virginia


February 19

Obama wins Hawaii


March 4

Hillary wins Ohio and Rhode Island

Obama wins Texas and Vermont


March 8

Obama wins Wyoming


March 11

Obama wins Mississippi


April 22

Hillary wins PA

[rocktivity]

26. Winning the "big states" didn't help Dems in 2004 or 2004

Trying to win all fifty states got Dems into Congress in 2006.

:headbang:
rocknation

[NightWatcher]

27. Proud2B, is that you? "big states" I thought this was the United States

[baldguy]

28. Is May 1 Backwards Day now?

[newmajority]

34. The Hillbots are so stuck on denial that they want a replay of April

So this is April Fools day all over again, for them.

[bowens43]

29. ROFLMAO!

Obama is WINNING across the board. Hillary continues to lose ground. Obama will be the nominee.

As for hillary, if she is able to steal the nomination , she will have to prove to me that she is a better choice then McCain (I won't vote for MCCain but I may not cast a vote for president) , so far, she hasn't done that.

[katmondoo]

30. Yes the alternative is too scary

4 years with another Bush administration will be the end of America as we once knew it.

[hill_win_2008]

35. Thanks

All I wanted was an answer. I knew I wouldn't get it out of most. So thanks.

[SoonerPride]

31. plonk.

no time for morons

[ronnykmarshall]

32. This thread should create a thunderous screech.

Oh, I see it has.

[PBS Poll-435]

33. The writing is on the wall, I believe.

After NC & IN, it is going to get very interesting...

[RiverStone]

36. Oh yea, it's over alright

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x5766515

:hi:

[GCP]

38. How interesting that the Obamaphiles won't support Hillary

But vice versa isn't the case.

If you all prefer President McCain over President Clinton, you're no better than Ralph Nader and his ilk. :grr:

[DS1]

55. There's shits like that on both sides

[hill_win_2008]

56. Not shocked

That's all I wanted to see. Only one person said that they would vote for Hillary if she gets the nod.

A good many said no way.

The majority simple said that I was delusional / crazy / etc.

On the other hand, when this topic is reversed, the vast majority of Hillary supporters (myself included) state that they will indeed support Obama. We might say things like "It's not over" or "Let the voting continue", but we usually say that we will support the Democratic candidate.

Maybe if Hillary gets the nod, the Obama supporters can get Rev. Wright to run a third party.

[eridani]

117. Clinton is actively shilling for McCain

She said that McCain is better than Obama for having more experience. What does that make her with respect to McCain?

[NoodleyAppendage]

39. The only way I would EVER vote for Hillary would be if someone dragged by corpse to the polls. n/t

j

[nichomachus]

41. My support for her is eroding with every page she tears from Rove's book

[k8conant]

42. Folks are looking at the WRONG swing states for the GE...

50 state strategy works:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/politics/interactives/campaign08/electoral-college/?dList=ia,nv,ca,co,ct,de,il,nj,ny,ore,pa,ri,mi,wa,me1,me2,me0,md,wi,hi,ma,mn,vt,ne0,ne1,ne2,nm,dc&rList=sc,al,ak,wy,ga,nc,ok,tn,ut,la,az,ms,ne3,ky,id,sd,ks&uList=nh,fl,ar,mo,va,nd,oh,tx,ind,wv,mt

[NJSecularist]

48. 50 state strategy?

So we will win Idaho with Obama as our nominee? Or Texas? :crazy:

[Texas Hill Country]

46. yes.

[yodermon]

47. I'm an Obama supporter and I will vote for Hillary should she

manage to pull off a coup, even though a lot of rank & file Democrats, especially newly registered younger voters, would stay home in November.

[HughBeaumont]

49. Your car is running in place.

[Life Long Dem]

50. What Obama needs 134. What Clinton needs 285.

Out of 45 States, with only 7 states left.

[PVnRT]

51. More Clinton supporters refuse to vote for Obama

than vice versa. Nice try.

[hill_win_2008]

58. Wrong!

I think you are on the wrong blog site or something.

This is DU...also known as Obama territory.

[PVnRT]

67. Check the exit polls from Pennsylvania again

Not that I expect facts to have any effect on you.

[izzybeans]

52. .

:rofl:

[rg302200]

53. I might have voted for her at one time

But I will not vote for her in the GE with that said every time she says something negative she lose's more support among the Democrats I know here in Ohio. They are starting to compare her to the pigs in animal farm....you can't tell the difference between her or McCain so why vote?

[meow mix]

57. its over, you made it on my ignore list

congrats

[YOY]

59. How?

n.t.

[Nedsdag]

60. I saw a sign in my town that stated the following:

OBAMA = PEACE
OTHERS = WAR

That settles it for me. If you want to vote for continuing war, then a vote for Hillary is a vote for McCain.

Deal with it.

[hill_win_2008]

Try reading what I wrote

How is a vote for Hillary in a Hillary v. McCain contest a vote of McCain?

[Nedsdag]

80. Both support the war.

Both support bombing Iran.

Need I say anymore?

[Rob Gregory Browne]

61. I can happily say that I won't have to, but

if the sky should fall and logic and the numbers are turned on their heads and Hillary somehow manages to snake this thing, then I will hold my nose and vote for her. Anything is better than McCain.

[billyoc]

62. No more DLC, ever.

I'm already campaigning against Clinton in the '12 Senate race.

[mckeown1128]

64. what is the population cut off for "big states"...

ohh that's right... it is just your opinion.



I will support Hillary... but it depends on HOW she gets the nom. If she gets the nom by getting FL and MI seated in anyway other than a 50/50 split, then I will support her. If they are seated how they are and it makes the difference I will vote Nader.


FL and MI deserve fair and open elections(aka informed voters...informed as to whether or not there are any delegates at stake)

[KaryninMiami]

65. Over McShame- absolutely. Will I work for her or contribute money?

Probably- most probably- not.

But - regardless of the anger and total disappointment I feel towards the Clintons now, and in spite of how disgusting they have run their campaign and regardless of how much damage they have done to our party by trying to destroy Obama - she, and the team she will surround herself with will be far better then anyone or anything McSame will come up with.

And to those of you thinking of not voting if your candidate does not win-- or= worse yet- anyone thinking of voting for McCain -- think of these two words-- SUPREME COURT. Remember? The team that illegally handed the crown to King George in 2000? Same team that just voted to allow states to demand photo identification for voters (=Poll tax)- the ones who don't give a shit about our constitution (not all but most)? Think right to choose, think habeas corpus, think CONSTITUTION-- and at least 2 seats- maybe 3 will be up in the next term. Think people-- remember what's at risk here-- your rights- my rights- OUR RIGHTS as citizens.

[Jed Dilligan]

66. I'll stop being interested in politics if she's the nominee.

I intend to vote for her, but it's possible election day will pass by without my noticing.

[Stop Cornyn]

68. So is Hillary the official nominee to the second-place-finisher hall of fame?

[demwing]

70. No. I can't.

After the way Mrs. Clinton has conducted her campaign, I don't trust her to carry out any of her promises. Her entire first four years will be a bridge to getting elected again in 2012, and her remaining four years will be a bridge to her "legacy."

I don't believe she has our backs, or our interests, at heart. I don't believe she has her party, or her country, at heart. Based on her actions, all Hillary has is Hillary.

I'll write in the candidate I believe is best qualified to serve, it will be a democrat, but it won't be Hillary.

However, I could conceivably support Clinton as our VP, simply because I think she would help Obama seal the deal, and because I know that the role of VP can be minimized substantially by an active President.

[PDittie]

72. I too believe the tide is turning.

And it makes me nauseous to say so.

And I would not have said it even last week, but I now believe it is apparent that Mrs. Clinton is gathering momentum for a late surge to capture the Democratic nomination.

If she pulls out Indiana and makes it close in NC -- as the recent polling indicates she is doing -- her case for the nomination becomes stronger. Obama is having difficulty shaking the seemingly endless Wright controversy, and every day that is the news it hurts him.

One other statistical observation as evidence in the case for Mrs. Clinton: both retail store figures as well as eyewitness accounts across the country report a collapse in the sales -- and wearing -- of thong underwear and a corresponding increase in that of 100% cotton granny panties.

(Gotcha.)

I'll undervote the presidential race if she is the nominee. I don't even buy the Supreme Court argument, because we'll just get some corporate fuckstick who supports reproductive freedom instead of one opposed to it. And if that is what comes to pass, all those miserable Clinton people better remember to embrace change in 2012, or the Democratic Party is hist-O-ree.

Call me sexist if you choose. Just don't call me late to dinner.

[kwenu]

73. We Obama supporters will support our candidate to ensure that the destructive campaign of Hillary

is brought to a fast conclusion within the next 30 days or so.

[burythehatchet]

74. NEVER. Again, I apologize for ever having supported the Clintons.

[Carolina]

127. my feelings exactly

I will vote down ticket but I won't vote for her or McCain, SCOTUS notwithstanding since Republicans gave us Souter and John Paul Stevens.

[undeterred]

75. What is she the nominee for?

:shrug: Best female candidate for president?

[Barack_America]

76. DLC candidate for President.

That's the nomination I conceded to her above.

[undeterred]

82. Ah, well they're rich.

Let them buy their own country and she can be president.

[rox63]

77. Are you smoking crack or something?

Or does Planet Hillary exist in some parallel universe? :crazy:

[Jim Lane]

78. If Clinton gets the nomination, this Obama supporter will vote for her.

Working for her is another question. I have limited time and might choose to volunteer for other campaigns (Congressional or state legislative). Those races are less important but I can have more of an impact.

Living in New York, I can't usefully go door-to-door in the presidential race except by taking a long bus ride. Right here in NYC, though, we have a chance to oust a Bushbot Congressman.

Clinton's support for the war and her conduct of her campaign definitely lessen my enthusiasm for her, which affects my decision about where to spend my time.

[Terran]

84. I'll vote for her...

but otherwise your post is stupid and delusional and you should go away.

[Lady-Damai]

85. HELL NO!!!!

I will not vote for Hillary Rotten Clinton OR give money to her campaign. But, I will try to end my constant Hiterly bashing. :)

[Forkboy]

87. Thank you jlake.

[Dr Fate]

97. I thought it was Mr Benchley. n/t

n/t

[YOY]

101. Oh Mr. Benchley...I hope you know we'll always keep your secret ID a secret

[SoCalDem]

88. Drop your pants..

It's time for your injection.:rofl:

[onenote]

89. By hasn't won "in a couple of months" you actually mean, has won as many as HRC in the past 3 weeks

If you go back two months, you have four primary wins for HRC and two for Obama. If you go back one month you have one for HRC. Of course, if you consider caucuses you have to add another to the OBama win column. And then there is Texas, where HRC won the primary,but ended losing the delegate race.

And as for the answer to your question, if it should come to pass that HRC gets the nomination, I will vote for her.

Question back: if Obama gets the nomination will you change your ID to barack_win_2008?

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

91. No. I won't vote for her.

Though I'm not really an Obama supporter, he is certainly the lesser of 3 evils.

[NorthCarolina]

92. Sorry, I made a personal vow never to vote for a DLC member EVER n/t

eom

[TBF]

93. Will vote for Nadar - I don't vote for war-mongers

[Heathen57]

95. I would vote for her if I had to.

Fortunately, Obama already has it all sewn up now, we are just waiting for Clinton to realize it.

If she did somehow steal the nomination, I wouldn't be voting so much for her as against McCain. No way would she ever get any money or any volunteer work from me or my family.

[invictus]

96. No, I would not vote for Hillary or any neo-con who talks of "obliteration" and who voted for IWR.nt

[Lucky 13]

100. I didn't get the press release saying she had surpassed him in delegates!

BECAUSE IT NEVER HAPPENED.

You guys look STUPID every time you suggest that the LOSING candidate is the nominee. Just cause you say it 100 times a day, doesn't make it so.

[mtnsnake]

102. K&R

[TragedyandHope]

103. Funniest thing I've heard all year!

:rofl:

(Yes, I will vote for the Democratic nominee.)

[Left coast liberal]

104. Yes, I will if she gets the nomination. Now, please answer my ...

...question: will you support Obama if he is the nominee?

[stevenleser]

105. Official "You are completely oblivious to reality" *PLONK*

[JoFerret]

111. Plonk? How elitist

Have a beer instead.

[Blarch]

106. I don't vote republican.

[Guaranteed]

107. That's hilarious. nt

[bunnies]

108. I hope you brought enough of those magic candies to share with the entire class! nt

[Exilednight]

109. Since Hillary isn't going to win the nomination I don't have to worry about voting for her. n/t

[Erin Elizabeth]

110. It's funny...

I get away from DU for several days and engage people outside of this board and read some wide and varied news sources. And then I come here and see stuff like this and it literally makes me giggle. And it makes me a tiny bit scared. Are there actually real living breathing people who believe the stuff said in the OP? The few supporters of Hillary I know IRL have stopped talking about her, and one conceded to me she knows Hillary won't win and has known it for a while.

[Rosa Luxemburg]

112. if a candidate has been nominated under false pretenses

I won't put a Yard sign up for her. I can't support someone who is economical with the truth.

[wileedog]

113. No, she is no better than a Repug

and if the SDs overturn the PDs I'm not interested in party loyalty anymore. They don't care about my vote I sure as shit am not carrying water for them anymore.

[quakerboy]

114. Um. in what alternate universe?

as of so far, Obama is winning every real metric.

As to supporting Hillary... in the unlikely event it becomes pertinent, it would depend. Who would be the VP? Would she keep saying absolutely idiotic things that go against my moral beliefs? What will she do to win my vote? Will she join in and state unequivicaly that she will open full investigation of Bushco and if appropriate, a full prosecution?

[FlyingSquirrel]

115. Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

:boring:

[eridani]

116. Any Dem who suppresses Democratic votes will lose.

Clinton has done that so far in 14 states.

[jpertello]

118. nope. I'll stay home.

I just don't have that strong a stomach to vote for that BITCH. Maybe they should provide barf bags at the polls if Hillary gets the nomination.

[barack the house]

119. The big states are blue states. So in a GE they will be blue states. voila.

[aquarius dawning]

120. except for the ones that are swing states

which Hillary does better in than Barack...against both Obama and McCain.

[Jawja]

121. Answer:

I will NOT vote for Hillary Clinton in the GE if she gets the nomination by Super Delegate coup because her campaign has declared Obama "unelectable." :puke:

He has the lead in delegates and the lead in number of States; so if it's over TODAY, HE is the nominee.

IMHO, Hillary Clinton is "unelectable" and the GOP and their pigs in the Corporate Media will surely bring up her "baggage" in the GE against McCain.

If you think the Corporate Media went into overdrive trying to tie Obama to his Pastor, think of what they will do with tying Hillary to her cheating and adulterous HUSBAND. :eyes:

[JoFerret]

122. Oh stop

You will have people lathering and foaming in infantile rage.

[RBInMaine]

124. DOUBTFUL Hillary and her corporate media allies win the nomination.

[oviedodem]

125. Nope

[Eurobabe]

126. Non-issue, impossibility