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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 12:57 PM
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Hillary's nightmare is getting worse (updated)
Edited on Thu May-01-08 01:39 PM by ProSense

Obama's dramatic score

by kos
Thu May 01, 2008 at 08:45:13 AM PDT
Last November, the Clinton campaign issued this following release:

The Clinton Campaign today announced the endorsement of former Democratic National Committee Chair Joe Andrew <...>

Andrew became the youngest DNC chair in party history when he took the reins in 1999, after five years as Indiana Democratic Party Chair. Under Andrew, the DNC rose out of debt, implemented new technologies and grassroots mobilization efforts, and raised more than $225 million.

Andrew is the co-founder and Chairman of the Board of The Blue Fund, a mutual fund which invests in companies meeting standards of social responsibility, environmental sustainability, community participation and respect for human rights.

He is currently a partner with the law firm Sonnenschein Nath & Rosenthal LLP in Washington, DC in the Corporate and Securities, Venture Capital and Public Law & Policy Strategies practice groups.

"Joe was a strong leader who put the Democratic Party on the right path,” Clinton said. "I'm honored to have his support."

Andrew is not a household name, but as a former DNC chair carries great cachet inside the party establishment. As such, he's just become Clinton's biggest nightmare.

A leader of the Democratic Party under Bill Clinton has switched his allegiance to Barack Obama and is encouraging fellow Democrats to "heal the rift in our party" and unite behind the Illinois senator.

Joe Andrew, who was Democratic National Committee chairman from 1999-2001, planned a news conference Thursday in his hometown of Indianapolis to urge other Hoosiers to support Obama in Tuesday's primary, perhaps the most important contest left in the White House race. He also has written a lengthy letter explaining his decision that he plans to send to other superdelegates.

"I am convinced that the primary process has devolved to the point that it's now bad for the Democratic Party," Andrew said in a telephone interview with The Associated Press.
Bill Clinton appointed Andrew chairman of the DNC near the end of his presidency, and Andrew endorsed the former first lady last year on the day she declared her candidacy for the White House.

Andrew said in his letter that he is switching his support because "a vote for Hillary Clinton is a vote to continue this process, and a vote to continue this process is a vote that assists (Republican) John McCain."

His defection to the Obama camp is a disaster for Clinton:
  • It's a high-profile, high-level signal to other super delegates that it's okay to switch to Obama in order to finally bring about the inevitable conclusion. One got the sense that many Clinton supers were getting antsy at the direction the campaign had taken. The dam was holding, but it has now sprung a leak. The whole thing now threatens to collapse.
  • It has the potential to give Obama a friendly news cycle for once. He hasn't had many of those lately what with Hillary Clinton, Bill Clinton, Jeremiah Wright, and John McCain all making common cause against Obama.
  • The math, already near-impossible for Clinton, just got that much harder. It's a net gain of two delegates for Obama -- +1 for Obama, -1 for Clinton.
  • Attack dog James Carville will likely blow his lid again.
Some people will also stress that Andrew is a Hoosier and can help Obama in his state's primary next Tuesday. You guys know my theory -- that only machine politicians actually deliver any tangible benefits at the ballot box (and that's mostly mayors, though some governors like Ed Rendell also qualify). So I would put this endorsement in the category of Bob Casey or Mike Easley -- they can't hurt, but don't expect many (if any) votes out of it.

But at this point, this is no longer a race about regular votes. Obama will win the pledged delegate, popular vote, and states won counts. The only race left is the one for the supers, and Andrew's defection is probably a fatal blow to Clinton's chances on that front.

Update: And Obama will officially pick up three more supers in Illinois next week.

Update II: And another super, this one in Texas, endorses Obama.


Since Feb 9, Obama has won 11 states to Hillary's 3

February 9

Obama wins Louisiana and Nebraska


February 10

Obama wins Maine


February 12

Obama wins District of Columbia, Maryland and Virginia


February 19

Obama wins Hawaii


March 4

Hillary wins Ohio and Rhode Island

Obama wins Texas and Vermont


March 8

Obama wins Wyoming


March 11

Obama wins Mississippi


April 22

Hillary wins PA

The media is spinning horror for Obama, but it's spin. Hillary is fighting to continue in a primary race made possible by spin. When there is no more spin, her campaign will have to accept that it's over.

Now, some are touting the latest Quinnipac poll as good news for Hillary, but the results run counter to their argument that Obama has been damaged:

On the bright side for Obama, his showings in Florida and Pennsylvania have improved since the last poll from a month ago. However, Hillary is still outperforming him in all three states.

link

Obama improved? Impossible! What about Wright-gate and Bitter-gate?

All of these BS GE polls are smoke and mirrors to bolster Hillary's argument in a race she can't win.

The movement of superdelegates is not in her favor. Obama is picking up more support and the defections are from Hillary's camps. All she can do is try to keep pace to keep the spin alive, but that's not enough:

Hillary Picks Up Four New "Add-On" Super-Dels

By Greg Sargent - May 1, 2008, 1:18PM
Hillary just picked up four new super-dels -- so-called "add ons" that were selected by the New York state party today.

The four, according to her campaign, are: Andrew Cuomo, Thomas DiNapoli, C. Virginia Field and Carmen Arroyo.

Separately, the Obama camp announced a new super-del today: Texas DNC Member John Patrick.

Between these, an earlier Connecticut super-del for Hillary, the Joe Andrew switch to Obama, and the three Illinois add-ons for Obama announced earlier, that brings the daily tally to this:

Obama netted five super-dels; Hillary netted four.

Late Update: The Obama camp says he's 283 overall delegates from winning the nomination.



70 top Clinton donors write their first checks to Obama


There is also her disastrous gas tax, which has now been rejected by the Governor of NYS:

Another gas tax dissenter

Clinton's home-state governor isn't so into the idea, as floated in the state legislature:

Governor David Paterson expressed doubts about the plan, saying he would first need a pledge from distributors and sellers of gasoline that they would actually pass the savings on to customers.

"The benefit of the tax doesn't go directly to the consumer," said Paterson. "There's a middle man. And they can't guarantee that it's going to get there right now."



Update: Hillary's eroding superdelegate lead is from NY supers.

Clinton picks up four NY supers

Posted: Thursday, May 01, 2008 2:12 PM by Domenico Montanaro

From NBC's Domenico Montanaro
Clinton picked up four more New York superdelegates--all add-ons named at the state's convention, taking place today.

Clinton, a senator from New York, has gotten the vast majority of New York's superdelegate total, buffeting her superdelegate lead, as, of course, New York is one of the most Democratic states in the country. (States get more delegates based, in part, on past presidential voting preference as well as size.) Clinton has picked up 45 New York superdelegates to Obama's one. Three NY superdelegates are undeclared, by our count.

Obama, as we've noted, is likely to pick up the three Illinois superdelegate add-ons by Monday, after they are officially named at this weekend's Illinois state convention.

There are almost 60 add-ons from various states, who have yet to be named and will likely declare their endorsements after they are appointed at state conventions. Those included, there are 276 undeclared superdelegates overall.

The New York superdelegate add-ons are: New York Attorney General Andrew Cuomo (former Gov. Mario Cuomo's son), former Manhattan Borough President C. Virginia Fields, New York Comptroller Thomas DiNapoli and New York Assemblywoman Carmen Arroyo.

SUPERDELEGATES: Clinton 272-249
PLEDGED: Obama 1,490-1,334
OVERALL: 1,739-1,606

With these four from NY (but not including those from IL), since PA, the count is Obama 12, Clinton 10.


Why exclude IL, when only two of the four from NY have committed?

Since PA: Obama 15, Hillary 10


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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 01:02 PM
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1. As soon as I saw the SD was Joe Andrew I knew the inside Dem party hammer was coming down
on Clintons at long last. I expected some of it before NC and expect a deluge after NC.

Great post ProSense.
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TexanDem Donating Member (786 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 01:11 PM
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2. K&R Good, positive, and encouraging info!!
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snooper2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 01:12 PM
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3. K&R
And, Hillary INC.'s campaign should go ahead and take him off their list of endorsements :rofl:


http://www.hillaryclinton.com/news/endorsements/


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olkaz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 01:16 PM
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4. Nice catch.
And good read.
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myrna minx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 01:17 PM
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5. K&R n/t
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nichomachus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 01:28 PM
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6. For those who don't remember the USSR
Up until things started opening up 25 years ago, it was very closed and secretive. The only way we knew what was going on was to watch public events and see who was there and who was missing.

The MayDay parade was always a big event. "Kremlin watchers" would scan the photos of the party leaders on the balcony to see who was there, who was standing next to whom -- and that would tell us who was in and who was out.

Watching the Democratic party insiders line up is much the same. Right now, it looks like the heavy hitters are going to Obama. Hillary is picking up people who owe her something big time, who aren't power hitters, or who are gambling she will win and want something in return.

It definitely looks like the edge is going to Obama.

To get the endorsement of a state rep from Oregon doesn't carry as much weight as seeing someone like Andrews switch, or Richardson, Edwards entire campaign, Bob Reich, and so on. Not all super delegates are created equal. The core of the party heavyweights are swinging to Obama.
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1776Forever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 01:30 PM
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7. Right on - Right on! Obama is the BEST person for the Presidency!
:grouphug:
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progressive25 Donating Member (52 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-03-08 01:39 PM
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44. Yeah, but, be very careful! Try not to give Hillary a free ride.
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TBF Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 01:32 PM
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8. Keep the pressure on, Dean, it's time for this to be over.
And thanks to Joe for a wonderfully worded endorsement. Her days are numbered.
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liberaldem4ever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 01:33 PM
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9. Great post-thanks for the info : )
:kick:
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 01:35 PM
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10. Hah... thanks!
The (desperate, pointless) spin was starting to get to me. :)

And I missed that about 70 of her top donors now donating to Obama! :woohoo:
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azmouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 01:57 PM
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11. Great info!
Thanks. :)
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 02:16 PM
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12. Wolfson: I'm Not Sure That Joe Andrew Is "Actually From Indiana"
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olkaz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 02:32 PM
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14. Hilarious.
I wonder if it hurts to say things that you know are completely stupid.
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progressive25 Donating Member (52 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-03-08 01:29 PM
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43. Does it.
I don't know, tell us.
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BlueIdaho Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 02:50 PM
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16. Why not just say "I'm not really sure he's as SD..." because that's what counts in the story.
Look over there - A CHICKEN!
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myrna minx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 02:57 PM
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19. D'oh. That was funny in a sad, stupid, pathetic way.
Edited on Thu May-01-08 02:57 PM by myrna minx
:rofl:
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Lucky 13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 04:11 PM
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26. So stupid it HURTS.
I seriously wonder how these people manage to get up in the morning, put pants on and make it to work. Imbeciles.
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AZBlue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 02:22 PM
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13. Another fantastic post!
Great work!!
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apocalypsehow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 02:49 PM
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15. K & R. n/t.
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TragedyandHope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 02:52 PM
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17. Bring it on home, Obama!
:kick:

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faithfulcitizen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 02:53 PM
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18. Good news! But Hillary has Bayh, which is the biggest machine of all. Baron Hill helps though!
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 02:59 PM
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20. Bayh, but that's not really the point. Hillary was expected to win IN. Now
Edited on Thu May-01-08 02:59 PM by ProSense
her surrogates are dumping money (she's broke) into anti-Obama ads in a desperated attempt to keep the illusion alive.


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faithfulcitizen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 03:30 PM
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23. I'm not trying to be negative, just realistic. If she pulls out a win, it will be because of Bayh.
But, with all the Obama signs I'm starting to see, I too think the tide might be turning here.
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 03:43 PM
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24. Sorry, I wasn't implying that you were being negative, just that Hillary was expected to win.
Thanks for the insight about the signs.

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Window Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 03:04 PM
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21. K/R.
:kick:
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 03:06 PM
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22. Thanks so much for putting this all together, Pro Sense
in such a nice tidy package.
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quantass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 04:02 PM
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25. .
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me b zola Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 04:12 PM
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27. KnR
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NeedleCast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 04:25 PM
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28. K & R
Fantastic post
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JackORoses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 04:33 PM
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29. I think you have stumbled upon some strong Troll Repellant
Edited on Thu May-01-08 04:33 PM by JackORoses
Notice how this thread lacks infestation?
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The Night Owl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 04:36 PM
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30. Why do you keep posting links to articles from that right wing hatchet man Ben Smith?
Edited on Thu May-01-08 04:36 PM by The Night Owl
Get a clue. Politico is a right wing site. Research it if you don't believe me.
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Perry Logan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 05:47 AM
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39. Anti-Hillarites love right-wing news sources. It's just further proof they're bogus.
Edited on Fri May-02-08 05:48 AM by Perry Logan
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 05:19 PM
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31.  Defection of longtime superdelegate jolts Clinton
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 05:20 PM
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32. The "MS-McCorporate Media seems to go with who they "Push Up and Who they
Push Down" and the polls follow it. VOTE WITH YOUR HEART...and know it will be CORRUPTED...it's the AMERICAN WAY!
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Coexist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 05:21 PM
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33. thanks
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L0oniX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 06:01 PM
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34. K&R
:evilgrin:
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ChimpersMcSmirkers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 06:18 PM
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35. Hillary's ship is leaving port...The SD's were her only chance and they
are breaking hard for Obama...
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crimsonblue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 06:20 PM
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36. I wouldn't be surprised if many of the NY supers were "encouraged" to endorse Hillary...
NY has a lot of black leaders, and Obama only has one superdelegate. Even if Obama only gained support from half the AA supers, he'd still have more than one. But, sometimes loyalty trumps your elected constituency.... not that there's anything wrong with that.
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rocktivity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 08:12 PM
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37. Also, her superdelegate lead has shrunk by some SEVENTY per cent.
Edited on Thu May-01-08 08:16 PM by rocknation


Her superdelegate lead was her stock-in-trade, what she was going to use as leverage against Obama's pledged delegate and popular vote leads with the superdelegates. But that's on the verge of going into single digits.

:headbang:
rocknation
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CoffeeCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 05:02 AM
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38. Champagne corks will pop...
...when that Super disparity goes into single digits.

The NC and IN numbers are looking great for Obama.

Soon, the charade will end.
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 10:35 AM
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40. Obama endorsed by former DNC Chair Paul Kirk
Edited on Fri May-02-08 10:35 AM by ProSense

Former DNC Chair Paul G. Kirk, Jr. Endorses Obama

By Sam Graham-Felsen - May 2nd, 2008 at 9:14 am EDT

Chicago, IL – Today, Former Democratic National Committee Chair and Massachusetts supderdelegate Paul G. Kirk, Jr. endorsed Barack Obama.

The endorsement brings the total number of superdelegates to endorse Barack Obama to 253. Senator Obama is 279 delegates away from securing the Democratic nomination.

His statement is below:

“It is with a great sense of pride and confidence in his leadership that I am delighted to publicly endorse Senator Barack Obama and pledge my support to him as former National Democratic Chairman and as a superdelegate. Senator Obama is the one candidate who has and will continue to expand the electorate beyond the traditional Democratic party base and bring young and new and Independent voters to the Democratic banner in November, an essential ingredient to a Democratic victory.

“Throughout his life and public career, has fought the tough fights to advance the quality of life of the working families of Illinois, not with election year gimmicks like the gas tax holiday espoused by others, but by hard headed, common sense solutions, and that’s what he will do as President of the United States.

“America never turns back. America always marches forward to seize the future. 8 of 10 Americans believe their country is on the wrong track. Senator Obama is the one candidate who, in the best tradition of American history, will not take us back but will lead us to a new future.

“Senator Obama is the one candidate best able to quickly restore America’s respect and reputation globally. Senator Obama is the one candidate best able to set the tone at the top for the unity and reconciliation needed in this country, to bring us together, to define our common goals and to provide the inspiration to move us forward.

“After the attention paid to the poisonous and polarizing diatribe of recent days, Senator Obama’s clear and compelling message which appeals to our best instincts as Americans is more important than ever. For all these reasons, I heartily endorse Senator Obama and hope my colleagues will do the same.”



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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 02:38 PM
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41. Clear sign that Andrew was a big loss, Hillary pulls out her DNC Chairs list
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-03-08 01:27 PM
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42. Operation Anti-Chaos: The Narrative on "White Voters" Is Fiction
Operation Anti-Chaos: The Narrative on "White Voters" Is Fiction




Nobody - not blogger, nor superdelegate, nor cable news anchor - should open their mouths with another word about this contest until they've studied those graphs and the numbers upon which they are based. Blow explains:

Since January, the Clintons have pummeled Barack Obama with racially tinged comments and questions about his character...

The question is this: Have white Democrats soured on Obama? Apparently not. Although his unfavorable rating from the group is up five percentage points since last summer in polls conducted by The New York Times and CBS News, his favorable rating is up just as much.

Wait. The numbers show that the cynical effort to turn the 2008 campaign into a race riot has hurt the popularity of one candidate among an important demographic, and it's not Barack Obama:

On the other hand, black Democrats' opinion of Hillary Clinton has deteriorated substantially (her favorable rating among them is down 36 percentage points over the same period).

So, to sum up: Look at the damn graphs. You can see that Clinton is in a staggering free-fall among African-American voters, her favorability is down 36 points while 17 percent view her more negatively than before, while Obama's favorable and negative ratings among whites have paired at five point increases. You can even see the small dip - about two percentage points - in his popularity among whites that can be attributed to the news cycles about his ex-pastor, and see that it has leveled out and is now on a straight horizontal line (meanwhile, Clinton's numbers among blacks continue on an extreme downward precipice). The greater context is that even including Obama's slight dip, he's more popular today among white voters than he ever was prior to February.

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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-04-08 09:19 AM
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45. Add Guam as a win for Obama. Also, Andrew (on IN and NC): Obama will 'win both'
Edited on Sun May-04-08 09:20 AM by ProSense

Andrew: Obama will 'win both'

Joe Andrew, the most famous new Obama supporter, proved unhelpful in the expectations game on Fox just now.

"I think he's going to win both," he tells Chris Wallace of Indiana and North Carolina.

Both campaigns are doing their best to damp down expectations in races that probably offer the last chance for an even marginally meaningful surprise.


Interesting.

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