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grassfed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 10:27 PM
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Hillary McCain - Votes you can xerox

Hillary
NO on Amendment No. 4882 that would have banned the use of cluster bombs in civilian areas.
YES on Bankruptcy bill S.256 stripping protections for people in debt.
YES on Kyle/Lieberman bill that sets the stage for the US to take military action against Iran - like the IWR ("fool me once...").
YES on the Iraq War Resolution.
Hillary refused to sign the AFC Anti-Torture Pledge.
YES on Patriot Act authorizing jail without trial for Americans accused of "eco" and "animal rights" terrorism.

McCain
NO on Amendment No. 4882 that would have banned the use of cluster bombs in civilian areas.
YES on Bankruptcy bill S.256 stripping protections for people in debt.
YES on Kyle/Lieberman bill that sets the stage for the US to take military action against Iran.
YES on the Iraq War Resolution.
McCain refused to sign the AFC Anti-Torture Pledge.
Yes on Patriot Act.

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Obama
YES on Amendment No. 4882 that would have banned the use of cluster bombs in civilian areas.
NO on Bankruptcy bill S.256 which stripped protections for people in debt.
In response to the Kyle/Lieberman bill that sets the stage for the US to take military action against Iran Obama drafted legislation stating that Congress did not grant President Bush the authority to attack Iran, either through the Kyl-Lieberman amendment or any resolution previously adopted.
Not then in the Senate but took a public stand against the Iraq War Resolution in an election year.
OBAMA signed the AFC Anti-Torture Pledge.
Obama re Patriot Act:: http://blog.wired.com/27bstroke6/2008/01/clinton-slams-o.html

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dailykoff Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 10:29 PM
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1. Very telling.
Looks like we have two fine pukes and one Dem still running.
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depakid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 10:33 PM
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2. Hillary didn't vote for the bankruptcy bill
Nor did she vote for Bush's crazy energy bill- or for protecting abusive corporations from class actions- or against limiting credit card interest rates.

Obama, on the other hand- did.

So get your facts straight.
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grassfed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 10:33 PM
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3. bs
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depakid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 10:38 PM
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4. Sorry pal, you're wrong
Edited on Fri May-02-08 10:38 PM by depakid
Her only vote was for a version of the bill in 2001 that included a poison pill provision that assured that the Republicans wouldn't pass it.

Like I said, get your facts straight
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grassfed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-03-08 11:12 AM
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13. hill arry hill arry hill arry
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RaleighNCDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 11:21 PM
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9. Obama voted against limiting credit card interest at 30% because
it was TOO HIGH - he wanted a 22% top limit. A senate-approved 30% cap would lock that amount in and make it near to impossible to improve on it, so he voted against it.
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grassfed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-03-08 11:40 AM
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14. BANKRUPTCY BILL facts for mewling hillary zombies
Bankruptcy Bill (S. 256 As Amended)
Obama No
Clinton Not Voting
http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/roll_call_vote_cfm.cfm?congress=109&session=1&vote=00044#name

Bankruptcy Bill (S.420, As Amended )
Clinton Yea
Obama not in Senate
http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/roll_call_vote_cfm.cfm?congress=107&session=1&vote=00036

It is telling that you zeroed in on the Bankruptcy Bill rather than address the Iraq War Resolution and illegal invasion of Iraq, a universally acknowledged crime against humanity by any standard, the Kyle Lieberman Bill which desperately pines for more innocent blood, the Patriot Act and the Torture Pledge. Democrats are Democrats precisely because of these issues. We don't reward killing and torturing, esp when asserted merely to appear tough.


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onehandle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 10:44 PM
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5. Hillary and Obama. Barely different.
John Edwards, more liberal than either of them, yet also barely different

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dailykoff Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 10:49 PM
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7. Don't get fooled by fancy graphics.
That's just a cartoon and I seriously doubt that it reflects anything more scientific than the perceptions of the person who drew it.
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Harry Monroe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-03-08 12:02 AM
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12. Actually I believe it was derived from this site
http://www.politicalcompass.org/

Take the political compass quiz and find out where you fall. It is pretty fascinating. My final score: Economic Left/Right -6.50
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian -5.44

In the Libertarian Left quadrant.
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barack the house Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 10:49 PM
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6. Always put clustter bombs ( the landmine bomb) Opposed by lady Di unbecoming of 1st lady.
Edited on Fri May-02-08 10:49 PM by barack the house
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nebula Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 11:04 PM
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8. They're all Pukes in way or another
Obama voted for Bush energy bill, voted each time to fund the war.

Obama's Yes votes to continue funding the war every year is inconsistent with his anti-war rhetoric.

I don't like any of the candidates, to be honest, but I think Obama is the least objectionable so I vote for him!
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FlyingSquirrel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 11:29 PM
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10. Excellent, thanks
:thumbsup:
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Triana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 11:34 PM
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11. Hillary McCain - Perfect - ha. Very fitting. n/t
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