** OBAMA SHOCKS CLINTON IN GUAM **

[thevoiceofreason]

The Clinton campaign suffered a memorable loss today as she was unable to seal the deal in a "safe" spot for her, the territory of Guam. Far from the shoo-in expected for Clinton (with most pollsters and pundits predicting a 3-1 minimum Clinton win, Barack Obama showed once again why and how superior field organization prevails. For the results, go to:

www.demconwatch.com

Go to the Guam section on the upper left.

[OnceUponTimeOnTheNet]

1. K&R. nt

[jefferson_dem]

2. Broken link.

Try this one -- http://demconwatch.blogspot.com/

[sniffa]

12. And an even more direct link

http://demconwatch.blogspot.com/2008/05/guam-primary-results-and-la-01la-06.html

[quantass]

3. Interesting

[NJSecularist]

4. Obama shocks Clinton in Guam??

:spray: :spray: :spray:

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

Obama was favored all along.

[FARAFIELD]

8. Well considering he will net 3 id say thats a shock

OH also considering her and the big dog promised them stathood and a PONY. laugh if you will but AGAIN, Hill was outmanuevered in a caucus, the Party chair and vice chair were also on the ballot and the Hill team got beat, and two of the other three supers are for OBAMA so thats NET three. Anyhoo, considering she WON texas and didnt even win more delegates Id say a shock.

[grantcart]

16. Hillary has long been expected to take Guam

Hillary, as of today, is expected to win West Virginia, Kentucky, Guam and Puerto Rico.
http://cbslocalblogs.prospero.com/n/blogs/blog.aspx?webtag=kyw_backroom&entry=3

Do you ever have a credible source?

[cyndensco]

24. Thanks for the link, grant

I started today thinking Guam was expected to go to hillary, but could not find the link.

[0007]

31. Go Barack go

[Beacool]

30. Exactly!!!

It was a caucus, he has won them all except for NV.

What shock???? The shock is that it was so close.

These people are too funny.

:rofl:

[dbmk]

40. It was run as a primary. Secret ballot and everything.

Nice try.

[Zhade]

35. Wow, what a bald-faced lie!

You emulate clinton well!

[grantcart]

5. do you have any idea how the LA special elections are going?

[OHdem10]

6. Obama 50% Clinton 50% Obama won by 9 votes.

Check information on CNN election information at bottom of screen.

Cnn reported reported earlier today that Obama was favored in Guam.

[thoughtcrime1984]

13. CNN reports a lot of things to put Obama in a negative light.

The MSM is an utter joke. They'd trick folks into thinking an apple was an orange if they thought they could.

[cyndensco]

26. For about 15 mins. today - at about 5pm ct - during This Week in Politics

CNN had replaced the 95% reported Guam results with the PA results - hrc with 55%. Talking about misreporting...

[Freida5]

7. The Obama team expected to win big. They didn't. It is all about Wright.

[PBS Poll-435]

9. I hope they recount though, because something doesn't look Wright.

:hide:

[anigbrowl]

10. You guys keep saying this, but none of you provide a source

I have never once heard anyone on the Obama campaign saying they thought Guam was in the bag. Got a link?

[JackORoses]

14. They are full of shit

Pundits have considered Guam a shoe-in for Hillary for months.

Hillarites don't deal well with loss.

[cyndensco]

27. that is what I always heard - hillary has Guam

[LVjinx]

28. You may be thinking of Puerto Rico, for some reason.

[cyndensco]

34. Naw. Guam.

[Lerkfish]

11. and this makes you very proud of yourself that a nasty smear campaign worked, right?

the lowest, vilest sort of negative campaigner slime by association bullshit "all black men should be tarred with the same brush" gutter republican-style political backstabbing chicanery...

it just warms your heart and makes you proud of your goddess of peace, right?

:puke:

[Freida5]

Obama smeared himself. The media finally woke up.

[jpak]

19. What smear was that??

Did he say "GD Amerika" again...

stupid

[Zhade]

36. Keep dreaming, Obama will be the nominee when you wake up.

NT!

[Lerkfish]

37. oh really? in what way, exactly, did he "smear himself"?

quote chapter and verse.

[grantcart]

17. You guys just make it up as you go don't you

Hillary, as of today, is expected to win West Virginia, Kentucky, Guam and Puerto Rico.

http://cbslocalblogs.prospero.com/n/blogs/blog.aspx?webtag=kyw_backroom&entry=3

[Thickasabrick]

18. Thanks for saying that - it's hard to keep up around here ; )

[MindMatter]

20. She lost guam. The race will be locked up before those other 3 vote.

[MonkeyFunk]

33. That's the best you can find?

a blog from a local news guy in Philly?

[WillieDee]

43. here's another source, sourpuss

"For the remaining territory in this race is potentially highly favourable to her. The next outing is in Guam on May 3 and there are only four delegates at stake but, for what it is worth, she is expected to win the most votes there. It is, however, but the smallest of starters between the next main course, the quest for votes in Indiana and North Carolina three days later."

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/us_and_americas/us_elections/article3801264.ece

[SwampG8r]

32. right

im sure the guamanians really hate wright
:crazy:

[bigwillq]

15. But they both

will likely split the four delegates. Sounds like a draw to me.

[quantass]

22. and another WIN for the columns! Another Contest in the bag!

[WonderGrunion]

39. Actually

There are 8 pledged delegates that get 1/2 a vote each. Not sure how they split up, but if the give a majority to the winner of the majority of votes, Obama would have 5 delegates (with 2 1/2 votes) to Clinton's 3 delegates (with 1 1/2 votes), netting 1 delegate for Obama.

[dbmk]

41. Nah, would have to break 56,25% to get a shift in delegates

More here:
http://journals.democraticunderground.com/dbmk/1

In even number delegate districts the winner is not guaranteeed a delegate win.

[StevieM]

21. Wow...the spin from Obama people is relentless. And relentlessly false (eom)

[anticat]

23. LOL Obama campaign expected to win by 11 points.

After rigging the election they won by 7 VOTES.
Recount will show Hillary won!

[LadyVT]

25. They are doing a recount. Election officials are searching for 4,000

missing ballots, and have to certify that 500 ballots marked "spoiled" and invalidated (not counted) in strong Obama districts were, in fact, spoiled.

Also, Obama was actually favored to win by 11 points in Guam. Not Clinton.

[dbmk]

42. Give us a source for that 11 points crap

In the obama campaign they had put themselves down for 11%. Thats several months ago. And based on no polling data.

Given the number of voters in Guam, the difference between 0,1% or 11% is 250 voters switching sides. Using the numbers from 2004 it would be closer to 80.
And noone had any idea what the situation was. If they did, they did not share it.

So just because the spreadsheet said 11 is no indication that they "expected" 11%. That would be idiotic given the information available on Guam.
All you can gather from that was that they expected a split in delegates and popular vote win. They got the important part right and popular vote part somewhat right.

But something tells me they wouldn't have been surprised by a totally different result. Pretty sure that line was filled out based on severe guestimation.

[ksoze]

29. He expected a 10% win - He's the shocked one

according to his leaked predictions

http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/0208/Obamas_projections.html

[Lerkfish]

38. ONLY a clinton delusionist calls a win for their opponent a loss.

[Evergreen Emerald]

44. When Clinton wins, Obama crowd cheers because it was 9.9% rather than 10% win.

When Obama "wins" by less than 1%, the Obama crowd cheers because a "win is a win."

I just shake my head in amazement. You guys have really lost it.

[dbmk]

45. Pull out a calculator

and figure out the difference between tie and +10 on Guam. And prediction in that spreadsheet on that primary has been 95% speculation.

Pretty sure they are loosing little sleep over guessing 250 votes wrong.