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adoraz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-04-08 05:40 PM
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Why are some so confident Obama will beat McCain?
Edited on Sun May-04-08 05:42 PM by adoraz
I'd really like to believe that, but why are some so confident?

I actually didn't think any Republican was that bad to face, but out of all of them, McCain seems like the worst.

I would have LOVED for Obama to go up against the other 2 people who put up a fight (Romney or Huckabee).

Romney just had way too high negatives and didn't seem to appeal to many people. Plus, he is Mormon, so that would have drawn some attention away from Obama being *gasp* black.

Huckabee seems to just appeal mainly to Southerns. In other words, in the states Obama will lose like Alabama.

Both of them seem to be very weak candidates, but McCain seems pretty solid.

Any reasons to think his poll numbers will start sinking?
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-04-08 05:43 PM
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1. Because OBama is a better person, a better candidate, a better man,
Edited on Sun May-04-08 05:44 PM by FrenchieCat
a smarter person, a more inspiring figure, a more even tempered individual, who can raise more money, excite more people, tell more truths, change more policies, end more wars, and provide Americans with more pride, and restore our credibility with more nations.
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Hawaii Hiker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-04-08 05:50 PM
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12. Right on the money Frenchiecat
Obama has light years more intelligence & temperment than John McCain...McCain has limited intelligence & ZERO temperment...
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MannyGoldstein Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-04-08 05:44 PM
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2. 'More War, Fewer Jobs, Stay The Bush Course'
That shouldn't be a tough platform to beat. Really.

In any case, Obama is our nominee, so let's make the best of it!
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Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-04-08 05:44 PM
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3. Because his poll numbers are already sinking.
Obama 51(+6), McCain 40(-5)

Clinton 53(+5), McCain 41(-2)

http://www.cbsnews.com/htdocs/pdf/MAY08A-Politics.pdf

And no one is even really going after him yet. He's firmly tied himself to Bush's policies, contradicting himself in the process, and is a weak candidate among a party full of them this year.
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Cant trust em Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-04-08 05:44 PM
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4. Because Obama is a democrat and McCain is a republican. The issues are on our side. NT
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Carrieyazel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-04-08 07:15 PM
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36. The issues were also on our side in 2000, and look what happened.
In the Prez race, its more about the candidates fooling the public, not so much the issues.
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Arkana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-04-08 05:45 PM
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5. All either candidate has to do is hammer home that McCain = Bush
and people will flock to the Democrats in droves.

You forget--McCain still thinks we can "win" in Iraq and will commit troops there until we're all dead. This is not popular opinion, regardless of what Dick(head) Cheney thinks.
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MrSlayer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-04-08 05:45 PM
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6. because McCain is a weak candidate looking to continue Bush's policies.
Once Barack gets him one on one he'll wipe the floor with him on the issues. Only the very rich and the very insane will vote for McCain.
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jody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-04-08 05:46 PM
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7. Perhaps some have drunk Obama's Kool-Aid. Have FAITH and chant “HOPE, CHANGE”,
you will be invested with supernatural powers that will allow you to defeat all the demons in your fantasy.

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Arkana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-04-08 05:48 PM
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9. Stay classy there, champ.
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-04-08 05:50 PM
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13. Maybe you will one day make a post that actually says something
other than lightweight jabs based on stupidity.


I have determined that I don't have to put up with nonsense bullshit, and thus far, that is all that you have presented.

You are now officially on Ignore.
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DAGDA56 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-04-08 06:00 PM
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17. Cool graphics...stupid post...but cool graphics...I'll bet you're the
smartest boy in your class!
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jody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-04-08 06:22 PM
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29. That's true I am the smartest and I teach only graduate courses. n/t
Edited on Sun May-04-08 06:25 PM by jody
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stevenleser Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-04-08 06:07 PM
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20. Official "Using dumb codewords instead of making an argument" *PLONK*
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C_U_L8R Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-04-08 05:47 PM
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8. McCain's poll numbers are looking twice as strong as the truly are
Or put it this way, the Democratic numbers are split between two candidates
and until there is a true one-to-one matchup, there's no way to get an honest read
on how McCain will do or not do (regardless of which Dem). But if primary numbers
are any indication (new voters, base turnout, and overall enthusiasm), then McCain is fucked.
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rocktivity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-04-08 06:16 PM
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28. DING DING DING! C_U_L8R, you're our grand prize winner!
Edited on Sun May-04-08 06:31 PM by rocknation
...(T)he Democratic numbers are split between two candidates and until there is a true one-to-one matchup, there's no way to get an honest read on how McCain will do or not do (regardless of which Dem).

The May 4 CBS polls are encouraging, certainly. But a long as there is a "choice" of Dem candidates versus one Repub--a head-OR-head-to-head matchup, if you will--you really can't take that much stock in them.

:headbang:
rocknation
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Vinca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-04-08 05:48 PM
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10. Because as soon as the worker bees find out McBush's healthcare
plan involves doing away with employer-provided insurance and leaves them on their own with $5,000 trying to buy a $12,000 policy (assuming they have no pre-existing condition), they'll run like the wind toward Obama.
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DAGDA56 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-04-08 05:48 PM
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11. I have an image of a debate in the back of my mind...
Edited on Sun May-04-08 05:50 PM by DAGDA56
...the only problem I see is if Obama takes it easy on him. I hope he really rattles him, and the famous McCain temper flairs. That's probably all it would take. Picture McCain red-faced and sputtering...he might even say you know what!
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datopbanana Donating Member (938 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-04-08 05:51 PM
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14. 100 years. War for oil. I don't know anything about the Econ. Pat Buch "ghandi" comment
And everything else he will blabber out before NOV.
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seasat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-04-08 05:59 PM
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15. Because either candidate would beat McCain
Edited on Sun May-04-08 06:00 PM by seasat
McCain is enjoying a grace period since the MSM is focused on the sparring between the Democrats. However, once our party unites and all that energy that is going into this primary focuses on McCain, he'll sink like nothing else. Rasmussen polling, base on electoral college numbers in each state, has a 60% probability that a Democrat will take the White House. McCain is against the majority of voters on the war, the economy, and health care. We own the top issues in the race.

Now Obama brings something extra. He energizes young new voters. He'll bring not only have our traditional core but a new group into the fold. You'll have an old stodgy McCain who tends to stick his foot in his mouth against a younger energetic charismatic candidate. Obama should easily win.
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TexasLady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-04-08 05:59 PM
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16. 'Cuz
:D
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SoonerPride Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-04-08 06:01 PM
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18. Because McCain is a terrible, incompetent, angry fool.
Obama will make him look old and feeble and stupid.
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NorthCarolina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-04-08 06:31 PM
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31. I think you forgot "senile"
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Arkansas Granny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-04-08 06:05 PM
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19. I don't know. The polls I've looked at so far don't seem to indicate that he can.
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Snarkoleptic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-04-08 06:08 PM
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21. McSame will show us all just how clueless he is.
He's certain to show how detached he is from the issues.
He'll also quite likely have some major 'senior moments'.
I just hope his Depends hold up as well as the batteries in his earpiece.
(ref. bump caused by Chimpy McFuckstain's 'clue delivery system')
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rocktivity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-04-08 06:09 PM
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22. McCain has Bush Jr.'s arrogance, Reagan's confusion, Nixon's paranoia
Edited on Sun May-04-08 06:30 PM by rocknation
and all of their policies.

:headbang:
rocknation
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Kahuna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-04-08 06:10 PM
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23. McCain is a gaffe a minute. There is no way he can sustain the mirage
that he is up to the job.
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stevenleser Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-04-08 06:10 PM
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24. I'm more interested in the reverse. Why do you think he can't/won't beat McCain?
McCain has lukewarm support among his conservative base, he has a litany of outbursts to which to point to make the argument about Presidential temperment, and he was part of a number of high profile scandals that involved his job, not silly stuff or his personal life.
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gravity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-04-08 06:12 PM
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25. McCain is old and tired
while Obama is fresh and exciting.

With the state of the country the way it is, people want a change. You aren't going to get any votes defending Bush's policies this time around
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PurityOfEssence Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-04-08 06:12 PM
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26. Because they say so
It's a faith-based candidacy.

Many supporters are so personally committed to him that ANY questioning of him as less than perfect is a vicious personal assault to them. This is nothing new; fervent belief and need to be seen as correct are core human characteristics. In fact, much as many of his believers vehemently reject that he's anything other than a standard politico, he's precisely that.

The idea that he's smarter or more ethical than Hillary Clinton is simply laughable. They're actually quite similar in their ubercautious ultramoderate approach to things, and their circuitry is pretty damned equal. Mercifully, at least a fair proportion of her supporters admit some of the flaws, whereas his often get into a full-blown tizzy if anything short of saintliness is suggested.

The trajectory dynamic is one to bear in mind, too: when heroes start to experience some fall-off, things can go to hell very quickly. He's never really taken serious hits like the ones the reactionaries will level at his patriotism, whereas she's sustained plenty of damage over the years.
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depakid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-04-08 06:13 PM
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27. For the same reason that many believe their favotrite team will win any given sporting event
Bookies love those kind of folks....
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MUAD_DIB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-04-08 06:29 PM
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30. Both Hillary and Barack have a good shot at beating McGrumps.
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4themind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-04-08 06:33 PM
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32. Assuming the party can unify, I think there will be
Edited on Sun May-04-08 06:34 PM by 4themind
a unity bounce. THe assumption being that McCains numbers are being bolstered by either hillary or Obama (with clinton vs. mccain)supporters that are somewhat polarized during the midsts of a polarizing primary, but that at least a percentage of which may very well come back to obama (or hillary if she's the nominee), when the differences in issues are presented. We'll see
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TBF Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-04-08 06:35 PM
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33. The economy is in the dumps
Average people can not afford higher gas and health care costs. I do believe health care will be one of the biggest factors in this election. Hillary had negatives coming into this & that is part of the reason I believe she can't win. Obama has incredible charisma and solid ideas.
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shraby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-04-08 07:01 PM
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34. With McCain running for Bush's third term
and everyone knows it's a McBush candidacy, a slug could beat McBush.
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Carrieyazel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-04-08 07:10 PM
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35. McCain is definitely the toughest and only electable candidate they had.
Edited on Sun May-04-08 07:13 PM by Carrieyazel
And they nominated him. He'll be quite tough to beat, and anyone who thinks otherwise is foolish.

A lot of these people are the same crowd who told us incessantly that Kerry could not miss, and had it in the bag. They can't see outside their own worlds.

McCain's numbers had stagnated, but recently came back up after Rev. Jeremiah's media blitz.
(Except in that way off the mark CBS/NYT poll that came out today.)

Its doubtful McCain's numbers will sink much below 45% in polls that are actually reliable.
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Roxy66 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-04-08 07:19 PM
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37. I think he will tear him apart when he's finally the Nominee!!
Edited on Sun May-04-08 07:23 PM by Roxy66
I really think he's been holding back until he gets past this hurtle with Hillary. It's different going up against someone in the same party when you need the oppositions supporters...than going after the enemy!!!
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