I am completely good with Obama's pastor, Rev. Jeremiah Wright, belittling JFK

[bridgit]

by way of mimic. If we are to move beyond the mainstays of the past and into a world of 'hope & change'; then we *must* be prepared to realign our icons with what is perceived to be new, fresh, fly icons :thumbsup:

[CakeGrrl]

1. And exactly what does Wright's mimicry have to do with Obama?

Apart from the fact that he was making a salient point about linguistics, he was not speaking on Obama's behalf, yet people keep wanting to equate Wright's statements with Obama's position. Why?

[bridgit]

2. "a salient point about linguistics"? Are you shitting me?

To make such an aspersion against any person is considered stoo'pit at best :eyes: Not to mention a guy that had is head shot to pieces for trying to do what is right

[CakeGrrl]

5. Eddie Izzard used JFK's "Ich bin ein Berliner" line in a joke

To make the point that JFK literally told the German people that he was a doughnut. Should we pull out the knives for him for defiling an historical icon?

:eyes:

I'm guessing you won't be receptive to the CONTEXT in which Wright mimicked the JFK accent since your OP makes the reach to continue to link the two men to prop up the 'guilt by association' charge in the first place. Obama isn't calling for anyone to make fun of historical icons, much as you'd like to imply otherwise.

[bridgit]

8. Eddie Izzard is a wordy comdedian...and thankfully not running for POTUS...

;)

[CakeGrrl]

13. And neither is Wright, if I recall correctly. What was the point of the OP again?

[NYCGirl]

7. How disgusting to point out that JFK had a regional accent!

:eyes:

[bridgit]

16. No, no, no, no, no...it was the most false of "regional accents", Wright only *thinks*...

he's a player...he's a pastor by his own say-so. Not an actor that I would pay 2-bits to see on a stage somewhere. THAT...was ridicule. And it is well past time for DU to suck-it-up like buttermilk and wrap their heads around it period

[NYCGirl]

65. Mayor Quimby on The Simpsons must really make you crazy! NT

[Justitia]

3. Oh Good Lord, what a desperate stretch. -eom

[bridgit]

10. The more desperate stretch was Wright's...

sorry

[scheming daemons]

17. WRIGHT IS NOT RUNNING FOR PRESIDENT

[bridgit]

21. No, his parishioner is...

[Justitia]

22. Uh, so? Our Last Impeached President's freaking wife is running for his old job.

Bit more relevant if we are talking up associations and all.

[bridgit]

24. So...you fell for all that RW shit about impeachment?

Good for you, keep up the good work :thumbsup:

[Justitia]

25. You mean how Clinton LIED UNDER OATH, dragging us into a Constitutional crisis?

Losing the White House and both houses of Congress for the next 12 years?

All to cover his lying ass at the expense of everyone else?

Yeah, I remember every painful, self-centered, humiliating little bit of it.

I'm not nearly as fucking blind or stupid as Hillary or her supporters.

[bridgit]

26. Shouldn't you be over at freeperville er'somethin?

I voted for that hill billy shit-head twice, as did many here waaaaay back when...what is your fucking point?

[Justitia]

27. I'm a REAL Democrat, one who doesn't throw The Party under the bus for one stupid man.

See, the Democratic Party means more than just the word "Clinton", no matter how much they try to destroy it.

The Clintons don't give a flying fuck about The Party, only themselves. That was evident waaaayyyyy back when.

[Skittles]

29. don't tell people what REAL Democrats are

YOU HAVE NO IDEA

[Justitia]

32. And I'm supposed to take being called a "freeper" by people who want to destroy My Party?

Fuck that, them and the horse they rode in on.

[bridgit]

39. Got that covered too...

But if the shoe fits it's your's to wear

[Justitia]

44. Calling people "freepers" is not accepted at DU, don't you know that?

And I certainly won't take that bullshit from anyone, least of all people who suck up to the right wing in order to destroy Our Party from the inside out.

Take your Rev Wright and freeper bullshit elsewhere. After all, you still call yourself a Catholic and YOUR church is banging little kids, right?

[bridgit]

47. Bullshit! People do it here all the time...

:eyes:

[Justitia]

50. Wrong - Ignorance is no defense. Acquaint yourself w/the Rules page...

"Do not publicly accuse another member of this message board of being a disruptor, conservative, Republican, FReeper, or troll, or do not otherwise imply they are not welcome on Democratic Underground. If you think someone is a disruptor, click the "Alert" link below their post to let the moderators know."

[bridgit]

51. Um hm, then why weren't the people that accused me like-wise TS's?

Riddle me that

[Justitia]

52. Take it up with the moderators, and quit calling people "freepers" yourself. -eom

[bridgit]

54. The mods do what they do, I as well speak upon matters with others...

This is America...you can't deal? Move where you will, I like it here in spite of all the smack-talk :thumbsup:

[Justitia]

57. This isn't "America", this is a private msg board - you don't know the difference?

And I come here so I don't have to put up with RW bullshit like you've been abusing this board with.
I don't hang out on RW sites by choice.

So, deal.

[Kahuna]

61. This is America, except that Rev. Wright and Obama are treated like

communist conspirators in the 50s, BY YOU! :crazy: Let 'em go on long enough and they always expose their own hypocrisy.

[bridgit]

34. Mmmm, groovy, and I come from a family that has voted dem my entire lifetime =

whatever :eyes:

[kid a]

28. they're too obsessed with religion and pastors for me over there...

when newt, bill o, limpdick, scaif, ken star, glen beck, lou dobbs, and hannity start telling their idiots to vote for obama, call me

[bridgit]

37. Well now that I agree with. When Newt & Pelosi sit on the same bench regarding anything!!

The end is near :nuke: Well, maybe not nukes but you get my point :thumbsup:

[kid a]

43. i get that you see black and white (literally and figuratively)

i guess this stuff is just over your head

[bridgit]

48. You are not able to absorb the textural nature of my life, I will therefore waste...

neither of our times

[Name removed]

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[Kahuna]

60. Not to mention delivering the White House to bush. nt

[kid a]

31. so...you fell for all that RW shit about religion?

can't you see the insanity of your argument?

[bridgit]

35. I'm a Catholic...what's your point?

[kid a]

41. than you should know better than to be so judgmental and spiritually shallow

wright's behavior has nothing to do with the obama

for you to obsess on wright and continue to follow the freeper mentality exposes you as a either ignorant or very gullible

[FrenchieCat]

4. Well, I'm glad that you are over it.

cause I'm still pissed at Hillary, etal.

"there are some whites who are probably not ready to vote for an African-American candidate"


"Jesse Jackson ran a good campaign. And Obama ran a good campaign here."



"He happens to be very lucky to be who he is. And the country is caught up in the concept.”


"there's a difference between denouncing and rejecting."


denouncing and rejecting This guy

Ed Rendel Endorses Louis Farrakhan, same guy Hillary wanted Obama to denounce and renounce

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DXum_-8I1TA

[bridgit]

6. Oh yeah! I hear'ya...

Time to move on...to wherever that is :thumbsup:

[FrenchieCat]

9. I'm staying right here......

for now.

[bridgit]

12. I got'cha, Hon. this shit is so clustered we're better left right here...

till it's over ;)

[cali]

11. why you'd care enough to post this silly

comment is beyond me. I can only assume that you're posting it to get in a gratuitous bash at Obama. That says plenty.

[bridgit]

14. People have their heroes, my darling one, Caroline is an Obama supporter...

You should be emailing her to ascertain her sense of what that shit...and I do mean shit, was all about

[cali]

33. Why on earth should I be emailing Caroline?

I suspect that didn't phase her at all. She's been through so much real drama, I'd guess she has no inclination for indulging in melodramatic bullshit such as you're peddling. Caroline isn't supporting Jeremiah Wright. Neither am I. Carry on with this inanity. Have fun.

[bridgit]

38. "She's been through so much real drama"...you just made HRC's argument...

Cool :hippie:

[cali]

42. oh, please. Hilllary has not experienced anything like the tragedy

or drama that Caroline has. And most of Hill's drama is melodrama and self-created. try again.

[bridgit]

46. Neither has BHO

:shrug:

[cali]

49. straw man. I never said he did.

[bridgit]

53. Fair enough...fair as it gets...

[barack the house]

15. All it was, was poor impersonation. It's just media trying to blame the worlds sins on Obama

It's all insane.

[bridgit]

19. Most agreed, a poor (to be as kind as possible) impersonation indeed...

:thumbsup:

[The Night Owl]

59. Uh, no. Jeremiah Wright's impersonation of JFK was mockery intended to embarrass Barack Obama. {EOM}

[Hoof Hearted]

69. That's a tight circle there.

[hokies4ever]

18. last throes of the Hillary campaign

elicits these types of comments from her supporters. Just submit peacefully already and all will be well. Ten years from now a street near your home might be named after Obama finishes his two terms as President. Your grandchildren might even go to a Barack H. Obama High School. When Hillary goes on speaking engagements people will want to know what it was like to shake the hand of President Obama.

[FrenchieCat]

20. And his former pastor will be nothing more than a distant Genifer Flowers Memory.

[bridgit]

23. Thank you, Frenchie, we await the day...

:patriot:

[Skittles]

30. this makes no f***ing sense to me n/t

[bridgit]

36. n/t

[Skittles]

55. neither does that

N / T

[bridgit]

56. k...

[McCamy Taylor]

40. I would be good with him criticizing him. Imitating him is not belittling him.

He was a very entertaining speaker. They should give him a TV show. I will bet he packs them in to his church. There is nothing wrong with that...but Obama will not be able to use the "I slept through Church" excuse.

[bridgit]

45. I understand what you're saying, and you're being most kind, but...

and this is only an overview with respect to imitating regional dialectic, still...when a witness at the OJ trial said they heard a black voice? Johnny Cochran splintered most profoundly, most eloquently, most laden with gravitas up and into the air berating then not merely the court: but the witness, and all within his sound of his voice, which was vast; that to assert such a thing was beyond what is acceptable in civil matters. That it is not possible to ascertain the origin of a persons nationality, or ethnic origin by hearing what one thought one heard based upon what he aspersed from a position of distance, and yes, perhaps even...bigotry.

I'm going to follow Johnny Cochran on this one

[Ed76638]

62. Rev. Jeremiah Wright is a linguist

His intention was not to mock JFK, but to highlight different speech patterens. He knows what the fuck he's talking about.

[Vinca]

63. Obama could shove Rev. Wright off the Sears Tower and it wouldn't

be good enough for you. You'll never be able to withstand scrutiny of Hillary if she steals the nomination. She's been given a foolishly large pass in this primary by both the opposing candidates and the media.

[FlaGranny]

64. It wasn't belittling,

it was mimicry, i.e., imitation, to illustrate a point.

Watch out Rich Little.

[MyNameGoesHere]

66. Whoohoo! Who's next? FDR? Who is the next Democratic hero

we can stomp on to further the egomania of the rev w<R>ight?

[babylonsister]

67. So how do you feel about Clinton aligning herself with a family member

who is a womanizer and adulterer? Is that okay? :popcorn: Family rules, can't pick 'em, supposedly, which is also a bunch of hogwash in her case. If you want to play this game, who's worse?

[IsItJustMe]

68. Fake outrage anyone? How dare he. LOL