Democratic Underground Latest Greatest Lobby Journals Search Options Help Login
Google

Clinton regarding critics of her gas-tax plan: "don't have to worry about filling up their gas tank"

Printer-friendly format Printer-friendly format
Printer-friendly format Email this thread to a friend
Printer-friendly format Bookmark this thread
This topic is archived.
Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion: Presidential (Through Nov 2009) Donate to DU
 
sabra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 12:01 PM
Original message
Clinton regarding critics of her gas-tax plan: "don't have to worry about filling up their gas tank"

http://www.swamppolitics.com/news/politics/blog/2008/05/hillary_clinton_goldilocks_of.html

<snip>

Speaking to a group comprised mostly of women at the town hall in Brownsburg, a western suburb of Indianapolis, Clinton said critics of her gas-tax suspension proposal are showing they don't understand the problems facing the working class.

"I find it, frankly, a little offensive that people who don't have to worry about filling up their gas tank or what they buy when they go to the supermarket think that it's somehow illegitimate to provide relief for the millions and millions of Americans who are on the brink of losing their job," she said.




http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalradar/2008/05/obama-rivals-su.html

Obama: Rivals Support of Gas Tax Holiday a 'Gimmick'

<snip>

Obama, who does not support the gas tax holiday, explained to seniors at a retirement home in Indiana that he believes savings would not translate into money in the pockets of drivers because gas companies would boost their prices.

"For us to pretend like we're solving the problem by giving people 30 cents a day, for a grand total of $28, and that's it. That's our plan to deal with gas prices and energy?” Obama questioned of his two opponents, lumping them together and dubbing it the "McCain-Clinton" proposal.

Obama compared the plan to the now (in)famous "Mission Accomplished" banner which hung behind President Bush after he landed on a Navy jet on an aircraft carrier off the California coast and declared the end of major combat in Iraq, a moment that has come to symbolize the administration's missteps and miscalculations with regard to the war.

"But that's how Washington works," Obama making a parallel with his opponents' support of the gas tax holiday, "People are more concerned about looking good for the cameras and for politics than they are at actually solving problems. You remember when George Bush five years ago put up a big sign in front of an aircraft carrier saying 'Mission Accomplished in Iraq. I’m sure they thought that was good politics. Except five years later we're still in this war in Iraq."

...

"You know what really burns me up is that we just read yesterday in the newspaper that Clinton's own advisers admitted that this wouldn't really work, this wasn't really gonna help lower gas prices, but they said it was good politics, because they said 'Obama was opposed to it - it might make him look bad.' But that's how Washington works."




http://www.jconline.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080501/ELECTION01/805010328

<snip>

Sen. Barack Obama: I don't think we've finalized our schedule yet, but we're going to be in Indiana the majority of the time between now and Tuesday.

And we are going to keep talking about the things that people in Indiana are talking about. Folks are worried about gas prices, obviously, and there's a debate between myself and Sen. Clinton on this issue.

She wants to suspend the federal gas tax for three months, 30 cents a month, so that's saving the average family $28. And I think that's a gimmick. It's going to drain the federal highway trust fund, it's not going to provide the kind of relief people need. And so we've been emphasizing a middle-class tax cut for working families to deal not just with the rising cost of gas, but also groceries, health care premiums and more importantly that we make sure that we're putting ourselves on a path to energy independence. So we don't have to keep on doing this every year.

And that's why I've been a consistent supporter of alternative fuels and of raising fuel efficiency standards on cars as a way of making sure that we are reducing demand and ultimately reducing gas prices.

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
chill_wind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 12:02 PM
Response to Original message
1. Hillary Clinton wants to buy your vote for less than thirty bucks. n/t
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 12:47 PM
Response to Reply #1
21. No kidding. And only she and the oil companies actually profit
from this stupid idea. We lose as usual.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
leftofcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 12:03 PM
Response to Original message
2. But what is Obama's plan for an immediate fix to the problem?
I asked this before and not one Obama supporter could or would answer. His long term idea is good but what about now?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
sabra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 12:05 PM
Response to Reply #2
4. did you see the last snip - he describes his plan and approach...
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
leftofcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 12:15 PM
Response to Reply #4
9. Yes but what about the poorest of the poor?
He has good ideas for the middle class folks but what about young families living on less than 16,000 a year? What do we do for them?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
sabra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 12:26 PM
Response to Reply #9
16. all of his plans have been online for several months:

http://www.barackobama.com/issues/poverty/



“I'm in this race for the same reason that I fought for jobs for the jobless and hope for the hopeless on the streets of Chicago; for the same reason I fought for justice and equality as a civil rights lawyer; for the same reason that I fought for Illinois families for over a decade… That's why I'm running, Democrats — to keep the American Dream alive for those who still hunger for opportunity, who still thirst for equality.”

— Barack Obama, Speech in Des Moines, IA, November 10, 2007



Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
leftofcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 12:35 PM
Response to Reply #16
17. That's nice, but what about now while he is still a Senator?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
sabra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 12:43 PM
Response to Reply #17
19. again it's all online at his senate website:
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Andy823 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 12:12 PM
Response to Reply #2
8. Correct me if I am wrong
But since Hillary is "NOT" the president yet, how does she plan on giving us the "short term" help anyway? She and McCain fail to point out that they would have to get congress to pass their plans, and I don't think that is going to happen unless the dems were in control of congress, and even then most people realize this is not going to work so they wouldn't pass it anyway! And don't forget Bush. He would veto any bill that put a tax on big oil!

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
leftofcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 12:16 PM
Response to Reply #8
10. Bernie Sanders has introduced a bill for it but you are right about
the Bushco veto
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 12:17 PM
Response to Reply #8
12. Exactly - she CAN'T give us any short term help. It's just more lying.
Sickening, really.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Occam Bandage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 12:18 PM
Response to Reply #2
14. There's no such thing as a quick fix--and every dollar spent in this panderfest
is another dollar not spent on fixing the problem.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Avalux Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 12:04 PM
Response to Original message
3. Hey Hillary, your 'gas tax holiday' would save me $17.24! Do you think we're all stupid??
And what would you know about filling up a gas tank anyway. :mad:
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
TommyO Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 01:53 PM
Response to Reply #3
22. Even with my nearly 100 mile commute
with two fillups a week, I would save a whopping $57.41 over the course of the summer. I suppose I could donate it to the Obama campaign...
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
CBGLuthier Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 12:07 PM
Response to Original message
5. Fuck her
I think the plan stinks and I work for a living.

Fuck her.

She is so full of shit her eyes are turning brown.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Andy823 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 12:08 PM
Response to Original message
6. Well I am a critic of her plan
And I sure as hell know the problems the working class face! What I fine offensive, is that she has no idea what the people of this country are going through! She can "claim" to be one of us, but in reality she does not have to worry about the price of food, gas, energy, none of that. She needs to think about the 'long" term, not another temporary fix that won't save us in the long run.

The other thing she doesn't seem to get is that taxing the big oil companies won't work. It never has. Congress comes up with this idea every year, but nothing happens. To much of that big oil "lobby" money is being spent to make sure that doesn't happen, and even if it did, they would just pass it on to the consumers!


Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
pdxmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 12:11 PM
Response to Original message
7. I find it, frankly, a little offensive that she is spouting off like this and
I have yet to see any bill in Congress that addresses this. She better get moving on that. The summer holiday is coming in less than 4 weeks.

I also find it offensive that the MSM does no analytical reporting on this.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
leftofcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 12:17 PM
Response to Reply #7
13. Bernie sanders has put forth a bill on this
just a couple of days ago. Of course, Bushco will veto it
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 12:16 PM
Response to Original message
11. No... they UNDERSTAND ECONOMICS. You know, like Krugman?
Her pandering is really sad.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Connie_Corleone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 12:20 PM
Response to Original message
15. Hillary can go fuck herself!
I make less than $50,000 and I'm against the stupid gas tax holiday. Fuck her and her pandering to white blue collar voters.

She can shove that gas tax holiday up her fucking ass!
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
TragedyandHope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 12:38 PM
Response to Original message
18. The blind leading the blind
:kick:
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Joe the Revelator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 12:46 PM
Response to Original message
20. Yes the 49 dollars a year Hillary will save me makes or breaks me when it costs..
88 dollars a week to fill up my truck. Thanks for nothing Hill!!
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
AZBlue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 02:25 PM
Response to Original message
23. She is SO full of shit.
It's astounding.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
futureliveshere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 02:27 PM
Response to Original message
24. This is great. I love the way he dubs it "McCain-Clinton" proposal.. K&R
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DU AdBot (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view 
this author's profile Click to add 
this author to your buddy list Click to add 
this author to your Ignore list Wed Apr 24th 2024, 04:31 PM
Response to Original message
Advertisements [?]
 Top

Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion: Presidential (Through Nov 2009) Donate to DU

Powered by DCForum+ Version 1.1 Copyright 1997-2002 DCScripts.com
Software has been extensively modified by the DU administrators


Important Notices: By participating on this discussion board, visitors agree to abide by the rules outlined on our Rules page. Messages posted on the Democratic Underground Discussion Forums are the opinions of the individuals who post them, and do not necessarily represent the opinions of Democratic Underground, LLC.

Home  |  Discussion Forums  |  Journals |  Store  |  Donate

About DU  |  Contact Us  |  Privacy Policy

Got a message for Democratic Underground? Click here to send us a message.

© 2001 - 2011 Democratic Underground, LLC