Iranian people troubled by Hillary's "obliterate" comment.

[Avalux]

Seems the primaries are of great interest over there; they've been paying close attention. NPR on-location reporter stated today he's heard from ordinary Iranians that they are not happy and upset with what Hillary is saying she'll do to them.

That's what everyone needs to remember. Obliterate means nothing is left. The innocent people die.

[99th_Monkey]

1. As well they should be. Color me "surprised". ~nt~

[janetle]

2. Remember the other obliterate comment?

Supposedly made by a certain leader of that certain nation and it was about wiping Israel off the face of the map?? What is the difference?

[Avalux]

4. I don't even know how to respond to such an absurd comment.

So that makes it OK for Hillary to say what she did? :rofl:

[janetle]

17. Of course not--that's my point

It is wrong for anyone to go around saying we should obliterate another nation. And yes, I know that the wiping Israel off the map statement was disproved--that is why I used the word "supposedly."

When people thought Amhedinejad said this, the reaction was that it was a terrible terrible thing to say.

When Hillary actually referred to obliterating Iran, I thought it was a terrible terrible thing to say.

[janetle]

19. Sorry I was vague.

[anigbrowl]

6. Yeah, we really need to give them an excuse to re-elect Ahmedinejad

Whereas if Obama becomes pres, I think we'll see the back of him pretty soon. ecall that Iran had a moderate president a few years back, but then Bush had to go and give that dumbass 'axis of evil' speech. So they elected an Iranian version o Bush to show that they could play that game as well as we could. He's not all that popular.

[Quixote1818]

7. He never actually said that. His words were twisted by Rush and Hannity. nt

[Overseas]

23. That "other nation" has never used atomic weapons on civilians

Only the USA has done that. http://faculty.ucmerced.edu/smalloy/atomic_tragedy/photos.html

[kimmerspixelated]

3. Who can blame them?

Man, that was the worst, ever comment from her! Not even Bush has said "Obliterate". I can't believe she didn't completely die in the polls!

[Quixote1818]

5. It's disgusting that she would say something so Republican sounding.

and only for political gain. :puke: She is some piece of work.

[The Night Owl]

8. I can't imagine that the Pakistanis were comforted by Barack Obama's suggestion that...

...he, as president, might bomb them at any given moment.

[Avalux]

9. Tactical bombing of bad guys is a lot different than obliteration. n/t

[Iceburg]

14. Unilateral pre-emptive bombing (which he was advocating) is worse than

a retalitory strike (which she was advocating)

Obama has Bush's brains.

[thewiseguy]

18. Forgot about 9/11? There is nothing unilateral or pre-emptive about going after Al Qaeda in Pakistan

And I was talking about the tactical strikes.

[Leopolds Ghost]

25. We currently ARE bombing AQ in Pakistan with Pakistan's permission.

:shrug:

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

10. It'll be "for the children". Well, the comment was for the adoelscents in America.

“What difference does it make to the dead, the orphans and the homeless, whether the mad destruction is wrought under the name of totalitarianism or the holy name of liberty or democracy.” - Gandhi

[invictus]

11. Hillary's threat just gave Iran the best reason ever to develop nuclear weapons. n/t

[Vattel]

12. Genuine question:

What should the U.S. policy be with regards to how we respond to a nuclear attack on Israel?

[The Night Owl]

15. {sound of crickets chirping at the Obama camp}

[Yurovsky]

16. Israel would certainly respond in kind...

not sure the US would even need to get involved. Israel isn't helpless.

[The Night Owl]

20. Israel is far from helpless, but it may lack the kinds of weapons required to...

...penetrate the deep underground bunkers which Iranian leaders would no doubt be operating in were they to wage war against Israel.

Of course, all of this is pointless speculation. We know that the Iranian leadership is bellicose, but we do not have any indication that they are suicidal.

[Overseas]

24. There will not be a nuclear attack on them -- they have tons of nukes

Somehow, Mutually Assured Destruction, "MAD," has worked for many decades. Israel has many of their own nuclear weapons. Anyone who attacked them with nukes would probably be nuked right back, hence they are deterred. Many world citizens have also been taught about the devastation wrought by the US use of nuclear weapons on the civilian populations of Hiroshima and Nagasaki. They have a gut level grasp of what even little nuclear weapons like those the USA used on the Japanese people can do. We are the only country that has bombed civilian populations with nuclear weapons and we are mostly shown abstract mushroom cloud photos, while other countries are more likely to have read the eyewitness accounts and seen more of the photographic evidence.

[PoliticalAmazon]

13. I know a family in Iran. Yes, they are "troubed" and insulted...

...because no one in government or in the political parties has shut Hillary down for it.

It's a different society and mindset, but (as I undertand it) basically it's like an undeserved slap in the face that has not been followed by an apology or a rebuttal from other Americans of power.

[olkaz]

21. FACT: Hillary made the American people pay MORE for gas with her 'obliterate' comment.

So much for a tax holiday, when she's raising the price with incredibly inflammatory statements, right?

[Overseas]

22. Please view the effects of the little bombs dropped on Hiroshima and Nagasaki

Those effects are not abstract to the Japanese people, or any international citizens who have looked over the photographs and read the accounts of witnesses to those little nuclear weapons the USA tested on the citizens of Hiroshima and Nagasaki. That knowledge should be a part of every American student's education. It may just be that the Iranians have seen the actual gore that resulted from previous nuclear use by the USA. Those bombs killed HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF JAPANESE CIVILIANS-- incinerating some and melting the flesh from the bones of others and serving up birth defects for subsequent generations. Here are some photos taken at the time http://faculty.ucmerced.edu/smalloy/atomic_tragedy/photos.html .. Not an abstract awesome mushroom cloud photo from a nuclear test in the desert. The results of bombs dropped on urban centers that melted or incinerated the flesh of hundreds of thousands of people. The USA has done that. Over there. On those Japanese people. If a prominent US politician threatened your country with nukes and had already invaded a neighboring country under false pretenses, how would you feel?