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Texas Hill Country Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-05-08 10:17 AM
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TX Caucus Fraud By Obama Campaign Being Investigated
Edited on Mon May-05-08 10:19 AM by Texas Hill Country
This is starting to bounce around the net, several blogs, and will prolly hit MSM soon, especially if Hillary extends her winning streak and the primaries continue.

I am disgusted and witnessed many of the same things myself.


http://www.mydd.com/story/2008/5/2/22818/72392



Following my friend Lois Capps' endorsement of Barack Obama, it became clear that I had done her and other delegates a disservice by not disclosing information I witnessed at the Texas caucuses, and that endorsements should be made with the benefit of this information. After her endorsement, I wrote to Rep. Capps so that she can be fully informed in the event that delegates are forced to shift from one candidate to the other as the party forms a consensus behind the stronger of the two candidates.

I need to point out that I am not on the Hillary for President campaign staff, and that the campaign has gone to significant lengths to keep this dirty laundry out of the press. However, it is my strong feeling that we should not withhold evidence of crime, particularly since it is inconsistent with the public Obama image of being above "anything it takes to win," and it sheds significant light onto the otherwise puzzling difference between the popular vote and caucus results. Here are excerpts from my letter to Rep. Capps.

I was a volunteer field organizer in El Paso, Texas and investigated irregularities for three weeks after the election.

As a Democratic Coordinated Campaign Regional Director in 1996 and as a volunteer on campaigns in the 1990s, I have the ethical obligation to report what I saw in Texas.

When California 22nd CD Republican candidate Tom Bordonaro famously tried to suppress the vote by phone banking under a false name, many of us in the Capps campaign immediately said that we would walk away from a campaign if our side were similarly unethical. That moment kept replaying through my head election night in El Paso. Simply put, the Obama campaign made Tom Bordonaro look ethical.

Lois Capps is correct when she wrote that Sen. Obama is inspiring. However, many of the actions of his campaign that I witnessed and investigated are criminal.

-snip and more at link-
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thevoiceofreason Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-05-08 10:19 AM
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1. Should have seen the street money Hillary was throwing around in Houston!
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democrattotheend Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-05-08 10:20 AM
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2. I have heard fraud/intimidation stories from both sides
The sense I get is that the Texas caucuses were just a mess, period. Poorly organized and open to fraud and voter intimidation on both sides. I think the problem was that they did not have neutral people running them...whoever got their early and claimed it first got to be caucus chair.
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Texas Hill Country Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-05-08 10:22 AM
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4. read the story. they took the package out of the chairs' hand illegally, called in false #'s. etc
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wowimthere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-05-08 10:21 AM
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3. This is one of those stories that's used to trump the NC robo-calling.
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Adelante Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-05-08 10:22 AM
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5. This is a DUPE
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GoesTo11 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-05-08 10:23 AM
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6. Already multiple posts on this non-story
Hillary's army is following orders.
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Ichingcarpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-05-08 10:23 AM
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7. A Larry (the racist) Johnson CIA spin which originated from his site first
I traced where the story came from and it originated from Larry Johnson's site.
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Indenturedebtor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-05-08 10:24 AM
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8. Pull up the post where you mentioned this yourself
I've never heard of any of this and it's been months since the first caucus. :eyes:
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bowens43 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-05-08 10:26 AM
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9. more nonsense from desperate hillbots
who want to win at any and all costs
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yellowcanine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-05-08 10:26 AM
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10. I was a volunteer field organizer in El Paso, Texas Yeah right.
This guy is as phony as a $3 bill, imo. Note that he does not give his real name. Why is that? If he were who he says he is and had credible evidence of wrongdoing he should tell it to a judge.
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-05-08 10:27 AM
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11. lol. An "investigation" by volunteer field organizer hillbot
a legitimate investigation is one done by the state. how misleading and disgusting dishonest. typical from my dd
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noisyanimal Donating Member (11 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-05-08 10:28 AM
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12. MYDD is not an independent source
Is it really under investigation?
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Texas Hill Country Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-05-08 10:33 AM
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14. this guy has signed affidavits and is talking to election lawyers... i would say so, yeah
Edited on Mon May-05-08 10:34 AM by Texas Hill Country
he was also an investigator for 2000 and 2004, and says this is worse than the GOP in FLORIDA
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jaxx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-05-08 10:31 AM
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13. Another I would be winning IF
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Boz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-05-08 10:33 AM
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15. Anyone care to remember Hillary Clinton herself was training people to do this very thing.......
Her campaign held training programs for caucus goers to seize the control of the chair, and told them they were not obligated to report the numbers immediately and many of her trained caucusers did just that they physically forced their way to take control of the packets and the chair.

Hillary Clinton herself was videoed doing this very training the weekend before the election.

Why would this wait months to break when we know practically minutes after a candidate breaks wind?

Self serving political conveniences are an amazing tool when you spin what you did into what your opponent does.
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BlueIdaho Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-05-08 10:36 AM
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16. "This is starting to bounce around the net"
Because HRC supporters are bouncing it...


Please link to a reputable independent news source - not a biased web site.
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thevoiceofreason Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-05-08 10:38 AM
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17. This is such a load of crap.
The cool thing about the Texas caucus process is that there are so many checks built into the system. For example, let's assume there were indeed irregularities on election night when the precinct conventions were held (and there were irregularities, but on both sides - let's talk about the Clinton folks who drove off with empty packets!). Guess what? Every voter in the precinct has a right to challenge the results to the credentials committee at the state senate/county convention. From there, if irregularities occurred at the county/senate conventions, folks can file challenges to the state credentials committee. These credentials committees are fair folks (truly, in most instances, they are split 50-50) and by every account I have heard they strive to follow the rules.

So, my friend, how did those credentials challenges work out in El Paso? Oh, you mean the senate convention that broke the rules and awarded 0 delegates to Obama? Good try. And, by the way, that result is being challenged at state credentials. See, Obama folks know how to do maths and follow rules.
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-05-08 10:38 AM
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18. Anybody else laugh out loud at:
I need to point out that I am not on the Hillary for President campaign staff, and that the campaign has gone to significant lengths to keep this dirty laundry out of the press.

HILLARY'S campaign is going to significant lengths to keep OBAMA'S dirty laundry out of the press? I can't be reading that right!
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mrreowwr_kittty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-05-08 10:43 AM
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19. Well then they better seriously investigate the shit the Clinton campaign was pulling in NV!!
I personally saw the memo, distributed to Clinton supporters, that said "It's not illegal unless they tell you it is!". And believe me, her volunteers and staffers acted accordingly. It got so bad at the caucus I volunteered at that the precinct chair threatened to call the cops on the Clinton precinct captain and a staffer from CA. 3 undecided voters were told, by Clinton supporters, that they had to put "uncommitted" on their paper ballot and that was their first vote. They were told this a half hour before the caucus. When we Obama and Edwards' supporters found out, it was too late, they had already voted uncommitted.
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bridgit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-05-08 10:44 AM
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20. That's right, this story has been out there since the TX caucus...
But it's still interesting months later now; to see BHO folks twisting their own effigies in the wind like wind socks, "HILLARY TOSSED AROUND 'STREET' MONEY!!!!!!" "Hillary does stuff too nee-ner nee-ner" etc...

Or is it same ole same ole :eyes:
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yellowcanine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-05-08 10:53 AM
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21. The OP title is misleading. Investigated by whom? an anon. "volunteer" as it turns out.
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