Pat Buchanan just said re: Rev. Wright: "It'll be showtime at the Apollo"

[EffieBlack]

Yeah - he said that.

[ruby slippers]

1. I heard that, too. (CNN has poor audio feed so I switched to Coffee's dumb show)

[DemVet]

2. Did you actually think this issue was ever going to go away?

It's not...it's not even begun in earnest.

[ellacott]

8. So Showtime at the Apollo is fine

Most folks understand that it's not going away. I don't think that was the point of the OP.

[hokies4ever]

12. Lucky that Obama has some class

or else Monica's blue dress would be front and center. You think the Republicans wouldn't remind everybody about it if Hillary was the frontrunner?

[hell-bent]

67. Living through Bill's penis again?

You and the Repukes sure must have a rather dull sex life as you are compelled to bring up Clinton's penis in discussions. Living vicariously through Bill's sex life? Do you get off on thinking about those stains on the blue dress? :puke:

[gal]

85. That topic goes with one of the nominees.

Sorry you can't swallow that.

[EffieBlack]

25. Whoosh!!!

[TahitiNut]

71. It's pitiful, isn't it?

The toxicity appalls me. :puke:

[Triana]

28. Yea we should vote for Hillary so we can get rid of the racism in the country..

...eh? Especially the campaign her and Bill have entirely built using race and class as divisive issues.

Yea, vote for Hillary. THAT'll "fix" the problem. Won't it?

[knixphan]

76. exactly, Triana

[cliffordu]

81. DING DING DING We have a winner!!!

Precisely.

[Hepburn]

38. So you approve of his racist statement?

Figures...:puke:

[hell-bent]

69. Why don't you and your Scottie

share a dog biscuit?

[DemVet]

93. Uh...we're talking about Wright here...did you realize that?

He's the one that is the racist.

[Celeborn Skywalker]

61. You're not fooling anyone,

"Dem"vet. I can't wait until you get served your pizza.

[DemVet]

91. Until then, if it comes, I'll continue to eat your lunch.

[Political Heretic]

74. It won't go away in the media. But it's never resonated significantly with voters.

The beautiful thing about the media blowing its wad this early and having it fizzle with the public (this, based on Obama's favorables among white voters, which only fluctuated by 5% and have continued to increase, and direct polling saying that Rev. Wright was not a significant issue) is that it pretty much takes all the wind out of the story for the future.

Of course it will keep being mentioned, but it just isn't resonating. So talk all you want about it, it doesn't matter.

[DemVet]

92. One word....Pennsylvania

[babylonsister]

3. They all must be so bored with this conversation.

Bad Barack, good Hillary! I so hope that fat lady is piercingly screeching in all their collective ears tonight, and see them try to spin that. They are BOR-ing!

[SoCalDem]

4. And GE proudly sends him a regular check..n/t

[livetohike]

5. Time for another e-mail to MSNBC

I don't know why they employ him. He looks as tired as his old politics.

[SoCalDem]

6. MSNBC..not CNN..they have Beck

[livetohike]

9. Still asleep I guess

Thanks! :hi:

[ruby slippers]

7. just send them this whole thread........

or send it to Dan Abrams for his Beat the Press segment....

[livetohike]

Good idea

:hi:

[ruby slippers]

14. sent it.....and sent it to CNN and Washington Post Milbank, too....

and about five MSNBC email boxes.....

Racist remarks got IMUS fired, remember?

[Vinca]

10. Was Pat wearing his sheet? nt

[jaxx]

20. He put it on a couple minutes ago.

An African-American. He's not like us. Hillary is like us.

Gimme the plastic and the duct tape....I've found a use for it.

[SoCalDem]

21. It's sad that networks feel fine about having their resident bigots & racists.

But they have to have a pleasing demeanor, smile a lot, and laugh..and then pretend to be kidding around... hey.. wasn;t that waht IMUS was doing :)

CNN has Beck & Lou Dobbs

MSNBC has Joe, Pat, Barnicle and some regular "guests"..

[goclark]

32. Guests like Rachael that is1000x's better than these criminals

Guests that have to be told when to speak and then have their words defined by Pat B. who forgot to show us his Card/Cape before he speaks.

America deserves better than this ~ America deserves to hear pts. of view from all sides but this should be against FCC rules.

Where are the rules for FAIR and BALANCED?

[blogslut]

11. Gad, that man makes me queasy

~shudder~

[JimGinPA]

13. Russert: "Chris Rock Asks 'Who Ever Heard Of A Superdelegate Before A Black Guy Was In The Race?'"

:rofl:

I flipped over to M$NBC 3 times this morning & either Buchanan or Morning Joke was bashing Obama. After CNN got their audio fixed I just left it there.

[ruby slippers]

15. CNN audio is fixed? Great! Time for me to switch back to them, too......

THANKS!

[PurityOfEssence]

47. Gary Hart

1984 was an unmitigated disaster.

[shadowknows69]

16. It's my fervent wish that I'll live to see the day the last old bigot dies.

[KittyWampus]

17. someone should create a youtube of Pat's 5 most racist comments so we could loop it

and try our best to humiliate.

[babylonsister]

26. OT: you wanted to see this...

not the full segment, but you'll get the idea.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=385x127975

[uponit7771]

53. ..and then bounce the vid to get hit count up.

[City Lights]

18. I'm starting to despise M$NBC (with the exception of Countdown) almost

as much as I despise Fux Noise.

[ruby slippers]

19. ditto......I watch CNN during the daytime anymore and don't switch to MSNBC until after 7

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[ruby slippers]

23. OMG, the two black guests now are teasing Joe about taking over his job....

the email must have got there......now who is laughing?

[EffieBlack]

27. And then they tried to educate Joe on a couple of things

And then Joe got David Axelrod on the phone quick to get shift the white/black ratio back to his comfort zone. :-)

Well - it was nice to see two black people at the same time.

The fact that it's such a big deal is very telling, isn't it? These folks think nothing of having all white panels hour after hour, but when for 5 minutes they have 2 black people on at the same time, it's a phenomenon.

[goclark]

35. But the Bigot is still in charge of the conversation

I want to see the youtube video where Rangel etc. refused to continue the conversation with one of the Dragons.

Anyone have the link?

[indimuse]

24. so.

and?

[BigDDem]

29. As I recall EffieBlack was a big fan of "Reverend" Wright

How do you feel about Obama's rejection of him?

[EffieBlack]

48. i have long admired Rev. Wright and also think Obama

was right to denounce him when and how he did.

So, what's your point? And what does that have to do with Buchanan's comment?

[BigDDem]

59. I just think it's funny and predictable that "Wright is right"

oh and also he's "divisive" "destructive" and "ridiculous" all at the same time.

[EffieBlack]

64. It's unfortunate that you have difficulty reconciling complex concepts

But someone can be right about most things while being wrong about others without being divisive, destructive and ridiculous. And someone can also be right about most things, wrong about others AND reach a point of being divisive, destructive and ridiculous. And since divisive, destructive and ridiculous are relative, subjective terms, different people can have different opinions about when someone reaches that point.

So you might find it "funny and predictable" - I call it part of the complicated dynamics of human beings.

Sort of like how some DUer's think that Pat Buchanan is wrong most of the time and is at the same time a divisive, destructive and ridiculous person, while other DUers seem to think he's just fine.

[BigDDem]

65. But originally you were defending all those remarks

now they're divisive, destructive and ridiculous?
Why the change of heart?

[EffieBlack]

72. *I* never said the remarks were "divisive, destructive and ridiculous"

so I have had no "change of heart" about what he said, notwithstanding your mischaracterization of my opinions and observations.

As I said, perhaps you're having trouble understanding the complexities of my points - that may explain your attempts to grossly oversimplify what I have said.

[BigDDem]

80. Nice dodge, you're all over the map on this one.

So, do you think the federal govt invented HIV to wipe out blacks?
Or is that "ridiculous?"

[kwassa]

86. uh, she didn't duck you .... you now attempt a diversion.

Just saying.

[EffieBlack]

87. I neither believe that the government did this

nor that it is "ridiculous" for someone of Rev. Wright's age and experience to think that it did.

You see, unlike you, I do not assume that the views of anyone who sees things differently than I do are ridiculous nor do I feel the need to attack, denounce, or get up and storm out whenever I hear them say something that I don't agree with.

There is a point at which I draw the line - for example, Pat Buchanan. Apparently your perception of what is offensive differs significantly from mine, given your tolerance of Pat Buchanan contrasted with your obsession with Jeremiah Wright.

To each his own.

[BigDDem]

89. I guess that makes your guy wrong, he thinks its "ridiculous"

By the way, I could care less what Pat B says.
I dont pay any attention to him, to me he's like the male
version of Ann Coulter.
I think it's a waste of time to get worked up over him but
hey, that's just me!

[EffieBlack]

90. No it doesn't. You're really having trouble understanding the

concept aren't you?

"Ridiculous" is a subjective term, not an objective fact. It is quite possible for me to think something is ridiculous while someone else does not, and vice versa. That does not make either of us "wrong" - unless you live in a white/black, up/down, kneejerk reactionionary, George Bush "my-way-or-the-highway-yer-either-wid-me-or-agin-me" universe.

But it is interesting that you're so blase about Pat Buchanan, who has run for president and spews offensive comments almost daily from a 24-7 national platform yet you are absolutely obsessed with Jeremiah Wright who has done neither to the point of trying to hikack a thread about Buchanan with an utterly irrelavant diatribe concernng MY views about Wright.

But, as I said, to each his own.

[NashVegas]

30. Heaven Forbid Anyone Bring Up a Famous Hall Associated With the Best of Black Culture in America

And insinuate Wright will be tested there. When are you going to stop trying to have it both ways, Effie?

[ellacott]

36. Wow

[Hepburn]

39. I cannot believe I just read on the DU what you posted.

:wow: Now it is clear why you support Hilly.

[NashVegas]

41. Yeah, I Support Hillary

Because it seems that 1/2 of Obama's campaigners cynically throw around false charges of racism like Frisbees, while the other half revels in their own ignorance (see the posts about the Opry).

[Hepburn]

43. So you are defending Pat Buchanan now?

All I can say to that is: WOW! :wow:

How low some of us have sunk that Scaife, Murdock and Buchanan and OK in thier books.

Maybe you would be happier in a different party ~~ just a thougth.

[NashVegas]

49. I Like To Think of It As More Like

Calling bullshit on someone who constantly throws around charges of racism not because it's actually so, but because it suits them.

[Hepburn]

52. So, someone falsely said Pat Buchanan is a racist?!?!?!?!

Since when did Pat give up his white sheet and pointed hood?

:eyes:

[uponit7771]

54. HRC supporters are going crazy, just damn crazy

[Hepburn]

57. Well, I must agree with that sentiment...

...to defend Pat Buchanan as NOT being a racist is unbelievable.

[NashVegas]

73. Does Pat Own a Klan Costume? I Had No Idea

You have pics?

[Leopolds Ghost]

63. It was clear already. Mainstream lliberal racism allows Hillary to flourish. "Liberal=white" to them

Thats why they go on about "blacks and liberals".

[TexasObserver]

31. Pat Buchanan = Grand Old Opry

or maybe Hee Haw

[NatBurner]

33. more like "birth of a nation"

i loved hee haw

[TexasObserver]

45. Indeed!

Yeah, Hee Haw did have its moments.

"I'm pickin!"

"And I'm grinnin'!"

[NatBurner]

50. gloom, despair, and agony on me

whooooah!

i used to watch hee haw and the dolly parton show every week- right after soul train lol

what some of these very same people in this thread fail to realize? they have more in common with Black people than they think-

if they would focus more on our commonalities, they'd realize that WE ARE NOT THE ENEMY

i'd bet their kids have some public enemy and ice cube on their ipods though, so i still have hope for the future

[NashVegas]

34. Say Hello to the First Grand Old Opry Star - Deford Bailey

http://netowne.com/deford/index.htm

[Hepburn]

37. Holy fucking shit....

...he is such a racist pig. :puke:

[npincus]

40. that stupid fuck ought to come out of his KKKloset already.

[TragedyandHope]

42. Stay Strong

It's just going to get worse and worse as we go into the General Election. The Rethugs are desperate and are going to pull out all the stops this time.

Nothing worthwhile is ever easy. Once Obama and America make it through the coming firestorm, we will have earned a mandate to make truly positive changes in this country.

[Texas Hill Country]

44. context?

[NJSecularist]

46. And? What's your point?

More "woe is me" victimhood from the Obamites?

[uponit7771]

55. No, just more evidence some people accept racism because it really doesn't affect them

[casus belli]

51. Why is this filth still given air time?

It's time this man's voice be given no audience.

[EFerrari]

56. That's what I told them the last time I emailed the show.

They don't deserve an audience.

[ShortnFiery]

58. Pat Buchanan and Joe Scarborough don't even cover much for their racism anymore.

They're OUT THERE leading the choir ... To: The racist white rural areas.

"Morning Joe" to keep it ultra-real and use the theme song for "The Dukes of Hazard" as their bumper music. :puke:


Neither Buchanan nor Scarborough should be permitted to spread their thinly-veiled "racist FILTH" on national television. The only people of color on SERVE only in subservient roles. :thumbsdown:

[crankychatter]

60. is this his "Imus" moment? Can he go away now? n/t

:-) hoping

[OnceUponTimeOnTheNet]

62. It will be interesting to see how much coverage the Election gets. once Hillary suspends.

Morning Joe will then try his very best to avoid mentioning the General Election on his shows.
~just a hunch here.

[City Lights]

66. I sent Keith an email nominating Pat for Worst Person honors.

:evilgrin:

...and suggested he peruse M$NBC's transcripts for other examples. :-)

[hell-bent]

68. Yes, I am sure KO has the gonads to attack a fellow

MSGOP employee. Buchanan might take him to the woodshed for a smack-down.

[Clark2008]

79. "Fellow" MSGOP employee?

I hardly think KO is Republican (actually, he says he doesn't vote; therefore, he isn't of either party), but I have seen KO take down other MSNBC employees when they were being stupid.

[4_Legs_Good]

70. Buchanon is an evil, evil man. nt

[still_one]

75. why does the msm give buchanan, beck and other racist fowl individuals airtime?

I have to assume when beck makes his anti-Muslim statements, anti-women statements, and buchanan makes his anti-Jewish, and anti-black statements, the networks must share those ideas

If this was the 30's and there was television, I have no doubt that they would give hitler a show of his own

Freedom of speech is one thing, but having individuals that promote hate on OUR public airwaves somehow doesn't sit right with me

[knixphan]

77. totally agreed.

And I volunteer to take Pat outside for a public smackdown on behalf of intelligent folks everywhere.

[NatBurner]

83. don't forget lou dobbs- he hates mexicans

[still_one]

88. not just Mexicans /nt

[knixphan]

78. These little men

Are so afraid of Barack Obama.

They can barely disguise their fear.

Hill is their last defense before Barack destroys McBush in the GE!

[Carrieyazel]

82. Is Showtime at the Apollo still on the air with new episodes?

I wonder if Buchanan's ever seen it. Good show.

[Forkboy]

84. And predictably some assholes here defend him.

:freak: