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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-03-08 07:02 PM
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Poll question: Seriously, who do you think will win ?
You don't have to say who you voted for. It can remain an anonymous poll.
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democrattotheend Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-03-08 07:04 PM
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1. I honestly have no idea
But as much as I hate to say it, right now my gut says John McCain. I don't see any end in sight to the Democratic nomination process, and if Obama can't turn things around it's going to put the SD's in an awfully tough position.
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DJ13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-03-08 07:13 PM
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6. ...right now my gut says John McCain
Im not worried about Obama losing to McCain.

I believe Axlerod made a decision at the start of this campaign not to attack Clinton directly to avoid creating a sympathy reflex (as happened to Lazio in NY), or anger the womens vote they will need in the GE.

However, against McCain theres no need for restraint outside of not attacking his patriotism (POW).

Everything else is fair game.
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democrattotheend Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-03-08 07:20 PM
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13. I think you are right about the Lazio thing
And as politically incorrect as this sounds, I think Obama has to be extra careful about that for obvious reasons. I think that's why he was not more aggressive in the last debate. Jesse Jackson Jr. was attacked for saying this, but I think he's dead on that the image of a black man "attacking" a white woman would produce a backlash.
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quantass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-03-08 07:17 PM
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7. Teflon Obama -- his poll #s will continue to rise again...My bet is still on Obama
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-03-08 07:21 PM
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14. It must've been at least a year ago I predicted the Dems would find a way to lose.
Edited on Sat May-03-08 07:23 PM by TahitiNut
After the total and utter abomination of the Cheney/Bush regime, the Democrats had the greatest 'lock' on the Residential election since 1932 (or maybe 1964). They've had a 15-point generic advantage for more than two years. The ONLY way they could lose is to fuck it up and blow it. The MI/FL FUBAR was one of the biggest "hints" ... an all-out, take-no-prisoners struggle inside the party for control. Between the DLC/BlueDog 'centrists' and the 'leftists' (a once-admired label now used as an epithet, even by "Democrats"). The scorched-earth campaign by the Clinton DLC/Corporate 'centrists' is the culmination of a 'Protection Racket' being run for decades.

The 'Protection Racket'?? It's the 1/3 'centrist'/corporatists who threaten to vote GOP against the 2/3 New Dealers and 'leftists' who can merely threaten to NOT vote. Every threat to vote GOP is DOUBLE the threat to not vote (or vote Green). The party has moved so far to the right that the 'Protection Racket' has to be compounded by rampant vitriol and HYPOCRITICAL attacks on those with bruised noses that "no vote is the same as a GOP vote.' That's a UTTER FALSEHOOD - propaganda catapulted by those for whom the threat to vote GOP isn't quite enough anymore since BOTH parties have become Corporatist - good cop vs. bad cop.

Answer me this: If Clinton's "Third Way" were such a 'Good Idea' then why is there no corresponding 'let's all just get along' in the Republican Party?? Why is it about moving FURTHER right even after THREE DECADES of lurching to the right???

And the DAMNED FOOL blind partisans just keep chowing down on the dog turds delivered in Baby Ruth wrappers. (But, they whine, I don't want to be a "purist"!!)

Stupid. Fucking stupid.




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jeff30997 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-03-08 07:08 PM
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2. Other:
Diamond Joe Quimby.

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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-03-08 07:09 PM
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3. But does he have any experience ?
:-)
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jeff30997 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-03-08 07:18 PM
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9. Lol!
Yep.He was a crook all his life.:)
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-03-08 07:11 PM
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4. Senator Obama.
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Blondiegrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-03-08 07:13 PM
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5. Honestly? McCain ... regardless of which Democratic candidate he faces.
Edited on Sat May-03-08 07:13 PM by Blondiegrrl
Never underestimate the stupidity of the American people. They don't learn from their mistakes.

There might still be time to salvage this mess, but if the Democratic nomination process drags on until August (or, God forbid, beyond), we're screwed.
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Raine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-03-08 07:17 PM
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8. Sadly I think so too
I think that no matter which Democratic candidate gets the nomination McCain will win. Once again it seems that the Democratic Party is pulling defeat out of the jaws of victory by self-destructing. :-(
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jeff30997 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-03-08 07:20 PM
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12. Mierda!
I think you're both right.:cry:
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featherman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-03-08 07:30 PM
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23. Nah... McCain is a terrible candidate and worse campaigner
The voting public has never in American history returned a party to the White House with such disastrous disapproval record in time of recession and everything else. John McCain is hardly the "transformative" personality to overcome the laundry list of GOP negatives. He will not do well.
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newmajority Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-03-08 07:18 PM
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10. President Barack Hussein Obama
Has a nice ring to it, doesn't it?

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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-03-08 07:19 PM
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11. President Barack Obama
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jeff30997 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-03-08 07:21 PM
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16. Presidack Barent Obama
:P
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-03-08 07:26 PM
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18. Those two kids are concentrated cuteness ... hug magnets.
It's enough to make a person want to be a parent ... or maybe just a baby-sitter. :silly:

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virtualobserver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-03-08 07:21 PM
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15. I'm surprised that Bob Barr hasn't endorsed Hillary
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pleah Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-03-08 07:25 PM
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17. All bets are off,
with dishonest poll workers, rigged voting machines, and other factors who is to say?



-:shrug:
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Tresalisa Donating Member (537 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-03-08 07:26 PM
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19. Obama. Seriously. eom
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Raejeanowl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-03-08 07:29 PM
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20. I Didn't Vote In Your Poll, But Here's My Op
I support Clinton. I believe Obama has won and will carry the Dem primary, because short of incapacitation or an Obama scandal the likes of which we've not yet seen, the SDs aren't going to hand it to my lady and risk chaos and revolution.

I also believe McCain will still take the GE regardless of our nominee.

That is my totally depressing prognostication. And no, I don't blame Hillary, or Barack, individually. But somebody at higher levels in the Party needed to broker this deal a long time ago, if you know what I mean.
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ZombieHorde Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-03-08 07:30 PM
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21. Kucincich has this election in the bag!!!
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Tierra_y_Libertad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-03-08 07:30 PM
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22. Obama. But, even Hillary (ugh) would probably beat McLooney.
All either have to do is run as "not a Republican".
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Hutzpa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-03-08 07:31 PM
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24. Hey! your derby already stir up shit and now
Edited on Sat May-03-08 07:34 PM by spokane
more polling....

Kenturky Derby, its your fault..........

:rofl:
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HuffleClaw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-03-08 08:01 PM
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25. the way things are going mccain will be the next president
unless the democrats can somehow extract themselves from this media-created quagmire of 'hillary vs. obama' that they so easily allowed themselves to be dropped into. personally, i'm in favour of a 'gore-obama' ticket with hillary bought off with a supreme court post, but i think what we'll end up with is a 'hillary-obama' ticket. which will lose.
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invictus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-03-08 08:13 PM
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26. I am looking forward to two terms of President Barack Obama. n/t
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-03-08 08:35 PM
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27. my dog sasha could beat john ..well she could bite him
Edited on Sat May-03-08 08:36 PM by madrchsod
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