Clinton internals show possible 15% NC defeat, according to Drudge

[nonobadfish]

I know, I know, it's drudgereport, and it may simply be expectation lowering by the Clinton campaign. But it's interesting (if taken with a grain of salt). I don't think it will be that high, but hopefully it's at least a good sign.

www.drudgereport.com

[powergirl]

1. Sometimes you have to take a peek over at the dark side

It's like me looking at Fox "News" from time to time. You just can't help it!

[nonobadfish]

3. Keep your enemies close!

[Triana]

2. But - it won't count! NC doesn't count!

ANY state Hillary didn't win DOESN'T count!

:sarcasm:

[Tarheel_Dem]

25. She just said as much on Tom Joyner's Morning Show....

I've won the big states that we have to win in Nov. Obama's won states that we're never gonna win, or something to that effect. :puke:

Tom is an Obama supporter, but he has Hillary on quite often (too often), and I think he's covering his bases. Tom likes being invited to high falutin' functions, so he can brag about it on his show.

[Leopolds Ghost]

33. Hillary: "NC is a state that Dems are NEVER gonna win"

[alcibiades_mystery]

4. Clinton camp leaking fake numbers to make an 8 point loss look like an upset

Rovian shite at its purist.

It's a wonder anyone can tolerate such antics after 8 years of Bush, but the Hillarians seem to lap it up like champagne.

[nonobadfish]

10. An 8 point Obama victory is ok by me! You are right. Does the rest of the world see how Hillary has

changed? I told my husband last night that she has turned to Rove politics so completely that I am amazed the media (and all of Washington) is not screaming about it at the top of their lungs.

[SoxFan]

18. DING DING DING

We have a winner!

[MadBadger]

5. Those leaked internals were spot on in PA

[SteelPenguin]

6. They'll downplay NC as a state they won't win in the General

Indiana however they'll claim is an important showing of her electibility in a state....she...won't...win in the...general...uh...

[Kittycat]

7. I"m pretty sure that is what she's starting the day off with, due to

early voting. I read something yesterday that there was a likely 16% loss for her to make up right off the bat, due to that. She could still bring it close - so we shouldn't take anything for granted.

[malik flavors]

8. Drudge's report of Clinton internals predicting an 11 point win in PA was actually legit.

So this might be true. Zogby showed Obama up by 14 last night in North Carolina.

[NotThisTime]

15. But she won by 9.4, not quite 11, but I'd take any Obama win even by one vote

[grantcart]

20. yeah but it doesn't mean thtat he misreported the the internals

I hate the guy but he has a lot of scoops - makes the MSM look lazy

[DemsUnited]

23. Yup. Remeber on Pennsylvania primary afternoon when Drudge leaked exit polls

showing Obama losing only by 4? That helped Clinton win the expectations game huge when she won PA by 9.2 which according to all this new math rounds up to 10.

[AllentownJake]

24. The exit polls were right

Obama supporters are more willing to talk about their vote Clinton supporters aren't and people lie.

[NightWatcher]

9. drudge is only quoting Zogby

http://rawstory.com/news/2008/Poll_Obama_holds_14point_North_Carolina_0506.html

Indiana is neck and neck in the final Zogby poll before the primaries. North Carolina appears solidly in Barack Obama's camp.

"The pair of surveys of the Democratic presidential contests shows Obama with a significant 14-point lead in North Carolina, winning 51% support to Hillary Clinton’s 37%," Zogby writes. "Another 12% said they were either favoring someone else or were as yet undecided. In Indiana, the race is clear as mud, as Obama holds a statistically insignificant lead of two points, winning 45% support to Clinton’s 43% support, with 12% either undecided or favoring someone else."

[mckeown1128]

11. I'm sure the media will spend all night asking...

why Hillary couldn't close the deal in North Carolina :sarcasm:

[liberaldem4ever]

12. Sometimes I think that if people see

that their candidate is far enough ahead and they are busy on the day of the election, they won't bother to vote for that candidate, since they think that the person will win anyway.

[reflection]

13. Meh.

Like you say, sounds like they might be prepping for a "victory" speech if they lose by less than 15, or win. I'll wait for the actual results.

[SaveOurDemocracy]

14. Where are all the hysterical screams about linking

a RW source?? You guys are too funny, in a not so funny way.

[WeDidIt]

16. Clinton campaign scrambling to lower expectations

when it comes in as a 12 point loss, they cna claim victory.

Moving those goal posts, always moving those goal posts.

[maddiejoan]

17. Drudge?

uhm


okay.

:eyes:

[iamthebandfanman]

19. ive got a secret for you... IT DOESNT MATTER!

the race has been over for what, a month now ?

just because she doesnt accept it, doesnt make it so.

[RUMMYisFROSTED]

22. 2 months. nt

[DU9598]

28. Bingo

You and I think alike ... it is already over, she just has not yet conceded.

[JVS]

30. I kind of agree, but we need a "death blow" and this could be it.

[iamthebandfanman]

31. nah, thats what they want you to think thats needed

so they can stay in the media and have headlines so at the end they can try to come up with some justification for keeping it going so long...

the media goes with it cause... well its potential ratings... and thats potential money ;)

[DemsUnited]

21. Mark Halperin of Time Mags The Page calls this ham-handed "leak"

http://thepage.time.com/2008/05/06/oh-the-expectations-they%e2%80%99ll-set-2/

Oh, the Expectations They’ll Set!
Tuesday, May 6th, 2008



Matt Drudge is the beneficiary of a ham-handed “leak” about Clinton aides “believing” she will be blown out in North Carolina.


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Don't fall for it. 5 - 10 win for Obama in NC after two terrible months.

[habitual]

26. wow, fudge doesn't even hide his motives anymore, inserts reason for article

into article itself.....

Let's go to the videotape (er, article):

"Her team will work hard throughout the day to lower all expectations in North Carolina. "

thanx Fudge!!! lower away, and when she loses by less than 15% that's a Clinton Victory right???

i bet by the end of today we'll be hearing it'll prolly be a 20% point blowout so they can spin the 15% as a win.....

[BeyondGeography]

27. I'm inclined to say bull, but he said their internals showed an 11-point win in PA

(Oops, noted above.)

[madrchsod]

29. it`s drudge nothing more needs to be printed

[nyccitizen]

32. They are lowering expectations...

Internals probably show a 5-10 point loss, so they are lowering expectations. If people expect a blowout but she only loses by double digits, they'll spin it as a huge victory.