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noisyanimal Donating Member (11 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-05-08 12:26 PM
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More Media double standard against Hillary, in favor of Obama, exposed
Edited on Mon May-05-08 12:27 PM by noisyanimal
Clinton-hating Gail Collins of the New York Times expressed outrage at Hillary Clinton's flag burning vote from years ago. See, that's what differentiates her and Obama. She is a pandedrer and he isn't. But thanks to the Daily Howler we learn that...Obama voted for that bill too! But did Collins point that out? You guessed right: No.

COLLINS (5/3/08): All this actually tells us something about the Democratic candidates, which has nothing to do with fuel prices. Obama believes voters want a sensible, less-divisive political dialogue, that the whole process can become more honorable if the right candidate leads the way. Hillary really doesn’t buy that. She has principles, but she doesn’t believe in principled stands. She thinks that if she can get elected, she can do great things. And to get there, she’s prepared to do whatever. That certainly includes endorsing any number of meaningless-to-ridiculous ideas. (See: her bill to make it illegal to desecrate an American flag.)

But this was not the first time this happened. Richard Cohen, a "progressive" Clinton-loatthing pundit ignored this inconvenient fact when she attacked Clinton as a panderer (and not Obama) 2 months ago in the WAPO:

COHEN (2/12/08): I was not alone in suggesting that on the flag issue, Clinton was readying herself for a presidential race and trying to blunt her image as a harridan of the political left. The New York Times reached the same conclusion and accused her of pandering.Again, precisely so.

Cohen had to be reminded by a reader that his belolved Obama voted against burning the flag, too:

COHEN (2/12/08): My Feb. 5 column was critical of Hillary Clinton for supporting a bill to make flag burning illegal. I have since learned from a reader that Barack Obama also supported that bill.

And you wonder who the mainstream media has despised all along.

http://dailyhowler.com/dh050508.shtml
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democrattotheend Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-05-08 12:27 PM
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1. Sure, if you say so
Hillary's gas tax plan is a pander, as all economists have said (even Krugman, who is usually pro-Hillary).

Obama may have gotten better coverage early on but saying he has been favored by the media lately is laughable.
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gaspee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-05-08 12:53 PM
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13. Krugman
Is pro-reality. Too bad you can't see that and can only see him as being "pro-HIllary" -- which he is not.

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DJ13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-05-08 12:28 PM
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2. Cry me a river
1 article and you start crying?

How about 24/7 for seven WEEKS pro-Clinton by the TV news shows?

Grow up.
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joeybee12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-05-08 12:28 PM
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3. Welcome...and, um Cohen, why did you have to learn from a reader?
Lame-ass.
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shishkebob Donating Member (6 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-05-08 01:05 PM
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25. We have a winner: Joey
The only DU'er who has mentioned Cohen or Collins, who wered the subjects of the thread.
The argument against them is so strong that others prefer to change the subject.
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Triana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-05-08 12:28 PM
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4. When you get the media to shut up about Pastor Wright then you can talk about the media's
double-standards against poor Hillary.

Until then:

FAIL.
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Texas Hill Country Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-05-08 12:29 PM
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5. duh... this has been obvious for a long time.
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lapfog_1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-05-08 12:30 PM
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6. Hillary is a...


pander-bear
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rateyes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-05-08 12:30 PM
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7. Wow, that "unpatriotic" guy who didn't put his hand over
his heart when the National Anthem was played, and won't wear a flag-pin is against flag-burning?

Whodathunkit? :sarcasm:

Who introduced that bill, BTW?
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Catch22Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-05-08 12:31 PM
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8. are you kidding?
the media is the only reason she's still in the race. They pretend she still has a chance and the people believe it. If they were really unbiased they would report the fact that she's clinging to a lost cause and hurting our party.
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shishkebob Donating Member (6 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-05-08 12:57 PM
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16. Oh yeah Matthews, Collins, Cohen, the wingnuts all love Hillary
Even David Brooks pretended to love Obama when it was time to bury Hillary.

And no, she is not "still on the race". she's toast. Peggy Noonan. Who has she bashed for the most part? and Drudge?
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juajen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-05-08 12:57 PM
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17. Are you saying that ONLY men can fight for a nomination to the finish?
Edited on Mon May-05-08 12:58 PM by juajen
Or, perhaps, you are totally unaware of our party's history. Check out Ted Kennedy's run, and others, who kept on until the convention with 700 delegates or less, as well as party favorites, Gary Hart, Jerry Brown, etc. I could go on and on.

None of the MALE candidates was nearly as close as Hillary is. As a matter of fact, this race is historically close, yet there is still this stupid cry for her to drop out.

WHAT IS THIS IDIOCY THAT ONLY APPLIES TO OUR FIRST VIABLE FEMALE CANDIDATE? Please don't ignore this question, as has been done in every other thread where it's been brought up. The Obama babies don't like facts, so, they ignore it and go on as if it was never said.

Perhaps there should be a parade and we should all lay palms in the Messiah's path?
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Catch22Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 06:08 AM
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27. Look, if you want to turn math into sexism, feel free
If the tables were turned, I'd feel EXACTLY the same way, I assure you.

Right now, her only hope is to go into the convention, behind in delegates, and ask that delegates switch. Period. That's bad for the party and bad for democracy. I couldn't care less what she carries between her legs. And don't presume to know how I felt in the past about candidates who held out until the convention.

If you choose to paint me with that brush because it's the ONLY weapon some of you have left, fine. I stopped caring about that bullshit months ago.

There, I didn't ignore your insult of a question...as requested.
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Lucky 13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-05-08 12:31 PM
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9. I'm sorry, but from all I've seen, the deck seems to be decidedly stacked against Obama.
Even this morning, there are multiple interviews and rally coverage of Clinton and none for Obama. They cannot mention his name without simultaneously mentioning Wright.

And she does OPENLY pander. She has made it painfully clear that she will say and do anything to get elected. Iraq War Vote: pandering. Saying she didn't regret the Iraq War vote as late as 2004: pandering. Ridiculous gas-tax plan to save me $30: pandering. Obliterate Iran: If this ISNT pandering I'm terrified.
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gaspee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-05-08 12:53 PM
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14. Of course
Typical "victim" mentality.
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shishkebob Donating Member (6 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-05-08 01:01 PM
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21. victim mentality? reminds me of the ABC debate whiners n/t
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Lucky 13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-05-08 02:39 PM
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26. I'm not claiming Obama is a victim.
I'm simply responding to the OP's assertion that HILLARY is the victim. Just seems like if anyone should be complaining, WHICH I'M NOT, it should be OBAMA, not Hillary.


AND she openly panders. Openly and obviously.
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shishkebob Donating Member (6 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-05-08 12:55 PM
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15. What good does it do Hillary now that she can't catch up with Obama?
Why did the media wait this long? easy. To make sure Hillary was buried first.
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wurzel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-05-08 12:34 PM
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10. The media is equal opportunity Dem baiters.
The intention of the media is to destroy them both. One at a time.
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joeybee12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-05-08 12:39 PM
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11. Yes, they hated Hilary, loved Obama, and now they've turned it around...
...while I doubt they will ever love Hilary, they are focusing all their attention on Obama now.
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wurzel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-05-08 12:48 PM
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12. Absolutely. It is a tag game.
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shishkebob Donating Member (6 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-05-08 12:59 PM
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18. A tag game which only turned against Obama in the last 5% of the race
Guess which Democrat came out victorious? The one for whom the swooning went on for the longest, by far.
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L0oniX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-05-08 01:03 PM
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23. Anything to keep it going because it means more AD money for them.
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L0oniX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-05-08 01:00 PM
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19. Where the hell have you been? This weekend was packed with Wright shit on tv.
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shishkebob Donating Member (6 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-05-08 01:03 PM
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22. did you read what Collins and Cohen did?
And the Wright issue is not double standard, which was shown in this thread about Collins and Cohen.
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L0oniX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-05-08 01:04 PM
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24. Jackson_Dem ...is that you?
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-05-08 01:00 PM
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20. IBTL but missed the pizza
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