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LynneSin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-04-08 10:14 AM
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I'm a white person and personally I am not offended by what Rev Wright has said
Think about it.

For the last 400+ years and probably even more, my race has done all in its power to supress and abuse his race. The United States was built on the backs of enslaved African Americans for the benefit of White People (and btw, male white people so yeah I'm pissed too cause I'm a woman).

So if Rev Wright is a bit upset and rants about what this government has done well, I can't blame the guy one bit.
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REACTIVATED IN CT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-04-08 10:17 AM
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1. I agree, LynneSin
Its just too bad that Rev Wright chose this critical time in the Obama campaign to seek his 15 minutes of fame
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Johnny__Motown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-04-08 10:19 AM
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2. Same, I have a thicker skin than that. I guess some white people are more fragile
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LaurenG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-04-08 10:20 AM
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3. No me neither
Rev Wright can say what he wants, first because it's his right and secondly because I understand what he means when he talks about the way things go down.

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tabatha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-04-08 10:20 AM
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4. Agreed.
Somehow people who are abused are not supposed to get angry. Blame the victim.

But those who get upset about Wright, got super upset after 9/11 where they had to go into a country (Iraq) that had nothing to do with it. But if you dare criticize them for what they have done to the Iraqis then you are unpatriotic.

It is sick, bitter, twisted and extremely arrogant.
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madeline_con Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-04-08 10:20 AM
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5. I have a race question...
Why is Obama not referrred to as "mixed race"?


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LynneSin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-04-08 10:26 AM
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12. I have no clue
I mean, the appeal is he could be the first black president but really it's only halfway that we have the first black president. But hell if we can get it half done this time around then perhaps in a few years we can go all the way with 100% black (although in this country even 100% may be around 90%).
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madeline_con Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-04-08 10:31 AM
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19. "... get it half done ..."
:rofl:
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Lerkfish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-04-08 10:23 AM
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6. I was not offended one bit.
FWIW. a white male here.
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mdmc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-04-08 10:24 AM
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7. I live in a multi-cultural city
I was not shocked either...
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-04-08 10:25 AM
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8. I'm sitting in the same pew.
There is absolutely no legitimacy to either government or organized religion if social and economic justice isn't at the top of the agenda. Justice, not punishment, is the first and foremost ethical priority of any legitimate human endeavor.

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Bensthename Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-04-08 10:25 AM
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9. Same here. If anything it has made me like Obama more.
The way he has addressed this issue is more then enough, more then needed.. Wright issue has been blown way out or proportion.. Now if the words had came out of Obamas mouth I would see the reason for the 24/7 coverage of this. But they were not Obamas words. We know how Obama feels about this and his views.
The more they attack him on this the more I want to stay on his team...
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supernova Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-04-08 10:26 AM
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10. I'm not either. Totally understandable
what he says. People who historically are/have been oppressed have a right to their anger and a right to express it.

Honestly, my fellow white people really embarass me over situations like this. DId they really expect to always hear hearts and flowers?
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IndianaJones Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-04-08 10:26 AM
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11. it was pretty appalling from what I hear. nt.
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LynneSin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-04-08 10:29 AM
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16. You mean like what he said about 9/11
Well Falwell and Robertson can blame 9/11 on the liberals, abortionists, feminists and homosexuals and neither of those 2 were either removed from their position, removed from tax-free status or even shunned by the Bush Regime.

Why is it ok that we blame the 'abortionists' (ie pro-choice), pagans, feminists, gays & lesbians but not ok to blame our government?

The abortionists have got to bear some burden for this because God will not be mocked. And when we destroy 40 million little innocent babies, we make God mad. I really believe that the pagans, and the abortionists, and the feminists, and the gays and the lesbians who are actively trying to make that an alternative lifestyle, the ACLU, People for the American Way -- all of them who have tried to secularize America -- I point the finger in their face and say 'you helped this happen.'" --on the 9/11 attacks
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madeline_con Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-04-08 10:35 AM
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22. Which one of those dolts said that?
I believe the minute these yahoos start waxing political, their church needs to pay all back taxes from their establishment to the present day. Maybe that will shut them up, and get the back to the business of saving heathens! :eyes:
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IndianaJones Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-04-08 10:48 AM
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25. is that one that Obama found appalling? nt.
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Quixote1818 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-04-08 10:26 AM
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13. I think it just shows why we should elect someone like Obama
so we can heal some of those old wounds. If we reject Obama over this then we will have proved Rev. Wright right.
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Window Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-04-08 10:26 AM
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14. Not only that, but if anyone would dare read the book Rev. Wright mentioned
while on Bill Moyers show; The Mis-Education of the Negro, by Carter G. Woodson, written in 1933, but very revealing and apropos of what is still happening today, they would really understand where he is coming from.
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mystieus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-04-08 10:28 AM
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15. The media tells you when you are offended or not. Got it?!
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LynneSin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-04-08 10:30 AM
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17. Google my screen name and you can read what even USAToday said about me and the news
Seriously - it's still out there
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zanne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-04-08 10:30 AM
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18. I don't think any DU'er is genuinely upset about it...
It's just being used as fodder.
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LWolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-04-08 10:31 AM
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20. Neither am I, except for the part
where he campaigned against HRC and for Obama from the pulpit. I see that as an abuse of power.

Those aren't the statements that are causing the current controversy, though. I agree with him on most of those. More so than Obama, obviously.

Reverend Wright is not the one whose statements offend me. Obama's statements offend me. Deeply.

I have more respect for Wright than I do for Obama.
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90-percent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-04-08 10:32 AM
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21. Wright
I thought he was excellent on Moyer's, but then he carried on with his self aggrandizement agenda and I think that was counter to Rev. Wrights message and more importantly Obama's.

Why Wright would say new stuff to deliberately undermine Obama's campaign strikes me as perverse and serves people like the Republicans more than the oppressed peoples Wright wants to help.


-90% Jimmy
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bigbrother05 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-04-08 10:46 AM
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24. Deliberate or not, it provided separation for them both
Obama was able to make a clean break and Wright gets his 'edge' back. Platitudes won't sell a book.
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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-04-08 10:37 AM
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23. How does this help us if Obama has thrown him under the bus and pretty much considers him loony?
I don't get it?

I must be missing something here.

Don
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aikoaiko Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-04-08 10:50 AM
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26. because he is a little wackadoo,
Edited on Sun May-04-08 10:51 AM by aikoaiko


I'm not offended either, but I still don't want Obama associated with him.
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Seabiscuit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-04-08 10:52 AM
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27. Wright's comments aren't so much offensive as downright stupid. I'm a green person.
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ikojo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-04-08 11:04 AM
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28. Rev Wright was also correct when he said that the US
cannot go around the world committing acts of terrorism (is not war terrorism writ large?) and not expect those actions to blowback. The US armed and trained the mujahadeen led by Osama bin Laden in the 1980s, when the Russians were in Afghanistan. Now ObL took that training and his dislike of the US and is using against our country.

When we hear stories of lawns in East St Louis being fertilized with a pesticide containing human waste (http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5gbpCMPX9_kRtYkL1Yv9-OzuVxFfQD9018VJG0), how outside the realm of possibility is to think that AIDS is a conspiracy on the part of our government (the same entity that took part in the Tuskeegee experiments)? After all it was only after many demonstrations and when AIDS hit the white heterosexual community that funding and interest came about.

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