*** Official Guam Results Thread ***

[Coexist]

http://demconwatch.blogspot.com/2008/05/guam-primary-results-and-la-01la-06.html

If you can stay up until 6:00 am EST, you can be the first to see the results!

http://bp1.blogger.com/_fy37l0THUjc/SBoyv1CqRwI/AAAAAAAAAEw/6R5pysVfM6M/s320/Aerial+view+of+Guam007.jpg

Some fun facts about Guam, to keep you occupied!

Welcome to Guam visitor's guide!

Are you from Guam and don't know where to caucus? Check here!

Barack Obama's Open Letter to the people of Guam.

Hillary Clinton's video message to Guam.













Go Guam!

[Window]

1. K/R.

:kick:

[frickaline]

2. thanks for the link (K&R), and here's some humor on Guam in return :)

For anyone that missed Stephen Colbert's bit on Guam, this was pretty funny:

http://www.comedycentral.com/colbertreport/videos.jhtml?videoId=167396

[Coexist]

3. LOL! thanks for posting this - I was looking for it.

[Yael]

18. Oh. My. Word. ROFL!

That was HYSTERICAL!

The looks on her face in response to him throughout were awesome!!!

:rofl:

[FOS]

46. "LORD ABOVE !"

That was so funny. I loved it.

[TexasLady]

22. Oh my DAMN but that was great.

I love snakes. All snakes. hehe.

[City Lights]

73. That was one of the funniest interviews I've seen him do!

The facial expressions and hand gestures from both of them were hysterical!

She was great!

[frickaline]

74. I thought so too

Honestly I don't know how she keeps herself from laughing.

My favorite part:
Colbert: "The Japanese were your occupiers in WWII, is that ever akward?"
Bordallo: "Yes, I'm glad you asked that--"
Colbert: "I'm glad I asked that too. For a second, I didn't think I was going to. "
Bordallo: "Well--"
Colbert: "Moving on ..."

:rofl:

[XemaSab]

91. CLASSIC!

:D

[RiverStone]

kicking for all Guamanians!

very funny :hi:

[AspenRose]

123. That's up there with the episode with Eleanor Holmes Norton.

"Aloha." Bwahahahahaha :rofl:

[Patsy Stone]

4. Phew

I was worried I'd be the last to know. Thanks!

:)

[Coexist]

6. its been a really long day

I couldn't resist!!!!!

[Patsy Stone]

10. It's been a long week

But TGIF!

:toast: Here's to Guam!

[Coexist]

20. Guam!

I originally began this thread as a bit of fun... but its lookin' like its the "official" official thread.

[truth-warrior]

5. Counting down to victory!

Rumor is Hillary is going to do very well!

[caseycoon]

7. K&R Thanks for posting this! n/t

[Tribetime]

8. Hope the night owls will keep this kicked

don't want to look to hard for it in the morning....Thanks...kick

[Muttocracy]

9. bookmark it! nt

[Tribetime]

11. ah so that's what that's for

our office secretary would agree with you how much of an idiot I am on computers.(sorry I'm a plumber)

[Muttocracy]

15. No shame in real job skills!

You can either use the Bookmark on your Internet Explorer / Firefox / whatever browser, or the link near the upper left on DU pages that says "bookmark this thread". I keep figuring out new features on DU all the time- lots I haven't tried yet.

[Yael]

17. Click on My DU tomorrow. It will show your last 48 hours of posts with links back

Unless you were just being snarky.

In either case :toast: Happy Weekend to ya!

(Hard to tell sometimes :) )

[William769]

23. Like this?

[Yael]

63. Yep!

:P

[woolldog]

12. For some reason I have the impression that Guam voters

are high information voters. Maybe because they live on an island and have live a slower pace of life and have time to read and absorb the news.

Anyone know? Anyone been there?

[bhikkhu]

14. My sister lives their, for two years now.

She has said that the people there are primarily pretty bored, and watch a lot of TV. Not a good sign...

[avrdream]

13. Worst airport I have ever been in, the Guam airport.

Other than that, I'm sure it is a good place with decent people.

Go Hillary!

[Obamanaut]

56. My wife and I were on Guam for three years. We were there when

the first 747 landed at the Guam International Airport, and also for the opening of the first MacDonald's (1968 - 1971).

[Aloha Spirit]

98. Wow! I wonder how many burger joints there are today.

[Yael]

16. I would have loved to go canvass in Guam

May have even knocked on a few doors or made some calls while I was in the area.

[DeepModem Mom]

19. Thank you! nt

[anAustralianobserver]

21. Guam result: a bellwether, critical or all-important?

"As Guam goes, so goes the Galaxy."
- anonymous Guamanian

"Look at his googly eyes!"
- Steve Irwin holding a Guamanian brown tree snake

[Aloha Spirit]

24. Latest report from Guam at Guam Pacific Daily News:

(btw I think Clinton is looking good here. She got American Samoa)

http://www.guampdn.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080503/NEWS01/80503006
1:42 p.m. -- Residents began lining up in large numbers this morning at 10 a.m. to cast their vote for the Guam Democratic Party's chairman and vice chairman -- who will act as superdelegates with a full vote in the ongoing Democratic presidential nomination.

Cynthia Estrada of Dedeo, though still making up her mind while waiting in line to cast her vote, said she was leaning toward Hillary Clinton for the Democratic nomination.

"She's had the experience," she said. "She's got her husband to help her."

Yona resident Tommy Shimizu said he was voting for Obama. He had been at the Yona Mayor's office all day, passing out information about the presidential hopeful.

"It's the fact that he grew up in Hawaii, and I think he can make change," he said. "I think it's time for that."

Shimizu added that today's opportunity to have a voice in the party nomination for presidential candidate was "a big step for Guam."

[ellisonz]

45. "She's got her husband to help her."

Are we sure that's what he's actually doing?

[VolcanoJen]

25. OGUAMA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

:bounce: :bounce: :bounce:

[demwing]

31. that made my feel goods chuckle /nt

[Justitia]

38. LOL - You are too good! Love it. -eom

[Aloha Spirit]

26. The island-wide science fair is just wrapping up in 15 minutes, I'm sure we'll see a groundswell of

caucusing then.

[Aloha Spirit]

27. Guamanians are "overwhelmingly Roman-catholic" according to NYT... not good for my man!

[Barack_America]

28. Any early exit polls yet?

;)

[Aloha Spirit]

29. The kid with the volcano looks likely to get first place in the science fair.

[Justitia]

42. LMAO! -eom

[grantcart]

200. DUzy lol

[SoxFan]

30. The surprise winner

This is an island in the middle of the Pacific that nobody seems to know about...

[Aloha Spirit]

32. Ha, Clinton promised Guam the right to vote for President. Here's a good article from Fox

http://elections.foxnews.com/2008/05/02/clinton-obama-fight-long-distance-battle-in-guam/

[davidpdx]

33. Ex-pat in South Korea here

It will be strange having one primary actually happen an hour AHEAD of the time zone I'm in. Usually I'm up early the morning after (Korea is +9 UTC) watching results.

[Aloha Spirit]

34. Wow! I'm really tickled about watching these results too. A good excuse to learn about Guam.

[bhikkhu]

39. Pop 175k or so. Very serious about elections.

I called my sister there a little earlier in the evening to ask her about it. She said when there are local elections everybody is out like its a festival - everybody votes. I didn't press her on politics, but she mentioned it was a surprise how many Obama signs she has seen around...no predictions though.

[Aloha Spirit]

41. "very serious about elections" I like the sound of that.

[Aloha Spirit]

35. Wow, Obama got those internet ads all over Guam internet news.

http://www.pacificnewscenter.com/

[Hoof Hearted]

36. Oh hell no.

[Vote2008]

37. Wouldn't it take a huge lead not to cause a split??

[Aloha Spirit]

40. I assume it's the usual 62.5% for a 3-1 result, but there are also 4 avail SD's ...

[Aloha Spirit]

43. My bad, they use half votes....

http://www.mvariety.com/?module=displaystory&story_id=10817&format=html

Guam holds nine delegate votes, five of which are super delegate votes. Congresswoman Madeleine Z. Bordallo, national committeeman and national committeewoman, as well as the chair and vice chair of the Democratic Party of Guam make up the five super delegate votes.

The remaining four delegate votes will go to those who have pledged their support for either Clinton or Obama. Four men and four women will win the pledged delegate seats. Each winning delegate gets a half vote.

[DerekJ]

44. kick

[DangerousRhythm]

47. Kick N/T

[aquarius dawning]

48. I love Guam. I'd live there in a second regardless of who they vote for.

GO GUAM!

[MrSlayer]

49. Damnit! I waited up and no results yet.

Instant gratification damnit!

[quantass]

50. Reading that it just closed 45 mins ago (one area had delays) and its now off to Legislature for

doing the counting for the rest of the day which will be coming in i am guessing in within 1 hour.

[tekisui]

51. Kick, no word yet?

[davidpdx]

52. Kicking your kick

Haha..what a kick!

Any news yet?

[DerekJ]

53. Counting Of Caucus Ballots Begins

9:11 p.m. Guam - A little more than an hour after the polls closed, the ballot counting for Guam's Democrat Caucus has begun.

According to Dolores Tusic, a precinct volunteer at the Agana Shopping Center, the election went relatively smoothly.

She noted, however, that many Democrats were upset because their names were not on the party's register.

Election Central is located in the Guam Legislature's Public Hearing


http://www.pacificnewscenter.com/default.asp?sourceid=&smenu=161&twindow=Default&mad=No&sdetail=24086&wpage=1&skeyword=&sidate=&ccat=&ccatm=&restate=&restatus=&reoption=&retype=&repmin=&repmax=&rebed=&rebath=&subname=&pform=&sc=1718&hn=pacificnewscenter&he=.com

[Coexist]

54. thanks - looks like 10% counted

http://www.thegreenpapers.com/P08/GU-D.phtml

[DerekJ]

55. 0 Votes for Obama. They really like Clinton there.

[Patsy Stone]

57. Here's to Guam, and its HCPB.

I'm jealous.

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/05/03/steady-voter-turnout-in-guam-caucuses/

"The polls closed on Guam at 8 p.m. local time (6 a.m. ET). Hand tabulation of the ballots is expected to take approximately three hours. In the island’s 2006 gubernatorial election, 55,311 people were registered to vote. The Democratic candidate received nearly 19,000 votes, and although voter turnout today is steady, election officials say it is not expected to be unusually high."

[The Ghost]

58. Obama winning so far

http://www.guampdn.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080503/NEWS01/80504002

[kevinbgoode]

76. OBAMA leading 395 -320 after six districts counted

eom/

[IDemo]

59. That had to have been one tough goal post move

[Coexist]

60. Obama up 26 points

http://www.pacificnewscenter.com/default.asp?sourceid=&smenu=161&twindow=Default&mad=No&sdetail=24091&wpage=1&skeyword=&sidate=&ccat=&ccatm=&restate=&restatus=&reoption=&retype=&repmin=&repmax=&rebed=&rebath=&subname=&pform=&sc=1718&hn=pacificnewscenter&he=.com

12:00 a.m. Guam – The results of three precincts are in, but the ballot counting at election central is still behind at this hour. After Maina, Ordot and Inarajan reported, Senator Barack Obama is leading Senator Hillary Clinton by 26 percentage points.

But the manual counting this year seems to be taxing officials. In fact, Herbie Perez, chairperson of the Democrat’s nominating committee, has stopped overseeing the process to form another group with her at the helm. She told the Pacific News Center previously that she expected tabulations to be complete by 11:30 p.m.

[goclark]

61. I thought Clinton was to win Guam?

[Coexist]

62. me too.... AP is on the results now: Obama 56, Clinton 40

http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5g8-DEMtAE9q4i4ySQ0eV_qZefmRQD90E750G1

AP Top News at 10:08 a.m. EDT
13 minutes ago

HAGATNA, Guam (AP) — The first results are in from Saturday's daylong Guam Democratic caucuses. With more than 3,000 votes expected in the U.S. territory, Barack Obama delegates had 56 votes and Clinton delegates had 40.

[goclark]

64. Kick ~ Obama wants us to value everyone

Let's keep kicked

[goclark]

226. I know I read that HCBC was set to win Guam

:crazy: Does someone have a link to that prediction?

[MaineDem]

65. Obama over Clinton 64% - 36% with 11% in

http://abcnews.go.com/politics/elections/state?state=GU&ref=ipb

[RBInMaine]

66. I hope this holds ! KICK OBAMA !!

[frickaline]

68. so cute, barely 200 votes :) most adorable election ever

[Coexist]

70. I think they said about 5,000 votes total.

[frickaline]

75. I think its more like 2-3 thousand, the breaking news was at just over 200 votes which is about 10%

[Aloha Spirit]

77. CNN is doing percent by district because of the caucus format, as in, 2/21 districts

[Bensthename]

67. If Obama wins this the election is over for Hillary..

This will be a huge win.

[goclark]

69. Every vote counts K

[Diamonique]

71. Love this thread. :-) n/t

Kick

[Aloha Spirit]

72. Check out those latte/limousine libs in Guam!

http://www.guampdn.com/apps/pbcs.dll/gallery?Avis=M0&Dato=20080503&Kategori=NEWS01&Lopenr=503004&Ref=PH

[JimGinPA]

78. Great Pics!

:thumbsup:

[npincus]

80. I know a Starbucks drinker when I see one!

:rofl:

[goclark]

93. Something tells me they are voting for

Obama.

[4_Legs_Good]

What do we need to get a 3-1 split?

David

[Aloha Spirit]

81. I don't think anyone knows, because there are 8 half-delegates, but who knows how they're

distributed.

I also read that 2 of the SD's are awarded according to the caucus results

[tekisui]

157. 63%+

[Aloha Spirit]

79. 5 districts in, Obama leading 395-320 according to pacific daily news

[DerekJ]

83. How many districts total?

[Aloha Spirit]

86. 21 according to CNN

[DerekJ]

89. Thanks

[WeDidIt]

82. Could it be? Is it possible?

OGUAMA!

[npincus]

84. LOL

good one! :rofl:

[Colobo]

85. Obama is winning 497-401 after 7 districts!

[DerekJ]

88. Isn't Guam Clinton country?!

[Bensthename]

90. Must be alot of elitist in Guam

:donut:

[TheDoorbellRang]

101. Where are you looking for election results?

[sniffa]

96. *snort*

:rofl:

[JimGinPA]

87. Have The White "Blue Collar" Districts Come In Yet?

:shrug:

[goclark]

95. That's what I was wondering and

How are they counting the votes?

Do they watch Fox News and CNN and Tweety all day?

[Coexist]

99. by hand, I think, from the articles I have been reading on this

http://www.pacificnewscenter.com/default.asp?sourceid=&smenu=161&twindow=Default&mad=No&sdetail=&wpage=&skeyword=&sidate=&ccat=&ccatm=&restate=&restatus=&reoption=&retype=&repmin=&repmax=&rebed=&rebath=&subname=&pform=&sc=1718&hn=pacificnewscenter&he=.com

[Aloha Spirit]

92. Guam is infinitely more important than Florida

Guam = 9 delegates
Florida = 0 delegates
9/0= infinity

[Coexist]

94. "although small, the GDP was able to read and follow the rules of the party to which it belongs"

"thereby ensuring its 4 delegates would be seated."

(( not a real quote - much snark from sunny Florida ))

[Aloha Spirit]

97. Haha--that would have been awesome if Guam defiantly moved up the primary.

[featherman]

100. My spouse was a little girl on Guam for two years while her dad flew

PBY sea planes for Trans-Ocean Airlines, an inter island service to Yap, Koror, Saipan etc.

She LOVED it there and mentions it often as some of the best years or her life. This was back in the 1950's.

Without thinking too much about it, she had assumed all along Guam would be Obama country

[Colobo]

102. After 10 districts counted, Obama 719, Clinton 629

[Aloha Spirit]

103. I can live with that.

[Adelante]

108. Much better than expected

Let's hope it holds.

[Hope And Change]

104. Voting half-done; Obama still in lead

Voting half-done; Obama still in lead
Pacific News Center Staff Reporter 04.MAY.08
1:45 a.m. Guam – With 11 out of 19 precincts reporting, Senator Barack Obama is leading Senator Hillary Clinton by 6 percentage points. The total preference count so far is Obama with 768 to Clinton’s 680.

Meanwhile, the race for Party Chair and Vice-Chair isn’t as close as the delegates’. With over half of the counting done the team of Pillar Lujan and Jaime Paulino is leading the three teams with 48 percent of the vote.

[livetohike]

105. That's good news. I thought Guam was expected to go to

the Clintons. Go Obama! Move a few delegates closer to the magic number :-).

[Aloha Spirit]

106. Agreed. I don't see why Clinton bothered to pander to Guam: small, caucus primary, ie, doesn't count

[thoughtcrime1984]

115. Was she promising them a gas tax holiday too? nt

[Aloha Spirit]

117. She promised them votes for presidential GE's

In an interview with KUAM-TV, Clinton, asked about giving Guam citizens the right to vote for president, said, "I am in favor of full voting rights for every American and that includes the people on Guam."

"It seems to me that it is long past time that we remedy this inequity," Clinton said. "It doesn't reflect American values; it is out of step with the move toward equality and full citizenship rights, and I will do everything I can to make sure the people of Guam's votes are counted. It seems to me that it is long past time that we remedy this inequity. It doesn't reflect American values; it is out of step with the move towards equality and full citizenship rights, and I will do everything I can to make sure the people of Guam's vote are counted."

[Colobo]

110. It's Obama time!

[book_worm]

107. If Guam goes for Obama that will be his 31st victory to Clinton's 15

[Bensthename]

111. but Hillary will be quick to tell all the states that dont count...

And I'm sure when she does that those states really appreciate that.

[WeDidIt]

109. With 11 of 19 caucus centers reporting

It's now 768 Obama 680 Clinton.

That's 57% Obama, 680 Clinton with 58% reporting...

[davsand]

112. Is there still an Air Force base on Guam?

I know there used to be--but I dunno if there still is. If that base is still there I'd be interested to see how Obama and Hil do with the military folks and their dependents...

Guam may have more information/insights to offer than you might think given their small size!


:)


Laura

[Aloha Spirit]

114. Yep, still an AF base.

[Jersey Devil]

116. Yes there is

My son in law while stationed in Anchorage last year was sent to Guam for military exercises for a 3 month deployment. But I have no idea how many are actually stationed there with their families. His AF unit (90th Fighter Squadron) flew in and flew out and families stayed behind in Anchorage for the deployment.

[davsand]

136. We used to have an AF training base locally. I knew folks who got sent to Guam.

This was MANY years ago when Chanute was still open. I worked with a few of the wives from Chanute and I knew a couple of them that ended up moving to Guam from here in Illinois. I think I remember them saying they were gonna be there for at least a couple of years. I always kind of envied them a tiny bit because it seemed so exotic and exciting. (Now, in my later years the idea of packing up the entire household and moving it across the planet would be overwhelming!)

Anyhow, I figured it would be kind of interesting to see how the folks actually serving in the military vote in this Primary.



Laura

[Jersey Devil]

147. I think it would be awfully difficult to track how they vote

My daughter and son in law now are stationed in Idaho. Up until last year they were in Alaska, then before that North Carolina and before that Pensacola, Fla. They both vote absentee in NJ, so how you'd track down who voted from where in the service I can't imagine.

[RBInMaine]

122. Guam non-residents on a US base have to vote absentee their home states where they are registered.

[davsand]

140. Ah! Thanks for that--I was not sure!

No real way to tell, then, how the actual military vote goes.

As we have seen over and over again polling in this race is next to useless. I have wondered (as I am sure many others have!)


Laura

[bhikkhu]

149. And a naval base, of course

I think the bigger part of the island economy is US military

on edit - not the bigger part of the population, but of the "money coming in".

[madrchsod]

113. oh no!

it looks like obama is going to steal another caucus...is their time for hillary to win?

if she wins guam, she`ll get the big mo that will assure her victory in the rest of the primary's...

yes hillary can do it!

[Vinca]

118. Obviously you're forgetting something . . .

caucuses don't count.:rofl:

[RBInMaine]

119. Unless they are Guam residents, they must vote absentee to their home states.

[Aloha Spirit]

120. This KUAM headline makes Obama sound desperate: "Obama clings to 6% lead"

[senseandsensibility]

129. Yeah, it should say Obama maintains 6% lead

"cling" is a loaded word. As a journalism undergraduate writing for a decent sized college paper, I knew better than that. :shrug:

[Aloha Spirit]

137. Obama should hire you when you graduate, to help him work on his extemporaneous comments ;-)

[Adelante]

131. Why wouldn't they vote Democrats Abroad?

Do you know?

[MaineDem]

141. I don't think there's a DA group there

I'm not sure if that's a requirement for voting in the Dems Abroad primary.

[Colobo]

121. It's Obama time.

[Aloha Spirit]

124. Just in: "Obama widens lead over Clinton" I can't read how much tho. nt

[Aloha Spirit]

127. 899 / 769

http://www.guampdn.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080503/NEWS01/80504010

[KAZ]

125. 63% reporting. O - 899 (54%), C - 769 (46%)

http://abcnews.go.com/politics/elections/state?state=GU&ref=ipb

[Colobo]

126. Obama wins in Guam. That's it.

[Aloha Spirit]

130. BUT does it constitute a "blow-out" ?

[WeDidIt]

Not necessarily

The big villages still have yet to be counted.

[thewiseguy]

133. The big villages?!

:D

[WeDidIt]

134. They are pretty good sized villages

Dededo 42,980
Yigo 19,474
Tamuning (including Tumon) 18,012
Mangilao 13,313
Barrigada 8,652

[Aloha Spirit]

135. this village could give Hillary the edge

just kidding ;-)
that's mexico city.

[Aloha Spirit]

144. Seriously though, I read Dededo is the village to keep an eye on.

[milkyway]

150. LOL! That's hilarious!

[WeDidIt]

128. OGUAMA! OGUAMA! OGUAMA! OGUAMA!

WOOOOOOOHOOOOOOOO!!!!

[madrchsod]

132. john got 9 votes! it`s a landslide!

[TahitiNut]

138. This is really rather remarkable. It's Obama, 54% to 46% with 63% reporting.

Absolutely everything I've read had this as a lock for Clinton - an expected 10-15% margin of vistory for the Hillarious. It seems the people of Guam have their own opinions.

:shrug:

[frickaline]

139. to be honest, I don't know who was saying this, no on bothered to poll there

[MattP]

142. Not suprised at all

I expected Obama to win, because he was raised in Hawaii and people there would look fondly on that but promising them the vote in Nov. probably tugs at some heartstrings and gave Hillary some votes. I bet she is going to promise full statehood to Puerto Rico which I am not really against.

[WeDidIt]

143. I think it was because

she was the only candidate who has ever actually been there.

[livetohike]

145. She was there in 1995 - not during this campaign

:hi:

[WeDidIt]

176. I know

but she is still the only candidate to ever set foot on the island.

[woolldog]

146. I think the infamous Obama campaign memo had him winning Guam.

Didn't it?

[writes3000]

148. Yep. 55% - 44%, in fact. n/t

[morningglory]

178. Wait till after dark. That is when the roaches come out and crawl over the

keys and wires inside the Votorama 2000 and cause votes to change or be lost.

[demwing]

151. I Called It

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=5792627&mesg_id=5792713

Though I was a little over enthusistic (68/32)

[cjsmom44]

153. RE: MORE RESULTS

Obama 1007 - Clinton 875

http://www.kuam.com/...

[helderheid]

154. welcome to DU and WOW!

:woohoo:

[Aloha Spirit]

152. Obama : 1007 to 874

[Ichingcarpenter]

155. That's a 14% lead !

[quantass]

156. O - C: 54% - 46% (12 of 21 villages) 68% reporting

[madrchsod]

158. it`s not over yet...she will win

[bhikkhu]

159. Q: Has a candidate EVER lost Guam, then won in the GE?

[Aloha Spirit]

160. I just want to point out that 2 of the SD's are chosen in this primary, and Obama looks to pick up

at least one SD there.
Lujan/Paulino is waaaayyy ahead.
from CNN:
"Also on the ballot Saturday was the race for chairman and vice chairman of the U.S. territory's Democratic party. The winners of that race will serve as superdelegates. According to the election official, the slate of Pilar Lujan and Jaime Paulino currently leads the slate of Joseph Artero Cameron and Arlen Bordallo. Lujan remains uncommitted in the race for president while running-mate Paulino has endorsed Obama. Both Cameron and Bordallo have endorsed Clinton. Incumbent chairman Tony Charfauros and running-mate Mary Ann Cabrera are currently in third place. Neither has endorsed a presidential candidate."

[Aloha Spirit]

161. Yet to report: the densely populated villages of Dededo, Yigo, Yona, Tamuning, and Talofofo

http://www.kuam.com/news/27690.aspx

[Aloha Spirit]

162. Obama : 1201 to 1029 (14 districts)

[KAZ]

163. O - 1,393 (53%), C - 1,222 (47%).

http://www.kuam.com/news/27691.aspx

[Aloha Spirit]

164. ...

:party:

[MattP]

171. Lujan about to be the head of the DNC in Guam

Pilar Lujan if elected will be a super D for Obama.

[woolldog]

166. I'm starting to get nervous here.....

:scared:

[goclark]

168. Me too

[woolldog]

174. hang in there!

:toast:

[Aloha Spirit]

169. I'm not. I bet the youth vote is huge in Talofofo*

*based on gut feeling.

[woolldog]

173. lol

:spray: your posts on this thread are cracking me up

[Aloha Spirit]

177. haha.

I'm over-enthusiastic because I knew *nothing* about Guam until yesterday.
It's so cool that we're counting votes along with the Guamanians 8,000 miles away!

[Adelante]

165. 2/3 votes counted: Obama ahead by 7%

With more than two-thirds of the votes for the 2008 Guam Democrat Caucus now in the books, presidential candidate hopeful Barack Obama has claimed a major victory after winning Mangilao, one of the island's larger and more populous villages. That village reported that it has 262 new registered Democrats. Voting for several other big villages is still pending, including Talofofo, Yigo, Yona, and, perhaps most significant, Dededo.

But things are looking up for the Hillary Clinton camp, as the New York legislator won Tamuning by a single vote, 193-192. Overall Obama has 1,393 votes (53%) to Clinton's 1,222 (47%).

Pilar Lujan still continues a strong move for the chairmanship of the Democrat Party of Guam, with 44% of the vote. Joseph Cameron is a distant second.

http://www.kuam.com/news/27691.aspx

[woolldog]

167. that's so cool that "villages" are voting

[featherman]

172. If Obama takes Dededo, this will be over.

This is so cool... learning all about Guam

Dededo is the largest vilage on Guam - about 27% of the island's population

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Villages_of_Guam

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dededo%2C_Guam

[cottonseed]

170. Guam hands stunning rebuke to Clinton campaign!

This was her election to lose and she lost it! Her support is eroding amongst her most ardent supporters. Guamanians have taken the lead in shutting this thing down. It seems as if the SDs are also taking their cue from Guam's stunning victory for Obama and are now fully supporting this man's campaign.

Who would have thought Guam would be the deciding factor in all this? I guess that's for the historians to figure out.

[goclark]

180. Does this mean what I hope it means?

http://www.thegreenpapers.com/P08/GU-D.phtml

[Orsino]

192. Heh.

"Stunning rebuke"?

Well, I suppose a loss there could be interpreted as some sort of loss of momentum. Her quest for the string of promised victories resets. Or something.

[madrchsod]

175. it`s not over till all the votes are counted..hillary will win!

[WeDidIt]

179. Once Dededo reports, it'll probably be over

Dededo is the largest village, bigger than the other three villages that haven't reported combined.

[goclark]

181. What does this mean?

http://www.thegreenpapers.com/P08/GU-D.phtml

[RBInMaine]

182. It means "here's a rather crappy spreadsheet."

[Aloha Spirit]

183. That reflects the votes so far.

[Aloha Spirit]

184. Umatac in, now it's Obama: 1,420 to 1246

[RBInMaine]

185. His margin just seemed to widen a bit.

[goclark]

186. do you have a link?

[Hope And Change]

187. 5:40 a.m. -- After 18 districts counted, Obama has 1,720 votes; Clinton at 1,509

5:40 a.m. -- After 18 districts counted, Obama has 1,720 votes; Clinton at 1,509

5:40 a.m. — After 18 districts have been counted, Sen. Barack Obama maintains about 54 percent of the vote, leading Sen. Hillary Clinton in the Democratic caucus. One of the largest districts, Dededo, still hasn’t been counted toward the total vote, however. The other two districts yet to be counted are Agat and Yona.

Obama got 37 votes in Ordot, 19 in Maina, 151 in Inarajan, 46 in Asan, 55 in Chalan Pago, 87 in Santa Rita, 102 in Mongmong-Toto-Maite, 28 in Hagåtña, 158 in Barrigada, 36 in Merizo, 49 in Piti, 131 in Sinajana, 108 in Agana Heights, 194 in Sinajana, 192 in Tamuning, 27 in Umatac, 76 in Talofofo and 224 in Yigo for a total of 1,496 votes.

Sen. Hillary Clinton took 18 votes in Ordot, 22 in Maina, 87 in Inarajan, 33 in Asan, 87 in Chalan Pago, 73 in Santa Rita, 81 in Mongmong-Toto-Maite, 29 votes in Hagåtña, 166 in Barrigada, 33 in Merizo, 51 in Piti, 89 in Sinajana, 105 in Agana Heights, 155 in Mangilao, 193 in Tamuning, 24 in Umatac, 52 in Talofofo and 211 in Yigo for a total of 1,298 votes.

In the race for chairman/vicechairman, the team of Pilar Lujan/Jaime Paulino has 1,299 votes in the 18 counted districts. Antonio Charfauros/Mary Ann Cabrera have 653 total votes and the team of Joseph Artero Cameron/Arlene P. Bordallo has 967 votes.

To view a photo gallery of today's event, go to http://www.guampdn.com/apps/pbcs.dll/gallery?Avis=M0&Dato=20080503&Kategori=NEWS01&Lopenr=503004&Ref=PH.

To watch a video on the Democratic caucus, go to http://www.guampdn.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080503/VIDEO/80503018/-1/FRONTPAGE.

http://www.guampdn.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080504/NEWS01/80504015

[RBInMaine]

188. Very cool ! Yes, every single place and every single voter DOES count !

[RBInMaine]

189. A PLUS of this long contest is so many people getting a chance to matter, and organization-building.

[RBInMaine]

190. He has widened again.

[goclark]

191. Please let all the votes count nt

[KAZ]

193. Clinton must win Dededo by 204 votes to overtake Obama.

1951 - 1748
http://www.guampdn.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080504/NEWS01/80504017

[Hope And Change]

194. 6:30 a.m. -- Clinton must win Dededo by 204 votes to overtake Obama

6:30 a.m. -- Clinton must win Dededo by 204 votes to overtake Obama


:30 a.m. — With only Dededo left to count, Sen. Barack Obama leads Sen. Hillary Clinton in the Democratic caucus. Clinton will need to win Dededo by 204 votes to overtake Obama. Dededo is Guam’s most populous village.

Obama got 37 votes in Ordot, 19 in Maina, 151 in Inarajan, 46 in Asan, 55 in Chalan Pago, 87 in Santa Rita, 102 in Mongmong-Toto-Maite, 28 in Hagåtña, 158 in Barrigada, 36 in Merizo, 49 in Piti, 131 in Sinajana, 108 in Agana Heights, 194 in Sinajana, 192 in Tamuning, 27 in Umatac, 76 in Talofofo, 224 in Yigo, 104 in Yona and 127 in Agat for a total of 1,951 votes.

Sen. Hillary Clinton took 18 votes in Ordot, 22 in Maina, 87 in Inarajan, 33 in Asan, 87 in Chalan Pago, 73 in Santa Rita, 81 in Mongmong-Toto-Maite, 29 votes in Hagåtña, 166 in Barrigada, 33 in Merizo, 51 in Piti, 89 in Sinajana, 105 in Agana Heights, 155 in Mangilao, 193 in Tamuning, 24 in Umatac, 52 in Talofofo, 211 in Yigo, 98 in Yona and 141 in Agat for a total of 1,748 votes.

In the race for chairman/vicechairman, the team of Pilar Lujan/Jaime Paulino has a commanding lead with 1,666 votes in the 18 counted districts. Antonio Charfauros/Mary Ann Cabrera have 915 total votes and the team of Joseph Artero Cameron/Arlene P. Bordallo has 1,256 votes.

To view a photo gallery of today's event, go to http://www.guampdn.com/apps/pbcs.dll/gallery?Avis=M0&Dato=20080503&Kategori=NEWS01&Lopenr=503004&Ref=PH.

To watch a video on the Democratic caucus, go to http://www.guampdn.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080503/VIDEO/80503018/-1/FRONTPAGE.

http://www.guampdn.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080504/NEWS01/80504017

[livetohike]

195. I wonder how long it will take for the Dededo vote count to

come in?

Good news for Obama though :hi:.

[goclark]

197. Was he solidly winning Dededo?

[rainbow4321]

199. Or if HRC will threaten to sue Dededo for releasing their results too quickly??

Like they threatened to do in TX with the caucus results...saying that hurrying the count would cause "half baked" results.

[KAZ]

196. If you think the press is bad here. I love this snippet from the KUAM site.

"Senator Hillary Clinton decidedly took Agat, and Barack Obama just barely won Yona" Agat? Clinton 52.6%. Yona? Obama 51.4% So now we know. The difference between "decidedly" and "just barely" is officially 1.2%

http://www.kuam.com/

[TheDoorbellRang]

198. "decidely" = 13 votes and "barely" = 6 votes

See what a rout that extra 7 votes made? :spray:

[4_Legs_Good]

218. So was his SEVEN vote victory a blow out or not???

It's > 6 but < 13!!

David

[TheDoorbellRang]

227. Well, I believe one rounds 7 up to 10, so it's a double digit win

So definitely a HUGH blowout! :rofl:

[caseycoon]

201. I'm loving this thread!

Even though it's driving me crazy waiting...
:popcorn:

[helderheid]

202. same!!

[Muttocracy]

204. this was a fun read - I was good and didn't skip ahead.

It remind me of some town board elections here in NY - where the vote ends up 299 to 305 or something.

[grantcart]

203. Just got in and read through this thread what a surrealistic experience all of the

detailed talk about places no one outside of the islands has ever heard of.

am I reading it correctly that McCain got nine votes lol

[grantcart]

205. 100% in Obama 53 Clinton 47 and the delegates split 2-2 is that correct?

http://www.kuam-media.com/news/demcaucus/results.htm

[Hope And Change]

206. Dededo hasn`t been counted yet.

[caseycoon]

212. OOPS

I started celebrating too soon.
Back to the popcorn... :popcorn:
LOL!

[goclark]

207. What happened to Dededo?

[caseycoon]

210. WOOO HOOOO!

Thanks grantcart!
That's what I wanted to hear!
:toast: :party:

[quantass]

208. Humph..i always thought GUAM was some war-torn tropical country.

[Hope And Change]

209. Showdown in Dededo

Showdown in Dededo

Posted: 04:00 PM ET


(CNN) – The outcome of the Guam Democratic presidential caucuses will come down to the votes of one village, Dededo, the territory's largest voting precinct.

With 20 of 21 precincts reporting, Barack Obama leads the contest with 1,951 votes (52.7 percent), compared to 1,748 votes (47.2 percent) for Hillary Clinton.

Roughly 1,400 votes remain to be tallied in Dededo, about 27 percent of all votes cast in this party-run primary.

At stake are Guam's four pledged delegate votes, which will be allocated to the candidates in proportion to the percentage of the vote won once all the votes are counted.

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/05/03/showdown-in-dededo/

[Muttocracy]

211. where's the nail-biting smiley when you need it!

:popcorn:

[caseycoon]

213. I've resorted to biting my own...

No telling where that smiley is...
:rofl:

[goclark]

214. K for Dededo

A place I've never learned about before.

I love this thread because it has given me a geography lesson today.

[goclark]

215. Obama Won Everybody!

OGUAMA! :bounce:

[npincus]

216. Yippee!!!!

Hi, goclark! :hi:

great news! it's amazing how long it took to count a couple of thousand votes!

[goclark]

225. inpincus this is great news! nt

[Aloha Spirit]

220. Finally! congratulations, Guam!

:party:

[madrchsod]

217. hillary won! she overcame great odds and she won

a large percentage of the islands voters....big mo is giving her a large percentage of the votes from now on to the nomination! yes great day for hillary!!!



but obama got a bigger percentage.......rock on to the whitehouse barack!


:bounce: :woohoo: :applause: :woohoo: :applause: :woohoo: :applause: :woohoo::bounce:

[Austinitis]

219. HILLARY TIES OBAMA IN ELECTORAL UPSET!!!

She captured as many delegates as Obama which, in Obama-bot logic, means that she tied.

Go Hillary!!!!

[Aloha Spirit]

221. Final count is Obama by 7 votes! : 2,264 to 2,257

Obama never trailed from the first vote count on.
Obama won 14 of 21 districts. Most districts that were won by Clinton were by small margins.

Obama got 37 votes in Ordot, 19 in Maina, 151 in Inarajan, 46 in Asan, 55 in Chalan Pago, 87 in Santa Rita, 102 in Mongmong-Toto-Maite, 28 in Hagåtña, 158 in Barrigada, 36 in Merizo, 49 in Piti, 131 in Sinajana, 108 in Agana Heights, 194 in Mangilao 192 in Tamuning, 27 in Umatac, 76 in Talofofo, 224 in Yigo, 104 in Yona, 127 in Agat and 313 in Dededo for a total of 2,264 votes.

Sen. Hillary Clinton took 18 votes in Ordot, 22 in Maina, 87 in Inarajan, 33 in Asan, 87 in Chalan Pago, 73 in Santa Rita, 81 in Mongmong-Toto-Maite, 29 votes in Hagåtña, 166 in Barrigada, 33 in Merizo, 51 in Piti, 89 in Sinajana, 105 in Agana Heights, 155 in Mangilao, 193 in Tamuning, 24 in Umatac, 52 in Talofofo, 211 in Yigo, 98 in Yona, 141 in Agat and 509 in Dededo for a total of 2,257 votes.

In the race for chairman/vice chairman, the team of Pilar Lujan/Jaime Paulino won the positions with 416 votes. Joseph Artero Cameron and Arlene P. Bordallo tallied 317 votes, while the team of Antonio Charfauros and Mary Ann Cabrera finished with 142 total votes.

[caseycoon]

222. It's a real sqeaker but....

:party: :toast:
:woohoo:

[MattP]

223. I'm confused

What kind of caucus is that anyway?

[Aloha Spirit]

224. not a true caucus, I'm pretty sure the ballots were private.