Democratic Underground Latest Greatest Lobby Journals Search Options Help Login
Google

Difference between Hillary and Obama Super Delegates.....

Printer-friendly format Printer-friendly format
Printer-friendly format Email this thread to a friend
Printer-friendly format Bookmark this thread
This topic is archived.
Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion: Presidential (Through Nov 2009) Donate to DU
 
KansasVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 08:07 PM
Original message
Difference between Hillary and Obama Super Delegates.....
Super Delegates suppot Hillary because of her political power and their fear of her down the road if they don't support her.

Super Delegates support Obama because they respect him and know he can actually change this country for the better.

That is why I support Obama!
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
Bensthename Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 08:08 PM
Response to Original message
1. Hillary is well known over Obama and he is getting most of them, so
are they for Obama or against Hillary??
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
PoliticalAmazon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 08:15 PM
Response to Reply #1
9. Lois Capps' endorsement told a lot. She was a real Hillary loyalist. n/t
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
mtnsnake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 08:09 PM
Response to Original message
2. The Super Delegates with a brain support Hillary because she's by far the most competent & honest
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
RichGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 08:12 PM
Response to Reply #2
4. Exactly right.
None of Obamas SDs can't pull away from him because they would be accused of being racist.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
mtnsnake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 08:16 PM
Response to Reply #4
10. You nailed it, RichGirl
None of Obamas SDs can't pull away from him because they would be accused of being racist


Spot on :thumbsup:
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
RichGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 08:10 PM
Response to Original message
3. And...
you had personal conversations with ALL the SDs and they told you this. Wow, I'm impressed.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
KansasVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 08:13 PM
Response to Reply #3
5. No, common sense tells you no one respects her, they fear her.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
cbayer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 08:13 PM
Response to Original message
6. Don't be fooled for a minute into thinking
Edited on Fri May-02-08 08:14 PM by cbayer
that the SD's have anything but their own political futures in mind.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
KansasVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 08:14 PM
Response to Reply #6
7. Hillary's do.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Oregone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 08:14 PM
Response to Original message
8. Then explain why normal people support her?
Edited on Fri May-02-08 08:16 PM by Oregone
The bottom line is some people prefer her to Obama and she appeals to them (even if you can't see how she can appeal to anyone with a brain).

Yes, her SD count is proportionally higher than her current vote count compared to Obama, but its definately reasonable that the people simply like her in both counts (and moreso in the SD count). Perhaps the reason she appeals to a larger portion of the SDs than real people is because they are exactly the type of people her appeal is most strong on (established centrist politicians). Then again, maybe she, with her contacts, just got to them early. Its tough running against an incumbant, and with a name like "clinton", that is sort of what is happening here.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
mtnsnake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 08:19 PM
Response to Reply #8
12. Careful now. These jokers living here in La La Land wouldn't know what normal is
Some of them actually think that DU reflects what happens in the real world. Imagine that...
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Solomon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 08:20 PM
Response to Reply #8
13. The only reason she has more SDs is they declared before
there was even a race. As to SDs not being able to switch because of racism, how do you explain the SDs who went for Obama when they didn't have to, and also the ones who switched from Clinton to Obama?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
cascadiance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 08:49 PM
Response to Reply #8
14. I think Obama leaning SD's are waiting for the "mathematically impossible" moment...
... and that's when a SWARM of them will endorse Obama.

There are many SD's that would endorse Obama but are holding off because either their state hasn't voted yet in their primary, or they voted for Clinton. If they endorse him now, then they will be accused of going against what many on his side should be the guiding principle for the SD's to vote on (who the people voted for). Now if their state has voted for Obama already, they have cover to go ahead and endorse him. But if that state hasn't, a better time for them to endorse him is when it is mathematically impossible for her to catch up in terms of pledged delegates. At that point the SD's then will feel justified in supporting Obama since the "nation has committed to supporting him through the pledged delegate majority", and that can override them voting for him contrary to what their state voted for. Enough Clinton delegates are already committing to her against the will of their state where they can justify this. They can say that they aren't going against the will of the American people whereas Clinton SD's voting against the voters of their state can't.

And since the Clinton SD's aren't likely to get to that "mathematically impossible" moment, many of them that want to go against their state might as well do it now if they are going to do it and not wait.

That's why I think the sea of remaining uncommitted is likely to mostly go to Obama soon, and at that point, we'll work on the GE campaign, and hopefully Clinton will see that as the point to make a graceful and honorable exit for party unity.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
KansasVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 10:59 PM
Response to Reply #14
15. Obama will destroy her!
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 08:18 PM
Response to Original message
11. Learn What An Ipse Dixit Argument Is And Then Don't Make Any More Of Them
~
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DU AdBot (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view 
this author's profile Click to add 
this author to your buddy list Click to add 
this author to your Ignore list Fri Apr 26th 2024, 11:37 AM
Response to Original message
Advertisements [?]
 Top

Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion: Presidential (Through Nov 2009) Donate to DU

Powered by DCForum+ Version 1.1 Copyright 1997-2002 DCScripts.com
Software has been extensively modified by the DU administrators


Important Notices: By participating on this discussion board, visitors agree to abide by the rules outlined on our Rules page. Messages posted on the Democratic Underground Discussion Forums are the opinions of the individuals who post them, and do not necessarily represent the opinions of Democratic Underground, LLC.

Home  |  Discussion Forums  |  Journals |  Store  |  Donate

About DU  |  Contact Us  |  Privacy Policy

Got a message for Democratic Underground? Click here to send us a message.

© 2001 - 2011 Democratic Underground, LLC