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jezebel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-05-08 01:22 PM
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New NC and Ind. ARG polls. NC O50, C42. IND. C53 O 45
Edited on Mon May-05-08 01:23 PM by jezebel
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NC:
Barack Obama leads Hillary Clinton 54% to 39% among men (45% of likely Democratic primary voters). Among women, Obama leads 47% to 44%.

Clinton leads 62% to 27% among white voters (60% of likely Democratic primary voters). Obama leads 88% to 9% among African American voters (36% of likely Democratic primary voters).

Obama leads 55% to 37% among voters age 18 to 49 (51% of likely Democratic primary voters) and Clinton leads 48% to 45% among voters age 50 and older.

IND:
Barack Obama leads Hillary Clinton 51% to 47% among men (44% of likely Democratic primary voters). Among women, Clinton leads 58% to 40%.

Clinton leads 60% to 38% among white voters (84% of likely Democratic primary voters). Obama leads 90% to 8% among African American voters (12% of likely Democratic primary voters).

Obama leads 51% to 47% among voters age 18 to 49 (51% of likely Democratic primary voters) and Clinton leads 59% to 39% among voters age 50 and older.

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kennetha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-05-08 01:30 PM
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1. I see a Clinton Sweep coming
Because I think her support is understated in NC and IN -- especially in rural counties. Bill has been hitting the backroads bigtime. I think she wins both states by turning out voters from small town after small town. Hillary's secret weapon!
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Blondbostonian Donating Member (298 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-05-08 01:33 PM
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2. Put down the crack pipe
She loses NC and the nomination. We look forward to your support come the General Election.
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Tarc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-05-08 01:35 PM
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4. That is precisely the kind of smug elitism that sours many on Obama,
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Blondbostonian Donating Member (298 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-05-08 01:42 PM
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7. What a crock
All you know is what your campaign tells you.

1.5 million donors with an average donation close to 100 dollars each. A candidate and wife who come from middle and lower middle class backgrounds.

This elitism crap might work for your uneducated friends making less than 50K who don't want a black person in office, but here in reality, we're ready for a different candidate.

I was a Republican before Obama ran. I've now gone to 4 states and have helped the registration process down in Florida for the other lower ballot candidates.

Fuck you and your call of elitism. I'm sick of dumb voters who can't think their way past talking points.

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Pirate Smile Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-05-08 01:52 PM
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9. The idea that your view of a candidate would be determined by anonymous people
on the Internet is ridiculous. No matter what the Hillary supporters act like online, Hillary's own words and actions are why I view her how I do. I can't believe you truly let posters on an Internet forum influence how you actually view a candidate.
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Tarc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-05-08 02:14 PM
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12. You misunderstand
I already detest Obama, and believe him to be a weak candidate who should not get within spitting distance of the party's nomination. I hold that opinion completely independently of his supporters. That many of his supporters around here are a bunch of flaming assholes is just an unfortunate truth that doesn't help matters any.

Even if they were saints I would not think any better of Obama, though.
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-05-08 02:01 PM
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11. and proportionately there's just as much of it from Hill supporters.
And making judgments of a candidate based on his/her internet supporters is just silly
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Secret_Society Donating Member (466 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-05-08 01:33 PM
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3. Fingers crossed
But I think a split each winning a state by 8 points. The race continues.
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4_Legs_Good Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-05-08 01:38 PM
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6. Yeah, at this point I'm seeing them winning by equal margins in the opposing states
Obama by 7-10 in NC
Clinton by 7-10 in IN

And the race goes on.

Blast!

David
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-05-08 01:59 PM
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10. There is little indication of that. I don't understand being so unrealistic
I knew Obama would lose PA- I guessed by 12, it was 9. I'm just as sure that Obama will win NC by 10. I base my predictions on the total polling data and state demographics, not wishful thinking. That's why I see Obama losing IN by about 10 as well. There's nothing real to base your prediction on. What you want to see happen is always a poor platform for predictions.
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thewiseguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-05-08 01:37 PM
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5. Sorry but I cant trust ARG
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thevoiceofreason Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-05-08 01:44 PM
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8. Nice cross-tabs. NOT!
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