Truth is, the term 'Working Class White' is just another word for the 'Racially Expolitable'....

[truthpusher]

Why is there so much talk about how the 'White Working Middle Class' is responding to the 'Wright Controversy"? The Corporate run MSM and the Clinton Campaign (and some Clinton supporters) are taking advantage of this group by exploiting the fact that they can be influenced by negative racial steriotypes... this is the group that the 'Somali Turban' photo has been put out for, the group that the 'Osama Commercial' was made for and especially the group that the 'Wright Controversy' was manufactured for.

This style of politic, is straight out of the Rovian playbook...

I invite any Clinton supporter to give me a parallel from the Obama camp...

(a positive note here... the so-called 'Working Class Whites' can also be influenced by positive and hopeful ideas about a future that does not revolve around race.... and you know who I am talking about here :hi: )

[bigbrother05]

1. But, but, but they're not bitter

It's unfortunate, but they have been manipulated for years to vote against their own best interests with 'hot button' topics.

[ballsalicious]

2. kick

[OHdem10]

3. Truth is those working class whites consitute the largest segment

of voters by groups.

Truth is:. The Democratic Party cannot win any election without
at least over 40% of their vote.

Truth is they do not have a problem voting GOP when they perceive
the Democratic Party is dissing them. This used to be one ofthe most
loyal Group of Democrats. Therefore they are always willing to
be open to Democratic Party but not bound to it since they were
abandoned by the party in 70s.

Tfuth is Bill Clinton would never had won without this group coming
to the polls for him.

Truth is Kerry, Dukakis never carried a large enough percent of these
voters.

[ballsalicious]

5. 'tfuth' is - it is wrong to exploit others weeknesses.

[QC]

8. Yes, but they're so, like, yucky 'n stuff! n/t

[mrreowwr_kittty]

16. Truth is, Bill Clinton was helped greatly by Ross Perot siphoning off GOP votes.

Everyone, and I mean everyone, I knew who supported Perot was a white, blue collar male.

[hfojvt]

24. the way I remember it

Kerry won the votes of people under 25, was close to even in the 25-65 age groups and lost the over 65 vote. Those people aren't working class. They are retired class.

[shayes51]

34. You speak the truth.

[Hippo_Tron]

40. How exactly did we abandon them in the 1970's?

[EffieBlack]

4. There is no parallel because black voters are just lumped together as "black voters"

Without any regard for gender, economic or social differentials.

Notice how we are getting bombarded with polls broken down by race: "White/Black." Then we get more polls breaking down white voters into the tiniest categories: "White Men/White Women," "White Men earning over x dollars/White men earning under x dollars," "White rural voters/White urban voters," "White blue collar female/White professional female," etc.? Yet we see nothing along those lines for black voters - we're just "black."

Speaks volumes, doesn't it?

[BlooInBloo]

7. Everybody knows there's only one black voter. And he always votes the same way....

... Well at least when he's not smoking crack, playing basketball, eating watermelon, raping a white woman, or pimping the hos.

[EffieBlack]

15. yes - he always votes for the black people based on race, no matter what. Except for all those times

he votes for white people because they're the best candidate.

What a crazy guy!

[annie1]

22. 9/10 times a black person is voting for Bo. so, really, yeah....

maybe black women are slightly more likely to vote for Hil, but what 89% vs. 93?

[hokies4ever]

36. Clinton had the majority of the black vote just 5 months ago

but then her campaign went on a disrespect tour for the black voters. Clinton's negatives among blacks have gone up. Blacks aren't just choosing Obama just because he's black (another racist notion, by the way, implying that blacks only vote for skin color). Clinton has shown little to no respect for the black voter and that's why she polls in the single digits with them. Screw Geraldine Ferraro. Straight from the Fox News playbook

So many examples to choose from...ah, how about Bill Clinton in South Carolina? I'm a black man in my 20s and actually didn't know that Jesse Jackson had won the SC primary twice. Until Slick Willie was happy to educate me on that little fact. What should be a proud moment in black history will now have this little weasel's footnote on it. Thanks Bill! Don't do me anymore favors. Then Hillary went and apologized to a black newspaper group, but Bill is still defiant about it to this day. That's like a 16 year-old boy vandalizing a car and his mom coming out to apologize. Sorry, but it just rings hollow. She should have told Bill to go down to the black community and have a 'Come to Jesus' moment with them and he's sleeping on the couch until then. If you can't run your own house, how can you expect to run the White House?

[DemVet]

12. Another example of the "We're the victims!" schtick.

[ballsalicious]

14. ?

[hokies4ever]

37. 29 point BEATDOWN in Virginia

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

[Bill McBlueState]

38. Are you prepared to dispute the claim?

Or did you only have time to stick a derogatory label on it?

[David Zephyr]

18. Speaks volumes indeed.

:thumbsup:

[annie1]

21. b/c black voters all told are voting for him at 90%. white voters you can....

break down by different groups. white males are voting substantially differently than white females.

[EffieBlack]

25. 90% is not 100%, I'd like to see how different demographics within the black community are

voting. When a substantial majority of white voters vote a certain way (as they often do), I don't see pollsters backing off from digging deeper. 90% of white Republicans are voting for John McCain - the press still presents polls showing how various demographics of white Republicans are voting.

The bottom line is that many people - including the media and apparently, all-too-many DUers, see the black community as one big monolithic blob and, even worse, just aren't interested in knowing how we vote, think or approach issues beyond the grossly superficial "black voters are told are voting for him at 90%" while "white voters you can break down by different groups." You "can break down" white voters by different groups because you CHOOSE to break white voters down that way rather than just saying X percentage of white voters are voting for Hillary Clinton while X percentage of white voters are voting for Barack Obama."

Ralph Ellison was right. And he's STILL right.

[truthpusher]

28. you notice that Barack's not-so-white numbers only shot up recently?

could be that folks are starting to notice the Clinton camp is feeding off of those that can be manipulated toward racism.

[truthpusher]

27. How bout.... 'Working Middle Class White Men who can Dance'....

[cliffordu]

30. Yes, it does.

[BlooInBloo]

6. It's just one of the many ways white folks defend other white folks' being racist. It's cute.

We're SOOOO TRICKSY!!!

:rofl:

[Liberal Veteran]

10. It pisses me off that there is an implied "white" in "blue collar voters".

But nobody wants to acknowledge that.

[BlooInBloo]

11. It's like that all over American English. Black people aren't normal to white folks....

... In a nutshell, there are quarterbacks, and then there are black quarterbacks.

[mrreowwr_kittty]

17. Yeah, like only white people work.

Gee, that's a familiar meme, isn't it?

[L0oniX]

9. Huh? Where do you see white people working????

:sarcasm:

[flpoljunkie]

13. "First Bubba" making 6 stops today in rural NC--9 tomorrow. Attended church with Heath Shuler.

From NBC/NJ's Carrie Dann and NBC's Mark Murray

How hard is Bill Clinton working today?

The former president starts the day in the area around Asheville, NC, where he'll attend church with undecided superdelegate Rep. Health Shuler (D) before doing six campaign stops. That's (conservatively) 12 hours on the job, about six of which will be his own speaking -- his speech runs about 55 minutes nowadays.

His motorcade will travel about 200 miles today.

By the end of the day, his total tally of public appearances in North Carolina will be 43. By contrast, his wife has done 20. Obama clocks in at a paltry dozen.

Tomorrow's schedule makes today's look downright unimpressive -- a whopping nine events in the Tar Heel State. He'll fly for a few legs of the trip, but told, it's about 470 miles of travel.

http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2008/05/04/978906.aspx

[David Zephyr]

19. K&R.

Thanks for helping expose the coded language that we expect from Republicans, but not from Democrats.

K&R.

[annie1]

20. now *that* is elitist.

[flpoljunkie]

23. Do you mean "low information mullet heads" as described in redstate_democrats post?

[truthpusher]

29. no.... they have various hair-styles and are occasionally from blue states.

[Jed Dilligan]

26. I think the "working class" label is a cloak

that they use to make this racist tactic unassailable in progressive circle. It's actually racists across the socioeconomic spectrum that they are targeting.

[flpoljunkie]

31. Bill, dubbed the "Ambassador to rural America" has been working really hard on these voters

WHITEVILLE, N.C. -- "Just remember this, she got this far because of people like you. And if you show up and you vote for her, in big enough percentages and big enough numbers she'll go right on. …She's gonna end this thing roaring. And what are they gonna say if she wins the popular vote? 'I'm sorry we are gonna give it to the caucus states that are going Republican in November?.’ No. So all these people tell you she can't win and that are rushin' to get all the people to declare for it, to send it off, to cut you off, and stomp your voice, don't you believe them. You are still in the driver seat. "

http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2008/05/05/981866.aspx

[Auntie Bush]

32. I'm white working class (retired) and I'm not prejudice.

I take offense to your conclusion. Stop projecting your own prejudice on me and other white working class white people.

[Blondbostonian]

33. Many white working class people are

I've gone canvassing to a number of states for Obama. I have heard the "N" lover term a number of times in working class neighborhoods and nowhere else.

It's not good to sterotype a group but there's no question that high school educated white people making less than 50K are the core of racism in this country.

Denial is not a river.

[Auntie Bush]

39. I also know a lot ot upper class...and they can be prejudice too.

Not fair to any class to blame them...there is prejudice in all classes equally. Every class equally is much less prejudice than their parents.

[hokies4ever]

35. White, working class voter more important than black voter

is the way that I interpret it. That's why I along with many other blacks have a lower opinion of the Clintons now than before this primary season. On the other hand, I know she really doesn't mean a lot of what she says, and she's just saying it to get elected. Like when she dropped the 'Hamas' and 'Farrakhan' during that debate.