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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-05-08 01:37 PM
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Hillary Clinton Not Backing Down in North Carolina




GREENVILLE, N.C. -- Hillary Clinton began her final push in the Tar Heel state in Greenville this morning, carrying veiled criticism of her Democratic opponent and telling about 500 people that she has the experience for the White House.

"You don't hire a president to make speeches," Clinton said. "You hire a president to solve problems."

She gave her usual stump speech some last-day-of-campaigning fire, her voice hoarse but her audience full of enthusiastic supporters who shouted and applauded with just about every line.

She talked of how she would offer the same health care that members of Congress receive to every citizen in the country. She talked of herself as a commander-in-chief, saying she would end the war in Iraq and take care of vetersans.

And she not-so-subtly reminded voters that she's the candidate who has spent time in the White House, talking of her work with former President Bill Clinton and of how he left office with a budget surplus.

"Those of you who are undecided, I hope I'll be able to persuade you and earn your vote," Clinton said.







“We have some differences my opponent Sen. Obama and I, and those are perfectly legitimate. You know, no two people are alike, you can’t expect two people running for president to have exactly the same positions,” Clinton told supporters. (http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/05/05/clinton-more-conciliatory-on-final-day/)

“Of course once we have a nominee we’re going to close ranks and have a unified party because the differences between us as Democrats pale in comparison to the differences we have with Sen. McCain and the Republicans,” she added.

“Let’s listen to what people are telling us. I don’t think folks in Washington listen enough. Because if we listened, we would hear this incredible cry - ‘Please, just pay attention to what’s going on in our lives.’ You know what, I don’t think they do but I don’t think they know half the time.”







In her 30-minute speech in the gymnasium of Pitt Community College, she vowed to bring down energy costs and create jobs.

``It's not going to happen until we get the two oil men out of the White House,'' she said. She vowed to regulate energy traders, who she said are manipulating oil markets and driving up prices.

``My opponent says that's a gimmick,'' Clinton said of the gasoline-tax plan in an address to campaign volunteers. ``We need a president who can go up against the oil companies.''

She accused energy traders of manipulating markets and promised to bring a World Trade Organization complaint against oil exporters on antitrust grounds. She promoted her $10,000 tax credit for people who buy high-mileage hybrid cars, calling it part of her long-term solution to lower energy costs. She talked about meeting an Indiana pickup-truck owner who paid $63 for a half tank of gas.

``There are a lot of people who drive for a living,'' Clinton said. ``In a couple years I want you to buy a hybrid. But what's happening now undermines our standard of living.''







She again outlined the benefits of her gas-tax plan, ignoring critics who have challenged whether it will have any impact. (http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2008/05/05/981299.aspx)

"What I want to do is provide some immediate relief. I want the oil companies to pay the gas tax this summer out of their record profits, because they need to be part of the solution instead of part of the problem,” she said. "Sen. Obama doesn’t want to do anything."

Clinton also repeated her call for revising the tax code so that it "starts working for hard-working Americans," a point she often makes. But this time she made included to her own family's wealth in the process.

"We're gonna get rid of all the benefits that go to all the wealthiest of our fellow citizens," she told the audience of a few hundred at Pitt Community College. "You know, bless'em, they’ve been successful. My husband has been more successful than any of us could have dreamed. But we like to pay our fair share to support the federal government."







HIGH POINT, N.C. -- Hillary Clinton told supporters in this furniture hub Monday that as president she would be aggressive in promoting American trade interests.

Clinton, at her second stop of the day in North Carolina before her match-up Tuesday with Barack Obama in the state’s primary, called for renegotiating trade agreements. She singled out China, accusing the country of manipulating its currency, unfairly subsidizing its domestic companies and overlooking counterfeiting.

“I will get tough on China because what they are doing is not right,” Clinton said.







Many of the thousands of N.C. furniture jobs lost in the last decade have gone to China and other Asian countries, where labor costs are also lower.

Introducing Clinton, Gov. Mike Easley talked about the same theme.

“I don’t know about the rest of the candidates, but Hillary Clinton is not ready to surrender America’s economy to China just yet,” he said.

Their comments came at a downtown train depot, where about 200 people stood on a platform above the tracks. Freight trains interrupted both Clinton and Easley, and both made light of the setting.

“This lady is strong as train smoke,” Easley said.







In a Charlotte Observer op-ed, Hillary Clinton writes to voters in North Carolina:


It has been an honor and privilege to travel across North Carolina and talk to you about the issues that matter most to you and your families. I know how hard you're working, how much you love this country, and how big you dream for your children. But I also know that you're feeling squeezed from every direction -- between the grocery bills and the doctor's bills, the credit card bills and the mortgage payments, and the outrageous cost of gas at the pump.

With two wars abroad and an economic crisis here at home, you know the stakes are high and the challenges great. But you also know the possibilities are endless if we elect a president with the strength and knowledge to tackle our challenges starting on day one. A leader who knows how to create good jobs, turn our economy around, and lift up the middle class. A commander-in-chief who is ready to end the war in Iraq, keep our families safe, and take care of our veterans and service members.

After 35 years of experience fighting for those who've been counted out, after representing America in more than 80 countries around the world and working to unite Democrats and Republicans to solve problems at home and abroad -- I am ready to be that president.

We've got our work cut out for us. And it's not enough to just deliver speeches and make promises. You have to know what it takes -- and have what it takes -- to deliver solutions. That's what my campaign is about -- and that's what my presidency will be about as well.

I'll deliver solutions to create good jobs. Jobs rebuilding our crumbling infrastructure, 21st-century manufacturing jobs, jobs in new clean energy industries.







I'll deliver solutions to provide relief from high gas prices and end our dependence on foreign oil. I'm the only candidate who will provide commuters, truckers, business owners and families relief at the pump by making the big oil companies pay the gas tax instead of North Carolinians.

I'll deliver affordable, quality health care for every man, woman and child in America -- no exceptions, no excuses. I'm the only candidate that won't leave anyone out.

I'll deliver solutions for our economy. I'll end $55 billion in special breaks for the corporate special interests and give middle-class families $100 billion in tax cuts to help pay for health care and college and save for retirement. I'll get tough on China for breaking the trade rules -- and I'll only sign trade agreements that are good for our workers and our economy.

Finally, I'll end the war in Iraq and start bringing our troops home as quickly and responsibly as possible. And when our troops come home, we'll serve them with the same devotion that they served us.

Accomplishing all of this won't be easy. But I don't back down from a challenge -- and neither do the American people. It's up to all of us to keep the promise of America for the next generation, and together, that's exactly what we'll do.




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stray cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-05-08 01:41 PM
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1. She shouldn't back down because she really needs a win in NC
if she wants to change the balance at all
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-05-08 07:37 PM
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25. i think Obama is up against a wall himself tomorrow
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NJmaverick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-05-08 01:42 PM
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2. Some of these pictures demands a caption
Edited on Mon May-05-08 01:55 PM by nomad1776


SOON! Soon the Democratic party will be nothing but a smoking ruin. THEN I SHALL BE THEIR QUEEN






BWAH HA HA! I will destroy your puny party and all you liberal fools.
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MirrorAshes Donating Member (942 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-05-08 01:44 PM
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3. im sensing some sort of vague similarity here... what could it be?
Edited on Mon May-05-08 01:46 PM by MirrorAshes
oh...



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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-05-08 02:56 PM
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6. .
Edited on Mon May-05-08 03:19 PM by bigtree
.
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cboy4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-05-08 02:58 PM
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8. The Obama fans can't stop themselves....they are
so obsessed with disrupting any and all Hillary threads. :eyes:
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NJmaverick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-05-08 03:02 PM
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9. Obama supporters are beside themselves with the horrible and destructive behavior
of Hillary. They care about the party and the Country, not aquiring the nomination for Hillary
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cboy4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-05-08 03:07 PM
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11. Please tell me what her horrible and destructive behavior
is.

Because if you're talking about how her staying in the race has helped lead to a record number of Democratic registrations .. yea, that just awful.

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PBS Poll-435 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-05-08 03:16 PM
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13. And they post childish pictures to prove their love of country?
It just gets more ridiculous by the day.

:rofl::rofl::rofl:
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-05-08 07:46 PM
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34. could not be any worse than your behavior on this board.
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Hoof Hearted Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-05-08 09:11 PM
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45. Oh, the irony. I'll take that with
a GIANT grain of salt.


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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-05-08 07:41 PM
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30. more IMMATURE behavior.
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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-05-08 02:58 PM
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7. typical of her opposition to replace her words with their biased own
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-05-08 05:13 PM
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21. a couple of idiots is typical?
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-05-08 07:40 PM
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27. ah, the understatement of the day.
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enid602 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-05-08 03:22 PM
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15. how come
How come you guys can call Hillary a queen, but we can't call Michelle a princess?
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-05-08 07:48 PM
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36. Because she is the lovely wife of Obama--off limits.
:sarcasm:
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-05-08 07:39 PM
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26. and more HS school-yard bully behavior from the Obama crowd!!
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MirrorAshes Donating Member (942 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-05-08 10:22 PM
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47. but wait, isn't Hill-Rod the "fighter"? If you can't take a joke on the internet...
you're the one with the glass jaw.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 08:59 AM
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52. Rude disruption of a postitive thread is what it is.
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peaches2003 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 11:01 AM
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55. Sorry, NC, but you got the cheap version of Hillary
Dress Barn suit and no Botox. Guess that tells you what she thinks of NC. :rofl:
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anigbrowl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-05-08 01:45 PM
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4. Nice photos, but I don't find her arguments very persuasive
Don't want to write a pile of negative stuff about what I think of her speech, so I'll leave it at that.
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Texas Hill Country Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-05-08 01:47 PM
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5. k&r
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Lucky 13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-05-08 03:06 PM
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10. Nice post again bigtree. I have a problem one thing she said, though.
``It's not going to happen until we get the two oil men out of the White House,'' she said. She vowed to regulate energy traders, who she said are manipulating oil markets and driving up prices.

``My opponent says that's a gimmick,'' Clinton said of the gasoline-tax plan in an address to campaign volunteers. ``We need a president who can go up against the oil companies.''



She is twisting words again. He's not saying going up against the oil companies is a gimmick, he's saying the GAS TAX is a gimmick and so are thousands of economists. It is widely accepted that this is an unwise idea and is based on something other than sound economic principles.
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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-05-08 03:14 PM
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12. He does indeed have a plan to tax their windfall profits
. . . and apply that money to low-income energy grants.

But, I haven't heard much about his plan to directly confront the traders and the oil industry over their refusal to apply these record profits to remedying the problems they say have led to the higher prices. And I'm not hearing anything on the stump from Sen. Obama about investigating the price-gouging that Sen. Clinton believes is driving prices upward.

Any info on those?
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PBS Poll-435 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-05-08 03:17 PM
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14. K&R. Nice Job!
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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-05-08 03:36 PM
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16. thanks!
:hi:
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Beacool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-05-08 04:53 PM
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17. Lovely!!
Thank you!!
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hogwyld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-05-08 04:57 PM
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18. Nice job BigTree!
Even though we support different candidates, I always admire your fair, positive posts. It's nice to have the occasional shelter from the raining crap thrown by BOTH sides.
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peaches2003 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-05-08 05:01 PM
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19. I love when she talks about her WH triumphs
Especially when she talks about how successful she was in the one and only project she ever really was given to do- reform health care. Oh, that's right. She forgets to mention it and how she single handedly made the whole issue blow up because she was arrogant and a dictator and the country rejected her brilliance.
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goclark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-05-08 07:40 PM
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29. She has not changed but we have changed enough to know
that she LIES.

And we know she was always arrogant and that is really what made her Health Care Plan fail.

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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-05-08 07:45 PM
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33. After that effort failed which was push by REPUGS and witless Democrats she
went right to work on the Children's health insurance proposal.

She has said many times it failed. The country knows it failed.

Not necessary to repeat whereever she goes. Of course some dimwit Obama fans would like to here her say if over and over. You show how childish you are with simple minded posts.
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peaches2003 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-05-08 09:30 PM
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46. No, she is presently talking as an authority on health care,
when in fact we probably would already have universal health care if she hadn't made such an arrogant mess of it that it couldn't be attempted again in the 8 Clinton years. She was in total 100% charge of the whole fiasco, so don't go blaming it on witless Democrats. It was her fault and her failure, so why now should we think she has the answers? Just because she says so?
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-05-08 05:12 PM
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20. k and r
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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-05-08 07:08 PM
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22. kick
:kick:
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Iceburg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-05-08 07:34 PM
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23. Many thanks Bigtree /nt
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boppers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-05-08 07:37 PM
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24. Why do Clinton supporters always pick the worst pictures of her?
:evilgrin:
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-05-08 07:55 PM
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39. prob. from the AP photo gallery. I like the bottom

one best.



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susankh4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-05-08 07:40 PM
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28. Another fabulous job, Bigtree!
Go Hillary!



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DemGa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-05-08 07:41 PM
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31. Hillary looks like she's thriving on this contest -- great post --NT
Edited on Mon May-05-08 07:47 PM by DemGa
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-05-08 08:32 PM
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42. she thrives on the interactions and the crowds.
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Arkansas Granny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-05-08 07:44 PM
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32. Great pictures, bigtree. She's never backed down before, no reason to start now.
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thesuperintendent Donating Member (5 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-05-08 07:47 PM
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35. She's close in the latest SUSA poll
5% only. Go mama!
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-05-08 07:50 PM
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37. REC
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RBInMaine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-05-08 07:51 PM
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38. TIRED SAME OLD SAME OLD RHETORIC ABOUT "just giving speeches" etc. Get a new stump speech Hilly.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-05-08 07:56 PM
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40. tell obama to do something different.
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Condem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-05-08 08:35 PM
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43. Hey, rodeo
Just got my gas tax credit. I spent it on a case of Old Style.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 09:01 AM
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53. some will spend it on needed food. Mocking people who are poor makes you look foolish
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JAbuchan08 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 11:18 AM
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56. wow is old style that cheap?
I was thinking of buying a soda, or maybe a piece of gum with my massive savings.
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annie1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-05-08 08:03 PM
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41. love it. thanks
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RazBerryBeret Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-05-08 08:51 PM
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44. good update.
great post & photos--as always, bigtree!
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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 01:11 AM
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48. ....
:thumbsup:
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ccharles000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 01:27 AM
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49. I hope she wins here.
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ccharles000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 01:27 AM
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50. I hope she wins here.
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Nutmegger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 01:31 AM
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51. R&K [n\t]
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Alcibiades Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 09:01 AM
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54. Clinton wins NC!
It's so obvious, she is the nominee. It's inevitable.

No need to go and vote. No need to canvass. Stay at your keyboard.

Me, I'm going to GOTV for Obama right now.
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alcibiades_mystery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 11:23 AM
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57. They won't back DOOOOOOOOOWN!
:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/story/20626517/hillarys_bitter_victory/print

In the meantime, one thing about this contest can be said with absolute surety: Everyone involved has lost their minds. For Clinton supporters, the race has taken on a meaning that transcends politics. One gets the sense that Hillary's campaign has become an idée fixe for any Democrat of a certain type who has ever been fucked around or disrespected or abused or disappointed. Far more than any policy position, it is Hillary's "fight to the finish" mantra that is reaching her supporters on some elemental level that is hard for outsiders to comprehend.

Her campaign has become a symbol of not giving in to those who would wish us to surrender, of defying the smug assessments of those who think they know better, of not letting someone else's diminished expectations for us — maybe those of a boss, maybe an ex-boyfriend or ex-wife, maybe a Madison Avenue ad world that tells us we have to look a certain way/age to be worth loving — rule the day. I would say that Hillary is the electoral incarnation of a Gloria Gaynor song, but Gloria Gaynor is too campy and even a little bit too black for this crowd; the vibe at Hillary events feels more like nostalgic white suburban angst, a numbing misery of a type that runs deep enough it can hear the same song over and over again in the car on the way to work for 20 consecutive years and yet still sing along to it, lips pursed defiantly in Billy Crystal's white-man's overbite, when it hears it twice, three times, even four times in the same hour. In other words, this Hillary campaign is basically Tom Petty's "I Won't Back Down" running for president.

If you're the kind of person who's ready to throw a chair through a window if you hear that fucking song even one more time, you're not going to get this Hillary thing. More to the point, you're not going to fit in with these crowds, which are full of featureless, angry faces, faces of the type that all us smug cleverati in the media think can be ignored, faces that have been going to boring-ass jobs every day and taking one crappy vacation a year to Puerto Vallarta and running a treadmill three times a week to help their spouses find sex with them more tolerable — you see, there we go, making jokes about them again! See, we can laugh all we want, but they won't . . . back . . . down! THEY WON'T! BACK! DOWWWWWWWN!
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