Indy J-J Dinner?

[Kittycat]

Does anyone know if the J-J dinner is televised tonight, and what time Obama & Clinton are speaking?

[AllentownJake]

1. I don't know

I just hope we don't have another booing controversy.

[SwampG8r]

29. if its spontaneous booing too bad

[AllentownJake]

33. I know

but than I have to listen to all the damn whining on here. I'd rather they just not applaud so I don't see 50 classless Obama supporter threads.

[SwampG8r]

62. also true

but if you were in that audience would you be able to sit and say nothing?

[AllentownJake]

I'm from PA and spent a few years in Philadelphia

We aren't known for our manners :-)

I lived in Indiana...the people there value their politeness as much as we value our rudeness on the coast.

I think I got the finger once driving there in 3 years...I get it about 3 times a week in PA....Home Sweet Home

[faithfulcitizen]

2. I think it's going to be on C-span 9:30 ET.

http://www.cspan.org/ on edit: yes, it is. :)

[Muttocracy]

3. 9:30pm Eastern on c-span - link - and Dean too!

http://c-span.org/

Sen. Hillary Clinton (D-NY) and Sen. Barack Obama (D-IL) are guest speakers at tonight's Jefferson-Jackson Dinner. The Indiana Democratic Party sponsors this event from the Indiana Convention Center in Indianapolis, IN. DNC Chairman Howard Dean is also featured.

on C-SPAN at 9:30pm (ET)

http://c-span.org/Watch/C-SPAN_wm.aspx

[Patsy Stone]

4. I don't know if it's on TV

But it's scheduled to start streaming here at 8 p.m., Eastern. Howard Dean is also speaking.

http://www.wishtv.com/

[sfam]

9. Thanks! Watching this now. Evan Bayh is giving a good Kumbuya speech...

He's a good speaker, and a good MC. He's speaking a good generic Democratic line, perhaps with too much apple pie, but is still pretty good.

[sfam]

10. "Don't spend a Buck without the Duck!"...truly wierd ad on WishTV

WackyZack.com? Hmmm...no, I don't think I'm going there, even though a purple duck with a Three Musketeers saber looks pretty funny...unfortunately, it doesn't look like they have rotating ads, so I'm stuck with the duck...

Hopefully another speaker comes on soon (Bayh is done).

EDIT: BTW, for those who don't know what Microsoft Silverlight is, its a terrific competing product to Adobe Flash. Its gonna be a MUST install in the next few months, so you might as well now if you need to install to watch the dinner speeches...

[Patsy Stone]

11. I just installed it

I thought I wasn't getting a feed, but then I realized I needed the app.

It makes me feel better knowing I'm not giving FOX any ratings. :)

And, yeah, I have no clue what that damn duck is about.

[sfam]

12. Just saw a demo on Microsoft Silverlight last week....its awesome...

I'm a Web 2.0 geek in real life. Microsoft Silverlight will make HUGE inroads in Rich Internet Applications traditionally run by Adobe Flash. It really is the Bomb. And I say this as someone who generally hates Microsoft (I use Firefox, for instance, not IE).

EDIT: as an aside, might I just say, "Thumbs up" on the music track they are running!

[sfam]

14. Hillary's coming up right now...why does she always speak first at these things?

She did this for the VA Dems dinner as well. I'm guessing this is sort of a Jimi Hendrix type thing (he always went last), where she doesn't want to be upstaged by a terrific speech if she goes second.

Now she's doing the clap-clap-point thing...

EDIT: Indy 500 reference..."Are you ready to start your engines and get this country going again???"

[sfam]

20. So far, Hillary is doing a generic Dem speech, just like the VA Dem event....nt

[JimGinPA]

5. It's Going To Be On C-SPAN...

I just saw an announcement.

[Kittycat]

6. Excellent. Thank you everyone :)

[flpoljunkie]

7. Fox News is showing Evan Bayh at J-J dinner! Obama supporters making their voices heard!

Bayh is introducing Hillary Clinton to speak at the J-J dinner.

[flpoljunkie]

8. Kick! Watch Fox News! It may not last long--J-J dinner coverage!

[FrenchieCat]

13. Hillary's first, like she likes!

Yuk! won't turn on fox to see her, that's for sure.

I'll wait and watch C-Span.

[sfam]

15. WishTV has it on live...nt

[flpoljunkie]

16. Unfortunately, C-Span coverage does not begin until 9:30PM ET.

[FrenchieCat]

18. I'll wait.

[jefferson_dem]

17. If there was any doubt about the collusion between FauxNews and Hillary, check out the coverage.

Sickening media shillary...

[FrenchieCat]

21. Both have been boosting her all week, and all week-end.

Talking about transparent is an understatement.

Plus, I don't watch cable news anymore....not from the Cable Triplets.

I wrote about that here: http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x5810894

[sfam]

24. Does Hillary think Reverend Wright is a bread and butter, kitchen table issue?

Just wondering...'cause that is what she is now saying the focus should be...

[TexanDem]

19. Hillary on now on CNN and Fox - dunno if they'll show it all or not.

[jenmito]

22. Hillary's acting now, using hushed tones. What a phony.

[jefferson_dem]

25. This is "Bedtime Story Voice" Hillary.

Ugh... Patronizing tone is nauseating.

One has to wonder -- who is the real Hillary? Does she even know? What mask will she wear tomorrow?

[jenmito]

26. It's REALLY sickening. She really needs to fire her voice/drama coach and be HERSELF...

whoever THAT is!

[sfam]

27. OK, I gotta agree, the "Bedtime for Hillary" voice isn't working for me either...

Strange that she would change her oratory approach so late in the campaign. How many make-overs can one person have in a year?

[jenmito]

32. I guess she asked her coach to teach her something new since she was booed at the last JJ

Dinner! :shrug:

[flpoljunkie]

41. It's putting me to sleep, the J-J dinner attendees, I would expect, as well!

O-BAM-A! O-BAM-A! O-BAM-A!

[jenmito]

44. They're liking her and her new voice(s).

[Auntie Bush]

23. Clinton is speaking now as I type.

[jenmito]

28. "We had enough of the speeches and the rhetoric..." Does she ever NOT take a swipe at Obama?

[4themind]

43. Then WTF is she doing right now then??!!!!, Communicating in Mime?-nt

[jenmito]

47. That's all she has against Obama-to ridicule him for being so inspirational.

She's ridiculing him again, saying it'll take someone like HER to get things done instead of someone like OBAMA who will only "hope" for change. That's the implication of what she's saying now.

[sfam]

30. Immediate action for gas prices? Does that mean she's going to introduce legislation tomorrow?

Or is this just more pandering banter?

"Everyone....Everyone..."

For a second there, I had a Dan Ackroyd flashback to the Blues Brothers movie...

[flpoljunkie]

35. She can introduce legislation 'til the cows come home knowing it will go nowhere cause it won't work

It is the ultimate pander, and even if Congress passed the legislation, Bush would not sign it, and if he did, it would not drive down the price of gas at the pump. More likely, it would just increase Exxon-Mobil's profits--Shell's too, Steven Elmendorf (Shell lobbyist and Hillary Clinton surrogate)!

[sfam]

37. But wouldn't it be nice to at least see her follow through on the "Immediate" thing?

she won't of course, because of the ridicule she will get. She doesn't really want to implement the gas tax, she just wants to talk about it.

[flpoljunkie]

39. Wolfson said she would introduce the gas tax holiday. They know it's a total pander, like this...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yzBvQ9EeF3k

[sfam]

63. Well gosh...if its an immediate need, when does she think she might get around to doing something...

Then again, with a proposal as bad as this, all talk and no action is actually a good thing!

[flpoljunkie]

98. Oh, she's do it, knowing fully that it is going nowhere, and if it did pass, it wouldn't work.

It would make Shell and Exxon-Mobil very happy though.

[jenmito]

31. "If I hear ONE MORE TIME how people here need help in some way, I'll be even MORE

committed to helping the people here and throughout America..." (paraphrased, but it was REALLY stupid)

[crimsonblue]

34. how many of these damn dinners are there?

[AllentownJake]

36. One in every state

[crimsonblue]

38. they should come up with some other name..

something more locally relevant.

[AllentownJake]

40. Thomas Jefferson/Andrew Jackson

The two people labled as the founders of the party.

[crimsonblue]

45. the party bears more resemblance to the original Republican party....

[AllentownJake]

49. Yes

They run with Lincoln, we run with Thomas Jefferson and Andrew Jackson but historically they are the two people who founded the party. Jefferson originally than Jackson reforming it in the 1820s.

[crimsonblue]

64. so it's all for the name recognition?

why not just have Arby's or somebody sponsor it, and kill two birds with one stone

[jenmito]

42. This audience is friendlier to her than the one in NC. I can't wait to see how they react to Obama.

[my3boyz]

46. Sucks..I wanted them to boo her. LOL They might be hostile to Obama. nt

[jenmito]

48. She's playing the part of Rocky again. But I doubt they'll boo Obama.

[AllentownJake]

51. Hoosiers

Are very polite. I don't think they boo people that often.

[sfam]

54. Agreed. I doubt they will boo anyone.

Bully for them! too bad everyone doesn't follow their example.

[MadBadger]

50. For all the clapping I hear, there isnt a lot of people clapping when they pan to the crowd.

[jenmito]

52. Shhh. I can't hear her. She's whispering again.

What a phony.

[sfam]

58. She's just trying to put you to sleep so you won't hear the next speech...nt

[my3boyz]

60. LOL nt

[jenmito]

61. It won't work. He'll wake me right back up!

[jefferson_dem]

55. There is polite applause is all. I'm impressed by the lack of enthusiasm in the hall.

May be that Indiana folks are just more reserved. We'll see what happens when Barack hits the stage.

[tishaLA]

53. WTHR in Indianapolis is carrying it online

But for some reason the video isn't playing for me--I just get the sound. That's enough, I suppose.

[sfam]

59. try WishTV.com...comes in perfectly...nt

[tishaLA]

66. thanks so much

[Muttocracy]

70. thanks! nt

[jenmito]

56. I CAN'T STAND HER!!!!!!!! STOP WHISPERING!!!!!!!!!!!

[Muttocracy]

57. it's not on C-Span yet, but the British Parliament is on and I love it! nt

[4themind]

65. Don't you wish Shrub would have to defend his policies like that?

Seeing blair fighting with the MP's was always interesting to me

[Muttocracy]

68. that's the thing - being PM is a workout compared to Pres or Maj leader or Speaker here. nt

[Pisces]

67. Fox News is covering the speeches, Barack is up next.

[Muttocracy]

69. so is this just music in between them? should we start a new thread for Obama? nt

[Muttocracy]

73. edit - actually Dean! nt

[grantcart]

71. kick

[Patsy Stone]

72. Coming up in moments: Howard Dean!

:loveya:

[sfam]

74. Howard Dean is up now...Yeaaaaaaaaaaooowwww!!!!! nt

[sfam]

75. great...Dean is likening this race to 1968...can't wait for the convention....

Just doesn't seem to be the best year we could use for an inspirational democratic party message, but maybe that's just me...

[sfam]

77. "The only thing that can stop us from winning the presidency is ourselves..."

Yeah, that's a good message to say. Too bad Hillary already left the building...would be nice if she heard that too...

[sfam]

86. Dean is putting up a really good message for Unity...too bad nobody listens to him....

Hopefully others who democrats do listen to echo his talking points after the race is decided.

[Muttocracy]

76. delete

delete

[sfam]

78. What's wrong with continuing to use this thread? nt

[Muttocracy]

79. was trying to avoid dial-up overload for people when it gets too long - but I'll delete the other.

[TexanDem]

80. Dean? I'm just getting this on Fox. not showing Dean. Where are y'all watching?

[sfam]

81. WishTV.com nt

[Muttocracy]

82. it's confusing - Dean is on WTHR.com; HRC is on C-span on delay. nt

[sfam]

83. WishTV.com is a live internet feed...

You have to install Microsoft Silverlight, but you probably want to do that anyways. Its the new Adobe Flash.

[TexanDem]

84. I don't get those channels -- guess I'm stuck with Fox - whatever.

[Muttocracy]

87. I'm watching online so I don't know for sure what's live, or up on TV. nt

[sfam]

88. WishTV.com is a website for an Indiana TV station. You listen online...nt

[TexanDem]

85. Just heard on Fox -- Obama AND Hillary on Fox & Friends in the morning

[Muttocracy]

89. Obama up now on the live feeds (C-span is on delay, showing Hillary) nt

[tishaLA]

90. I wish Hamilton wasn't with him

Because of his performance on the 9/11 Commission....but I'm sure he has a lot of good will in Indiana.

[sfam]

92. I don't know that Hamilton really has a bad name...you're probably pushing this a bit far...nt

[Tatiana]

91. Hillary is doing very well. She has obviously listened to the people of Indiana. n/t

[TexasLady]

93. The lighting is CRAP

Everyone looks pretty bad under it.
yuck!

[sfam]

94. Looks FAR better online than it does on CNN and Fox...

I actually switched back to WishTV because of it...not sure what the deal with is with CNN and Fox...

[FrenchieCat]

95. I'm watching on delay......

Just turned up the volume on Hillary.

She's promising the world.

She's talking NAFTA that her husband signed.
She's talking China Trade deal which her husband signed.

Now's she's getting worked up about the policies her husband put in place.

[sfam]

96. "How many years...how many decades have we talked and talked about these problems..."

For a second there, I thought Obama was gonna break into a modified "blowing in the wind" tune. But he asks a fundamental question: When will Washington actually start addressing our critical challenges?

[sfam]

97. "What do we stand for? What kind of party are we?"

Good questions. Posed in relation to the "Shell game" gas tax holiday.