CBS Poll: Obama Surges to 11 Point Lead over McCain, 12 points over Hillary

[MadBadger]

No better time to come back to DU then this, with a new National poll from CBS news,

Obama 50(+4), Clinton 38(unchanged).

In terms of Obama's handling of the Wright situation, 60% of voters Approve, while 68% of dems do.

52% of voters say Obama's comments on Wright were about right, while half that say its not critical enough

Obama's approval rating jumped since April 30th, back to 44-30, up from 39-34.

Obama 51(+6), McCain 40(-5)

Clinton 53(+5), McCain 41(-2)

Clinton's favorables jumped to 42-37 from 36-42.

McCain's fell from 33-34 to 32-35.

49% of voters think its a bad idea to lift the gas tax and 70 percent think candidates are doing it for politics rather than to help Americans.

http://www.cbsnews.com/htdocs/pdf/MAY08A-Politics.pdf

[adoraz]

1. OBAMA HAS THE BIG MO!

[Tropics_Dude83]

6. Those are awesome numbers for Obama

If he can continue to show those kinds of numbers, I'll be less concerned he's a disaster for the fall.

[grantcart]

16. 75% say that it had no impact on their opinion of Obama

and in time these numbers will grow

[sudopod]

76. No one wants to be known

as that tard who believes everything they hear.

[Phx_Dem]

47. Respectfully,

how can you be concerned that he'd be a disaster when he's successfully weathered the barrage of crap that has been thrown at him non-stop for the past few weeks. I imagine the Clinton's must have a very agressive oppo research team, and if they haven't been able to dig up anything on him that will stick, then the Republican's won't do any better. They'll simply throw out the same ole crap that he's been dealing with for months now -- patriotism, muslim name, scary black man, Wright, Ayers, Rezko. Only this time it will be old news - and it will have even less an impact.

He has shown that he can weather the storm without going negative (because he was up against a fellow Democrat). But when the Republicans attack, he'll be able to respond much more aggressively because he won't be fighting another Democrat. Plus he'll have a VP candidate who can throw some hard balls (I hope).

I think he's done a great job in proving he can beat the "distractions" without getting into the gutter.

Food for thought.

[SwampG8r]

89. amen

this is what i tell everyone who brings it up
if he had a deal breaker in his history we would have had it leaked by the clinton camp on the day after super tuesday

[ericgtr]

73. Thanks for hanging in there it's nice to see a positive Hillary supporter

:)

[scheming daemons]

97. Tropics changes back and forth between supporting Obama or Clinton almost weekly....

[caledesi]

17. Fired up! Ready to go! nt

[adoraz]

36. hey, I like that.

OBAMA HAS THE BIG MO! FIRED UP! READY TO GO!

[my3boyz]

2. Tell Hillary to send this in a memo to the Super Delegates. LOL nt

[WA98296]

3. GoBama!

[tabatha]

4. Great news thanks.

Maybe the Wright righteous will find something else to beat to death.

[Eurobabe]

5. Seeing LOTS of Obama signs here in PA

Southeast part of the state. :)

So far I've seen ONE McInsane sign and a few for Hillary. The rest Obama.

People are so anxious to get DimSon out and vote for change.

[mikiturner]

7. BOOM

The tax-holiday panderfest is a big...

[DerekJ]

8. He's tanking.

:sarcasm:

[Palatino]

12. Yes, he's tanking everywhere except for this one poll

Care to show all the polls? (Gallup and Rasmussen)

[DerekJ]

23. Opppsssss .. I feel sorry for you ..

Today's Gallup:




Rasmussen daily graph for 5/4/08 - Obama up 1 (45), Clinton down 2 (45):

[MadBadger]

26. Rasmussen has him closing in, and Gallup has him taking back the lead today against Hillary

What you talkin about Willis?

[greenlanternman]

But in the GE, Obama's bounce is just 1% in Gallup

And certainly not the 11% bounce in Rasmussen either against McCain.

[casus belli]

31. Wrong, sorry.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/polls/

Realclearpolitics.com collects all the data from the major polling companies, and I don't see any indication anywhere of Obama "tanking". Also, you have to consider that all of the hard blows endured in recent weeks have been Obama's to bear so the fact that he is still maintaining a lead after the pummeling he has endured speaks volumes. I don't think Hillary will be able to withstand any bad news and remain relevant.

[Adelante]

41. Palatino is dead to us

[DerekJ]

51. Go Mods :)

[Adelante]

80. The mods are so fast lately

My Ignore list doesn't stand a chance. :)

[MadBadger]

64. He has reincarnated to greenlanternman.

[my3boyz]

56. Yes..do show Gallup! He is leading by 4. nt

[greenlanternman]

68. Not the case in the GE

Where the insignificant 1% bounce against McCain is nowhere near the 11% cited in the outlier.

[my3boyz]

82. HELLO!..The trend is going in the same direction! It wasn't -1 in that poll was it? Goodness...nt

[slinkerwink]

9. great news!

[Palatino]

10. What an outlier: Today's Gallup and Rasmussen have McCain up by 5% and 3%

Only CBS has shown this weird surge for Obama.

[MadBadger]

13. Maybe the tracking polls are oultiers?

[FrenchieCat]

15. And so you joined to announce this to us?

Thanks!

[Palatino]

18. That makes no sense whatsoever

I joined before this thread started, intelligent person.

[Kahuna]

11. Yeeeaaaaaarggggggggh! That's some serious teflon he's wearing!!!

:applause:

[Palatino]

14. The teflon doesn't show in Gallup or Rasmusssen

Where he loses to McCain.

[Kahuna]

28. It will. It always does. Face it. Obama has done a fabulous job of

quickly addressing the Rev. Wright problem. That with his exceptional MTP appearance will guarantee that the momentum will shift his way. The SDs are watching these polls. It's THEIR votes that count now.

[greenlanternman]

49. what do you mean "these polls"?

You talk as if there is more than one poll. "Polls" is plural.

[Kahuna]

83. Think about it for a while or get one of your little friends to explain it to you. nt

Sheesh. :eyes:

[TheDonkey]

33. Hello there, who is behind the curtain?

[jenmito]

39. Whoever s/he was, s/he is no more.

:bounce:

[TheDonkey]

75. LOL

how shocking. ;)

[jenmito]

77. Yup. I'm now in mourning.

:D

[goldcanyonaz]

19. Clinton kicks McCains ass! Edith Bunker is waking up!

[MadBadger]

Good numbers for ALL democrats, wouldnt you say?

[Kahuna]

37. Too bad she won't be the one to face him in the GE. But..

I do understand why she is fighting so hard. She KNOWS that even she could beat him and can't stand that she's not likely to get the chance.

[cyndensco]

20. Go Obama!!!

[jenmito]

21. K&R! What a great thread to see when looking at this board!

GREAT news and PERFECT timing!

[FrenchieCat]

24. Agreed......

For a minute there, I thought Rev. Wright was running against Bill Clinton, and I was living in

[jenmito]

30. Same here...Now it's back to

Barack Obama vs. Bill Clinton (and Hillary Clinton). And he's STILL winning! :hi:

[bhikkhu]

22. That's great all the way around!

Obama up, Clinton unchanged, McCain down. Its hard to get too excited about poll fluctuations, but this is a good one.

[phrigndumass]

25. K/R, thanks for posting this, hnmnf

:headbang:

[Forkboy]

27. McCain is so toast, no matter who we pick.

His numbers fall even when no one is really even going after him. :)

[Kahuna]

29. I agree. Even *I* could beat McCain at this point.

:silly:

[Forkboy]

43. Hell, I'd vote for you over any of them.

:D

[Kahuna]

48. Thanks Forkboy. And I'd vote for YOU over any of them..

;)

[SwampG8r]

93. a super duper duper delegate endorsment

in the race between forkboy and kahuna i am endorsing both at this time
if i am tendered a sweet spot in either the forkboy OR the kahuna administrations i will endorse THAT candidate later and renounce any and all allegiances to the one NOT offering at least a cabinet position
and so both candidates know the value of my SDDD endorsement i remind each that as sole SDDD my vote is equal to 1,000,000 delegates times infinity

[Forkboy]

101. Heh...I'm sure I can find you a spot.

However, I've already promised Secretary of Defense to Godzilla...and I ain't going back on that or I get stomped on. :scared:

[my3boyz]

66. I know! What the hell is up with that? No one is even attacking him YET. Soon gramps..

very soon.

[Zhade]

91. Yep, it's pretty sweet.

NT!

[me b zola]

32. K&R!

:bounce:

[TeamJordan23]

34. Will Morning Joe or anyone in the MSM cover this tomorrow? My guess: NO. nm

[Kahuna]

40. No. They will use the Gallup poll that shows even though Obama has

overcome Hillary, he's five points behind McCain. Then he will look like a jerk...AGAIN...when by the end of the week Gallup has Obama back over McCain.

[greenlanternman]

54. Do you predict Obama to go up by 11% over McCain in Gallup?

I predict he doesn't even catch up. Wanna bet?

[greenlanternman]

58. By the way, the NY Times has been caught lying about McCain

the cheating and all that, and its news section and opinion section are full of anti-McCain content. Which is a good thing, but its polls will be believed to have been the result of bias.

[Tarheel_Dem]

106. R.I.P. greenlanternman. We hardly knew ye.....or did we?

[Kahuna]

61. Not necessarily 11 pts. I'm expecting more like 5 pts. nt

[FrenchieCat]

42. Who gives a shit about Cable Master Pastorbaters.......

I certainly don't.

and I certainly don't watch them, like the majority of the American population other than the 400,000 political geeks who rise and fall based on Joe's words.

[apocalypsehow]

35. K & R.

:thumbsup:

[malik flavors]

38. Nice!

[Arkana]

44. What the hell?

That has to be an internet poll. What did McCain do in the past week that made him lose 5 points in the polls?

[MadBadger]

46. Not an internet poll...and McCain is getting some media coverage this week, none of it good

His gas tax pandering, his fuckup on Iraq and going there for oil.

[Arkana]

53. Don't get me wrong. I'm not complaining--just cynical.

Yeah, I know--even though I support Barack my cynicism still controls me.

[Kahuna]

50. He's dithering and it shows. nt

[TSIAS]

45. There goes the electability argument

From all I've seen, Obama is equally and perhaps more electable than Sen. Clinton.

Let's hope it's over by 5/6.

[greenlanternman]

52. And discount Gallup and Rasmussen?

What if Hillary said, "there goes Obama's electability argument" based on those other polls? 2 is more than 1, by the way.

[NJSecularist]

55. Cognitive dissonance is a wonderful thing. They engage in it frequently. n/t

[sudopod]

79. OH U nt

[ecstatic]

95. aren't you the only poster on DU to switch from Obama to Clinton

(winner to loser)? Project much? :crazy:

[MadBadger]

57. Shut up Palatino

[greenlanternman]

60. shut up hnmnf, poll cherry-picker n/t

[MadBadger]

62. Now can frenchie say you joined just to shit on the poll?

[Forkboy]

72. LOL..I suspect your stay will be short lived...again.

[Kahuna]

59. Tut tut tut. Trust me. Gallup and Ras will soon reflect the same

results. Could be hillary overplayed her hand with the, 'you're either with us or against us' bullshit, ala bushie. :puke:

[greenlanternman]

63. Do you have a crystal ball?

Predicting the future is not a very convincing argument.

why aren't they finding Obama ahead NOW? Because Obama's lead is not a thing of the future, according to the CBS/NYT "poll". It's a thing of the present. Explain the lag you think Gallup and Rasmussen have.

[Kahuna]

65. No. Just experience in watching and assessing trends. nt

[Carrieyazel]

74. CBS/NYT polls have a lousy track record. Polling is not their strong suit.

I'll take Rasmussen, Cook PolitReport, Zogby and Gallup's Tracking (not their polls with CNN though). These polls have the best reliability records in recent years.

The big media polls are usually wrong. I don't know exactly why that is.

[MadBadger]

84. Bullshit

CBS does national polls. How would you know about their track record? All I see is that they predicted a two point Bush victory in 2004. Seems pretty good to me.

[my3boyz]

70. Obama is leading her in another poll too! The SD's are not stupid

They see what the media is doing. They know his numbers will dip temporarily just as they did ever other time the media started up on Wright.

[sudopod]

81. Even if you're right

why get in such a tiz?

OH NOEZ, SOME GUY ON THE INTARNETS MAY HAVE A SLIGHTLY MORE OPTIMISTIC OUTLOOK FOR THEIR CANDIDATE THAN I DO, I MUST POST MOAR TO DISCOURAGE THEM!

LOL, internet.

[scheming daemons]

98. Gallup has Obama back up by 4 over Hillary

Try again, newbee.

[Carrieyazel]

67. Is Obama camp doing the sampling for CBS? This poll isn't even in the ballpark.

Seriously this poll gave me a good laugh. CBS News. Their reporting is solid, I like their coverage, but their polling/surveys department is a complete joke. Their polls with the NY Times are notoriously wrong. We're talking 10+ points difference between them and a reliable poll.

Ignore.

[greenlanternman]

69. MIght be that the NY Times was embarassed by fact-checkers re: the McCain libel

When they said McCain was cheating on his wife, remember? They may be out for revenge. They hate McCain. I hate McCain, but I'm not supposed to be an unbiased newspaper.

[Zachstar]

71. Some good news!

[ericgtr]

78. K&R

:kick:

[Middle finga]

85. To the MSM.....Your Campaign of hate didn't work bitches!!!

[book_worm]

86. And to think just a few days ago some Hillary supporters were gleeful about the Wright non-issue

believing that Obama was doomed and that it would propell their heroine to the nomination.

[honeylady]

92. McCain is a Terrible Candidate

There is no way McCain is going to win the GE.  He is a
terrible candidate - full of contradictions and flip flops. 
He appears to be stupid (maybe he is in the beginning stages
of dementia).  He looks tired, he's slow and angry.  Also,
democrats will be voting in huge amounts in November.  I think
either candidate will clean his clock.  But my money is on
Obama (or as I call him, Baroma).  

[book_worm]

87. kick since a Hill supporter is pretending a old CBS poll is the newest poll.

[TBF]

88. Great news!

[Zhade]

90. Hey clinton supporters who argued he was tanking? TOLD YOU SO.

Get used to that saying - you'll hear it again when Obama clinches the nomination.

Now go back to desperately searching for your next manufactured scandal.

[ecstatic]

94. The american people are finally getting it!

They want REAL change and solutions, not worthless gimmicks and pandering. Shame on both Clinton and McCain for insulting the intelligence of voters at such a crucial time! Kudos to Obama for treating us like adults!

[Blondiegrrl]

103. Ditto your post! n/t

[Warren Stupidity]

96. Well then I guess I hope Clinton wins the Reknucklian Nomination

I'll take a 12 point lead over an 11 point lead any day.

[meow mix]

99. wow! K&R

[samsingh]

100. i like that both our candidates beat the truly evil bush-bot that is

mccain

[TexanDem]

102. K&R Lookin' good!

[crankychatter]

104. I just went to the CNN site... says "Obama loses National Support" cites 'polls'

has spooky pictures of Obama... all lurid and sleazy and Freddy Kruger looking about downticket attack ads...

I can't even read it

Are they outright LYING?

How does that effect the vote Tuesday?

[meow mix]

105. k&R

[BenDavid]

107. yeah, and all these silly ass polls were telling you obama folks

that he was closing in Pa. and you all were looking for an upset. WOW! It tis amazing how you all are so damn gullible to a poll by an oranization that even though they endorsed hrc does not mind trying to cut her throat any chance they get, and CBS is the same......all I know for sure is obama is not an honest broker in this campaign and I hope his ass loses.

[TheDonkey]

108. gobama

[DerekJ]

109. K & R

[RiverStone]

110. Kicking for the insomniacs!

Actually, I'd kick it no matter what time it was.

Great news - thanks for posting :hi:

GoBama!

[workinclasszero]

111. GOBAMA!!

Obama is gonna beat Mr. "100 year war" McCain like a drum in the GE!:woohoo:

[barack the house]

112. Keep buying mp3 players jam pack them with Obama speeches and progressive radio.

Mail them door to door to get truth out. They are very cheap on ebay if you get the memory stick kind.

[McCamy Taylor]

113. Misleading title. Poll has Clinton-Obama tied. Read the link, not the title.

With Dems they are neck and neck as with every other poll.