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book_worm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-05-08 03:22 PM
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Insider Advantage Poll: close race in NC & IN/ PPP poll: Obama up by 10 in NC Hill up 5 in Ind
Edited on Mon May-05-08 04:04 PM by book_worm

Public Policy Polling (PPP) gives Obama a 10-point lead in NC: 53-43. Obama leads 84-11 among black voters and Clinton leads 60-34 among white voters.


http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/pdf/PPP_Release_050608.pdf

In Indiana, PPP shows Obama making a modest gain since their previous poll (50-42), now Clinton is up 51-46. "The main movement since then comes from Obama shoring up his support with black voters. Last week he led 73-21 with them, now the tally is 81-13."

http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/pdf/PPP_Indiana_Release_050508.pdf

Insider Advantage Poll numbers:

North Carolina:

Obama: 48.4%
Clinton: 44.5%
Undecided: 7.1%

18-29: 50-43 Obama
30-44: 55-41 Obama
45-64 50-42 Obama
65 Plus 53-39 Clinton

White: 59-33 Clinton
Black: 79-18 Obama

Male: 50-44 Obama
Female: 49-45 Obama

http://www.insideradvantagegeorgia.com/Sunday%20NC%20poll.pdf

Indiana:

Clinton: 47.6%
Obama: 44.2%
Undecided 8.2%

18-29: 64-32 Obama
30-44 49-48 Obama
45-64 46-38 Clinton
65-plus: 64-30

Male: 51-45 Obama
Female: 50-39 Clinton

White: 54-41 Clinton
Black: 80-4 Obama

http://www.insideradvantagegeorgia.com/Indiana%20crosstabs.pdf
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democrattotheend Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-05-08 03:27 PM
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1. Interesting IN numbers
One encouraging sign (maybe) in the Indiana poll is that a lot more blacks than whites remain undecided. That could mean that the undecideds break for him this time, unless Wright hurt his standing among black voters.

These polls strike me as odd though...closer that they should be in both states. I guess I'd be ok with this result...disappointing finish in NC but better than expected in IN. But part of me says he'd be better off if the margin were wider in both places, unless he won IN outright.
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book_worm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-05-08 03:32 PM
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2. Yes, I was just thinking about that.
I think NC will be better than this. All the polls show it tightening with Obama up.
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Zynx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-05-08 03:32 PM
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3. The thing about Indiana is that the black vote is relatively tiny compared to NC.
It's the smallest of any state that's had a primary since Vermont and Rhode Island.
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book_worm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-05-08 03:37 PM
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7. It's about 10-12% of the total vote.
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Zynx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-05-08 04:13 PM
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11. Which refutes nothing I said.
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book_worm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-05-08 04:26 PM
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13. nobody was refuting what you said just giving a percentage.
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MadBadger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-05-08 03:34 PM
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4. I dont trust either.
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Austinitis Donating Member (726 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-05-08 03:34 PM
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5. I think there's something wrong with both numbers.
But who knows? Polls for the last few days have been all over the place.
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BenDavid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-05-08 03:35 PM
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6. HRC is happy and happy as she was the day before Pa. and that
does not bode well for obama. Not saying she will win N.C. but it will be a lower bargain of win for obama which will make eyes open wider, and HRC doing rather well in the internals of Indiana. So, it should be a good evening for HRC.....and obama is looking for a caucus, anywhere, anyplace...
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book_worm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-05-08 04:05 PM
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8. kick with PPP numbers for NC and IN
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MadBadger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-05-08 04:08 PM
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9. PPP and IA have late deciders going to Obama in Indiana
Obama +4 and Hillary +1 in Both Indiana Polls
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book_worm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-05-08 04:12 PM
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10. I hope it continues.
I think NC will be Obama by 8-10 points in the end (maybe more)--all the polls are consistent he is leading. I think Indiana will come down to turnout and where.
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MadBadger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-05-08 04:14 PM
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12. I just hope its true
Cuz SUSA obviously sees things differently.
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book_worm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-05-08 04:27 PM
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14. They always see things differently.
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MadBadger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-05-08 04:28 PM
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15. They do. And sometimes they are dead on (California), and sometimes they are awful (Missouri)
Hopin for a Missouri.
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Zynx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-05-08 04:29 PM
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16. I will say that their accuracy has been pretty good so far this cycle so I would
have a hard time simply dismissing their results. I don't really care for the predictions game any more myself. We'll have results in about 27 hours and then we'll actually have something we can use.
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jefferson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-05-08 04:39 PM
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17. According to PPP, Obama leads early voting 63/34. Those planning to vote tomorrow are split 46/45.
Edited on Mon May-05-08 04:41 PM by jefferson_dem
First, thank goodness for early voting. Almost 500,000 votes are in the bank!

Second, the final spread may actually be wider than reported because early voters (more pro-Obama) have already been cast while those planning to vote tomorrow (more pro-Hillary) may or may not actually do so.

EDIT: This is regarding NC.
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book_worm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-05-08 04:46 PM
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19. That's good. I hope late deciders will go for Obama, too.
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jefferson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-05-08 04:44 PM
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18. NC SUSA POLL: Obama 50 (+1), Hillary 45 (+1)
Edited on Mon May-05-08 04:47 PM by jefferson_dem
Obama wins AA vote 85/12, loses white vote 62/32. AA represent 32% of voters. Let's hope it's higher than that.

http://www.surveyusa.com/client/PollReport.aspx?g=06dd4624-776e-440d-811a-79584a511f2f
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IronLionZion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-05-08 04:47 PM
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20. Just want to note that NC has 115 delegates, Indiana has 72.
I'm only saying this because I'm sexist.

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jefferson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-05-08 04:48 PM
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21. Pig!
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IronLionZion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-05-08 04:50 PM
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22. all up in it loving it strong!
you better believe it



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book_worm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-05-08 04:50 PM
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23. I just read that Obama picked up two Maryland supers today--the chairman and vice chairman
of the MD Dem party!!

273 more delegates to go!
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Zachstar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-05-08 05:29 PM
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24. He needs to try to keep her win under 5 in Indiana and try to stretch his win in NC to 15
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